I have recently started sarging.
I am able to use indirect openers and converse with topics like where you bought that purse etc. I am able to talk for 2-5 mins, give them smile, some revert back, then I give them some compliments to show intent, after that I have been able to get a number but not go further.

So till now what I have found that I have quite less ammunition to work with. I need advice on 2 counts:
1. For increasing the ammunition I have tried products like make small talk sexier, NLP, seduction game - is that fine ?
2. I thought of a new approach and it puts less pressure on me.
I try to qualify the women from word go. So all the time I am calibrating the women. I have seen this work to some extent and depends on your confidence levels. Again when I run out of ammunition even for a moment the brilliant chemistry takes a dip, I am able to rework but still not close. Is this a correct approach. ?

You should gauge it based on the rapport you've built. If you feel you've got enough rapport you can try getting an instant date (I'm assuming your in a mall/shopping area where an instant date would be probable).

You should also signal intent by using kino during your game. You mentioned the NLP stuff, this can be great for escalating and making her want to follow-up on the #close (if thats the case). Be careful with the NLP stuff because, in my opinion, it requires a certain level of rapport/comfort to discuss.


Also, try using a direct opener possibly. If its daygame, this can catch them off-guard, also signals intent from the get-go, creates an emotional spike, and shows confidence/DHV (in a way). From here you can do your usual bit, and try for an instant-date or whatever. Chances of flaking are also reduced using this method (at least I've found in my personal experience, its not guaranteed).

Definitely do not let the chemistry dip, this creates awkward tension that you don't want. When you guys have chemistry and are communicating - she's not 'thinking' (so to speak), but once you have that awkward she starts to think wtf?
So always have something to say. Seems like pressure but its just the way it works lol.

Hi amatpua,

when you start with indirect openers, you are lacking to show interest in the other person which makes for a real connection. At some point while doing indirect, you need to be direct, and according to me, a bit more then 'showing intent by giving some compliments'. Regular compliments are meaningless and also a bit ambiguous about your intent.

By saying: i really like your hair, what intent are you projecting? Are you really in to her of do you just wanna fuck her? More importantly, do you really like her hair or do you have some other intent? Its not straightforward enough.

A better example, in its 'canned form': hey, i think you are pretty AND i see you are *insert charateristic you discovered about her* person. Lets go for a drink (either now or some other time).

so suppose she laughs with your jokes, you could say: hey, i think you are gorgeous and i see you are somebody with a nice sense of humor. Lets go for a drink.

You already got a 'no', and a 'yes' you can get. If she doesnt want to, she doesnt want to. NEXT!!! smile, say 'aah, too bad. well, have a nice day!' and walk away.

About qualifying: qualifying is good. you should start with it from the beginning of the interaction, but take it easy with the qualifying. This is not the medieval Inquisition, she is not an 'infidel' (well, she might be, but its not important). its important to convey to her that you dont just hang around with anybody, and if you are looking for a ltr, its important for you because you can figure out if she has what it takes to be with you. But again, take it easy with qualifying. If you overdo, you are just not a fun guy to talk with. You are not letting enough opening for a good and genuine conversation, you are not really interested in what she does have to offer.

One more tip of advice: stop your search for ammunition. You dont want all this ammunition as in the extreme it will result in meaningless empty conversations, where you walk around the bush and hope that eventually she will give a signal that you cannot misunderstand so you feel comfortable enough to take it to the next step. That signal will never come as clear as you want it to, because you will always doubt if that was the signal.

What i am trying to say is: grow a pair, have to guts to take more initiative. Go kno, have the guts to amp it up. State what you want, have the guts to amp it up. Amp up the ante in the interaction. She doesnt want to follow? Game over for her.
NEEEXT!!

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