just a little background:

I'm a male and a high school senior. 17. never had a girlfriend before or
any sort of real flings/hook ups/ even a first kiss. evidently Im
not a weirdo or socially awk. a lot of people including girls compliment me for the way I dress. long story short no one at my hs caught my eyes. in the 11th grade I noticed this girl but when I asked around everyone said how she was super popular and a lot of guys try to get at her all the time. well I'm on break right now and she moved schools so I havent seen her since the end of 11th. she walked into the store I was shopping into and to my surprise said hi to me. I didn't think she would even remember me. I feel like I have nothing to lose and messaging her on Facebook. at the same
time I feel like people will judge me and think I'm a loser if she talks to people about it. should I message her and if I do what should it go like?


I've also talked to her for a total of 5 minutes probably when she did go to my school, she wasn't in any of my classes and I tend to be a pussy when it comes down to it even though I act like I'm not
 

hey man, what you say is unimportant, unless someone can give you a specific way to try to act for 1-2 days with sex having to occur within that timeline, it is not about what you say, it is about what you are

if you are a good looking, cool guy that is good with girls, has alot of friends and strives for success in life, that is what you are, it will shine through in the end, and that is the kind of guy you will present to a girl

if you are a physically unappealing, needy, socially retarded, guy that will amount to nothing, in the end that is what will shine through, you can only hide who you are for so long, what you say and do will sub-communicate who you really are and your real personality will shine through and if you are trying to be something you are not girls will notice the incongruence

pickup is about improving yourself, and becoming something better then what you are now, not learning to say 1 or 2 things and WAAALAA getting more ass then an asstray cause of those 2 things you got taught to say, it is a process not a magic pill

message that girl on facebook, you have nothing to lose only something to gain, WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK, this is your life and every new day is just another tick in the clock of life, and you are slowly reaching the moment that the clock stops, go out there and talk to the girls you like, try new things, ''field test'' them, see what brings you some success and what brings you failure, there is no magic thing to do, only improvement and getting to become a better person in general, stop over thinking specific actions and just go out and attempt to get laid,

you will display yourself congruently as what you think you are, improve yourself and hopefully within a period of time working on yourself, you will see yourself as an amazing person, and have the confidence to project that person to everyone you meet attracting alot of great people into your life

GOOD LUCK

ended up messaging her not knowing what the fuck to do. used one of the opener lines on here and it began ok and within a couple messages tried to close in for a # and she stopped replying. now I just feel creepy and really stupid. fml. just never works out for me

there you go, it started ok, next time try to improve on what happened just keep practicing and don't give up

past doesn't matter. The present, however, does.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

both of you guys are right but I was very deadest on this girl, she's beautiful in a way I havent seen other girls before and I just effed up my one opportunity and ruined my rep with her

all in your head, get used to the fact that it doesn't work like that, a girl knows usually in 30 seconds if she would sleep with you or not, ''game'' is mostly about not cock blocking yourself, and putting yourself in a situation for sex to occur as soon as possible, before you have a chance to cock block yourself, live and learn, the mistakes you make now might turn out to be victories later, don't worry about what could have been, or what might happen, just go try to meet girls, and go try to have sex with them, there is no magical way to get all the girls you ever meet without rejection, even the best pua I have ever met gets more rejections then lays, but the thing is, is he doesn't care about being rejected anymore, and people tend to forget the time 5 girls in a row ignored him at the club, when he has a new hottie every week, but the thing is, he goes out 5 nights a week and does alot of approaches and alot of closing, this is what separates the good guys from the afcs, being afraid to approach and being afraid of rejection, the more you step outside the comfort zone, the better you will become at not cock blocking yourself and noticing when a girl is a waste of time

ok so this girl basically rejected me. fuck it. where do I go from here? isn't HS unapplicable to all the "game" tactics. how do I make myself attractive to girls..

here are some things you could work on

-go to the gym get more fit

-improve your style

-work on your vocal projection and tonality (more pronounced, lower tone more smooth voice)

-improve your posture, stand up straight and tall with your chest out and shoulders back

-work on being your own person, not the sidekick reacting to everyone in social interactions, you don't have to take this to extremes just work on leading interactions instead of being the social leach bring some of your own conversation topics and ideas to the table and make things fun for yourself and others

-work on your education to better yourself career wise, a good job leads to more money, and more money leads to a more attractive lifestyle not to mention the money to go out and do things and wear nicer clothes

-work on not judging people as much

-find some hobbies in life, and set some goals have some ambition

-work on not being needy or emotionally reactive

-work on your confidence and abundance mind frame, being able to start conversations with new people every day until you get enjoyment out of socializing in general with both men and women of whom you have never met before in your life, constantly be trying to bring new people into your life and expand your social network, more people you know, the more stuff you can do, and the more new opportunities you have for fun and new women

-play with levels of dominance inside of social interactions, experiment with being more or less dominant and find your own sweet spot

-imagine your ideal of a perfect guy who is attractive, strive to become that guy


as for highschool and pua, pua is applicable to highschool, but you have to realize that you have a status that has been set amoung your peers, girls want the top 10% of guys, if you want to see some good levels of success be amoung that top 10% and you will see some results, often popularity is valued highly in a school setting, you have that group of ''cool kids'' that seems to get girls, but there will be a different neiche for different girls and allways a guy from each clique that can land girls, the rap kids, the rock kids, the band geeks, the emo kids, there will always be a level of status assigned to a the groups that you roll with, different girls will rank them differently and their value will be subjective, your looks matter as well as your status within that social group as well as the importance of the social group itself, point being, be the most important guy in a social group that is important, and you can easily gain compliance from girls that want to be assosiated with that level of status, in short, be popular get girls

Don't be hard on yourself. Well, be hard, but just so long as it's on someone else:P

Listen, don't focus on all you did wrong, look at what you did right too. The so-called pickup game doesn't guarantee that you'll score every woman that comes your way, it merely improves your probability of getting with them - nothing is guaranteed in life. I'm in my 30s, and I can tell you that nothing in life ever worth having came easy. YOU need to make things happen, YOU need to take initiative - that's what'll separate you from all the other schmoes around you who spend their lives wishing they had certain things but always shortchanging themselves into thinking they can't ever catch a break. GO OUT THERE AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN! You tried that with this girl, it didn't work but guess what in life you take risks and break a few eggs in the process. What'll determine your success ultimately is how quickly you get back up and keep moving forward.

Also, keep in mind a lot of the times it's not pickup methods in themselves that get you the girl, but rather the illusion of being able to get with most women that builds your confidence and pushes you to approach. In other words, often it's the simple fact that you're approaching girls more often, not the techniques and methods themselves, that's improving your odds (and game).

So now what? Well for one don't personalize things much. It may be that she's just not receptive to any sort of a relationship right now (maybe she just got out of one, or thinks all men suck, or is focusing on other things in her life). Suck it up, learn, and move forward. There will always be something better that comes along. I speak the truth.

yeah I definately understand what your saying but its so scary...thinking about the future and college. the thought that nothing worked up until now makes me feel scared, like what if this continues into the future and i can never get the girls that I want

Felt like that a lot when I was younger..."fuck i ruined my 1 shot with this perfect girl!!"

Lol...

the first reaction is to be down about it...

start reading bud...books to "change your thinking" "improve your life" "PUA" books.
things will start clicking and you will become very powerful by the time you get into college.

talk to people on these forums and try to make friends with them...people who are constantly going out in the field and approaching girls with success.

LEARN LEARN LEARN!!!
in no time you will be an unstoppable beast!

can you recommend anything to read?

the first book i ever read regarding PUA was "the game" - by neil strauss...

it's this man who went from "nerdy computer programmer" to sleeping with models.

great book to get you motivated.

anything by David DeAngelo is a great place to start

or even "how to win friends and influence people"

you may feel some of these books are catered to older men but if you're intelligent, which you seem like you are...you can apply these concepts to your life right now!

this might be a little offtopic but I'm a fan of the TV series Californication...and if you've watched it you know that the protagonist Hank Moody is very smooth with woman. Is there anything we can apply from the way he articulates, constructs conversation, or his general demeanor