God, I have so many questions...how can I narrow it down....

Is there any way you can drive down your whole approach from approach to sex?

Like...do you approach random women, or are most of your lays from your social circle?

What is your favorite way to open a random woman?
How do you get get her attracted?
How do you get her on a second date, what do you do to keep her from doing what chicks like to do (which is act like you never existed, even when you contact them)
How do you turn things sexual on the second meeting?

Hey Awe, thanks for writing.

Generally It all depends on the woman, if she was incredibly satifying, i tend to sleep with them again.( but usually only 3x's max) I tend to stay in touch with them while hinting that it is only a casual thing. I find if you are open and upfront at first and say that my intentions are not do get serious, most women will respect that.

I do however run into a lot of women wanting more, this can be difficult. I am older now and tend to not be able to "play" them like i used to.

In the past I would just basically ignore them till they stopped messaging me, but now i tend to be more honest and upfront.

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Hey there, I just want to start with, there is no "set" technique or approach. This is the biggest misconception when it comes to the art of seduction. Every woman( situation) is different. I act solely on the reads I am getting from a woman. I tend to only approach women that give me some sort of sense of attraction.

Women will tell you a lot with their body language and words. I will approach random women from time to time, but i usually use a technique i call "zero rejection factor"

This technique is applied to eliminate any potential rejections. What i will do ( in any situation...ie bar/club/grocery store/library...park etc.) I will create eye contact by either walking right into them or walking by them, ensuring eye contact , then gesturing with a smile or something. I will then move just slightly out of their direct line of site( staying within their peripheral vision)

As I move slightly more out of their line of site, i am watching them, looking for any conscious or unconscious gesture towards me. ie- a look over, as in where is he going. ( women tend to check out men ONLY when they know they are not looking at them, by staying slightly out of their direct line of site, you can catch them trying to sneak a peek) If i get the appropriate glance/gesture...I will then repeat the process and move to another spot. After successfully doing this 3 times, I will then approach knowing there was some sort of interest or attraction.

This leaves me without any approach anxiety or fear and allows me to approach with confidence. The rest will be totally up to the woman. I will be polite in my approach and try to engage her in conversation.

Here is the thing, not every woman is going to be interested in you. A true Pick up artist knows this and will deal with the situation accordingly. If you remain polite throughout your attempt, and read the body language and words of the woman, you can eliminate any potential embarrassment.

You want to keep it friendly and wait for the signs, if you come on strong at first odds are you will get a strong defensive response.

Basic positive signs include: her giving you complete eye contact as you speak.
laughter and smiling
subtle touches, arm, hand, leg
head tilting
body facing you

Basic negative signs include: looking away as speak/ or during silence
arms crossed
feet pointed away from you
short answers

These are some of the things you look for before attempting the actual seduction.

Generally if you are getting more negative tells then positive, it is wise to keep it short /sweet and move on.

By using this technique it allows you to get out of there fast while still not getting physically rejected. ( allowing your confidence to remain intact)

If all signs are positive, then work your magic, be funny, be witty, the best of it all is you will be confident and confidence is half the battle.

I found this method to be very useful in helping me maintain a high level of confidence.

But like I said before, there is no magic technique/method for every woman, that is pure BS. Learn how to read a woman's body language and verbal signs and you will be on your way to becoming a PUA.


I hope this helps.

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please teach me lol im 22 and ive only had 1 relationship,tbh most of the time when i aproach girls they are always seing somebody

The women that you approach, are they telling you they are seeing someone or are you asking them first?


Women tend to be a little bit defensive by nature, the hotter they are the more likely they are to have a lot of random men approaching. That being said, if you give them an option to be defensive or evasive at first meeting, their is a greater chance they will just say "yes" they are seeing someone. ( buzz kill)

Do NOT bring it up until you have established some kind of rapport, if you are just trying to get laid (women cheat too) they may not want you to know, but if you ask....


It all comes down to the signals you receive and your ability to read them.


Fortune favors the bold.

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sex addict..

i had many relationships and most were with woman who were unhealthy... Fucking just bores me - i don't care about that...if im fucking someone i fell empty - i want a relationship..after a while i start caring anyway because i just really genuinely care about people. Problem is that i had bad relationships... my game is fine , it's indifferent , sexual and unpredictable '' natural ''...i know my inner game issues as well - im solving most of them and some of them i just accept because it's just a part of me...

anyway i keep burning my fingers in dating or relationships... i do not approach alot of woman.. im like one hit one kill - i go after woman i want and 8 out of 10 times im able to get them or at least im able to spark attraction. Woman i go after are older woman or divorced woman in general Older woman are more different and manipulative.. but im also more attracted to them because they are more challenge and they have more life experience... most 20 year old woman just bore me - i sometimes stare at their tits or ass but im not really attracted to those woman.

1. even tho i keep improving inner game im not getting the fulfilling relationships that i really want...i reflect on everything just to look where my issues are...but somehow i keep getting the thought it's because the type of girls im dating...i don't want to blame other people because putting blame on someone else is SPAM control ..

2. even tho i keep improving external game im not getting the fullfilling relationships i want..

3. Im more emotional than most people .. i feel my emotions or emotions of other people very strong.. my main power is social intelligence and emotional intelligence but this also backfires when things are getting too much on long term. This is not only psychological.. it's biological i am HSP.. ( high sensitive person, it's really hard to deal with in daily life )

4. even tho i want sex and i feel the natural urge to have sex it does not fullfill me when i do it...

5. i feel like zero motivation to find a woman that i really like... i have been fucked up in 5 relationships , i have walked away out of relationships, i have met many woman all different kind of age or social status, married woman and single woman... i feel like they are all the same. it's like blablabla this and that and i fuck them or pick them up... married woman hit on me... woman with boyfriend are attracted to me.. i don't trust woman and when i do i always get fucked over..

my own conclusion is that im fullfilling my needs in a wrong way and im not getting what i really need...i have trouble finding really good healthy woman who i really can trust...

I got into game because i got fucked over by a woman in a relationship...and i wanted to got a new girlfriend so i got really good by sarging solo and trying everything out... however after a while i noticed that i was just trying to find someone with who i can relate - someone who understands me because i feel lonely in general, because all my previous relationships and most friendships did not fullfill me or i gave more than i received... I do have boundaries and i have walked away from people... but really high boundaries also prevented me from making alot of contact with people....

what is you 5 cents on this with your life experience?

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Hey there, Well from reading your words and looking as an outside observer, I can right away see that your past relationships have affected you deeply. I too am a HSP, it tends to work in our favor when it comes to being social or feeling peoples vibe, however it can also be a damper when it comes to "women of interest"

You seem to be a well spoken and intelligent man, but it seems as though you may still be clouded by your past and bad experiences with women. I am sensing a type of tunnel vision which can be hard to get away from ( especially if you are getting older in years)

It is hard to get away from ones past, but you must find a way to look and push forward, especially when it comes to women. I also think you may be putting too much expectation on prospective women and maybe too quick to pass judgement. ( i have done this a lot in the past)

Everyone has an Ideal or dream of the perfect mate, but if you talk with people truly in love and that have had long lasting relationships, you will see that most of them were not each others painted picture. What got them there was a bond of friendship and trust.

This may sound cliche, but I think it would be in your best interest when it comes to finding relationship type woman. that you start off as friends and that to be your only intention. This will allow you to better get to know the real woman, rather then one that may be just reacting to your sensitivities and unconscious disdain. It will also allow you to show your true self without worry of how it may be looked upon, without the pressures of dating, a woman tends to be more open minded and understanding ( this is only when seeking more then just a fling, any thing else is business as usual)

It is my opinion that you may be unconsciously sabotaging prospective relations with women based on the tunnel vision and perhaps some small ( manageable) insecurities. So if you can eliminate your thoughts and sensitivities by only seeing them as people and not women ( by being FRIENDS ONLY) there is a good chance you may be able to re-establish your faith and trust in the anomaly that we call women.

I hope this helps you, please remember this is only my opinion, i could be way off about you, but I have had a long battle with similar issues, and it is slowly coming together based on some deep friendships i have established lately with women. It's still hard as hell for me to not revert back to my old ways, especially when they are HOT! but i find the more i stay strong, the stronger i become.

P.S. Do not be so quick to judge the younger women, I have met some truly amazing 20-25 yr old women with seriously old souls. In this day of information and globalization, their is some truly fascinating and informed younger women.

Good luck my friend.

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I have the confidence but i dont have good openers, what is a good opener to use on a woman who wouldnt wanna talk to a pick up artist like at a cultural festival? dont ask why just know thats what im stuck with lol

also i have genuine curiosity of the woman so i can keep a convo going i know approach and presentation is everything so im wondering what some good openers are

What kind of festival, what culture? Yes it needs to be specific as cultures tend to vary and be very specific within themselves.

The only type of opener that can stand true within any culture is a compliment, especially if you can tell a woman put a lot of effort into looking good, be sure to compliment them on that, it will get you in the door.

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Sexaddict can you help me please?

First off I'm 17 in high school. I'm Indian but good looking about 5'6 muscular but bulky trying to get ripped. I grew up in a very strict household. I wasn't allowed to have friends till I could drive about 8 months ago. In that time period I learned alot more about myself I'm very social VERY. I'm grounded right now till I'm 18 which is about 2 months away. I've been in the pua community since 2009 since I had strict parents I really could not practice it. I've never kissed a girl before. I've always made posts on here trying to get help but now I'm explaining my whole story. My parents are very religious but they are part of a cult, this has made me paranoid and a very nervous person. It bothers me that they are so strict and since I can't go out I can't make pua advancements right now. Since I was raised this way it's affected me alot I don't celebrate holidays and it gets me loney. Also it has made me quit alot of things like I can't finish certain self help books because I can read but I never apply it. I feel trapped so to say.


When I'm 18 I get a car and I will go to clubs to get better at game I read the attraction code and am reading 60 years of challenge. For now my brother recommended me reading Anthony Robbins and doing his personal 30 days to power program to show me I CAN GET WHATEVER I WANT. I know that when I'm 18 I"ll have alot more freedom I can do slot better because for college which I'm staying local my uncle is going to rent me an apartment. So I"ll have my own place.


My other goal is to dj I'm getting my dj equipment for my birthday. The reason I'm getting this stuff and apartment is because of my uncle he knows what my family is like and wants me to get out of this environment. If I dj I know my social value will increase and I"ll be meeting tons of new people.

I know that once I'm 18 I"ll be less paranoid cause of my family but I"ll still have to work on it.

Getting on to the next part ( I'm going to tell you this story please don't critique me and say move on just help me I know it's going to be hard and a long process but this quote makes me belive in anything “You can have anything you want if you will give up the belief that you can't have it.”). So back in April I made friends with these kids that I am still friends with. They have a sister that's 2 years younger than me she's taller by about 2-3 inches but hates being tall. We"ll call her M. She likes to party and club and talk to alot of guys but she's pruded she hasn't gone past hooking up that's why her boyfriend of a year dumped her. Now you see I used to joke around with her brothers and say she scares me causes shes tall. After that she would always say to me even though I didn't know her "why do I scare you". She would yell my name. When I'd go to there house shed wait for me with her brothers sometimes. Shed want to hangout if invited her. But I was a pussy I disnt do anything about it. It got to the point where she messaged me when I was talking to her brother about girls and she seemed upset. Then my friend started taking to her and got her number but basically got friend zoned. Me M my friend and M's brother were eating dinner one day and M grabs my hand and says what would you do if I was dressed like that hooters girl I said I don't know lol I know I'm an afc. She then asked for my number I said idk if I want to give it to you jokingly. I'm very cocky a little to much. After that in the summer she still would talk to me. When school started she flirted with me in the hallway. She's a flirt with slot of guys but she was serious with me. Shed. Pull me aside to flirt something she doesn't do with other guys. I didn't make a move she lost attraction. But I still gave her attention so basically she could use me to make her feel better cause she knew I was scared. Some kid who I also knew told her that i was going to fuck and chuck her and she belived him for a little bit. I told her it wasn't true and we became friends. She stopped hugging me though cause she knew that I liked her but I was to afraid to make a move. I basically denied her. Now she met other guys shes the girl if you make out with her she"ll like you. She met this other guy that she apparently likes She didn't tell me her brother did. He's going to use her for sex. She knew I'm a complete AFC now. On Saturday I texted her " I don't want this to be akward but I like you more than a friend". 6 hours latter her response was " hey oh okay it's not gonna be akward" she told her brothers that I told her I liked her. On monday it was so akward cause everybody in our group of friends knew about it. She didn't say no to me but told her friends she only likes me as a friend. Since I sit next to her at lunch my friends in the other table were joking and made it akward. For me so I left for a little and came back. She was so akward around me she said hi and gave me food but if I said something to her she gave one word answers. Her brother called me the next day. He put her on the phone and she said hi and I said just put this thing past us she then said great and put her brother back on the phone. I friend zoned myself. I haven't been back to school cause my grandma died. I didn't really know her so it wasn't hard to deal with.

With my goals now getting ripped which should be completed in 3 months. Start leanring to dj. Get amazing with girls my goal is to have sex with 6 next year.
Do better in school. Get more friends expand my social circle. How do I break out of the friend zone with this girl? I know I have to freeze her out for a while and come back change amazing and show Im a sexual man. But how do I do this don't say it's not worth it for this girl. I know there are other girls out there that are BETTER but I have to do this to prove it to myself to know I have this capability. Because all my life people said I can't do this or that I'm tired of that shit. Please show me how to do this and get out of the friend zone. I know the process is going to take a year by freezing her out but I'm still willing to do it to prove to myself and everybody. If your going to say no please don't even comment. I'm trying to keep a positive state. Thanks.

I joined this site today and posted about a singles drinks in St. Pauls, London today and got 0 response! I want to see PUAs, experts in game in real-life action, is there no one from London??

Hey there, I would like to first start off by saying, your brother's suggestion to read "Anthony Robbins" is a great idea, he is truly a brilliant man, his books will help you in all aspects of life.

Due to your specific circumstances, it will be hard for you to do anything, but hopefully time will change these things.

The situation with "M" is kind of odd but still manageable. Stick you your plan of bettering yourself, Dj'ing is a great idea, get good at it.

Once you are able to be in social environments, i suggest you re-invent yourself. Become your DJ name....whatever it may be, make an alter ego of yourself. Make yourself, out going, and sexual.

When you talk to women, do it with confidence and mystique. If your interest in M is legit, you must go outside of your comfort zone and talk to as many girls as possible, the more attractive the better. ( even if you are just making friends with them, be sure to be seen with them as often as possible but make sure they are outside of your present social circle).

This will create a "new you" and your friends ( brothers of M) will certainly relay the message to M, this will give her a new found intrigue for you and take you out of the "friends zone".

Girls always want what they cannot have or what other girls want.

( Warning: do not try to make her jealous by talking about it to her, she will know enough from what her brothers tell her or what she see's herself)

Hopefully by the time this happens, you will have much more experience with talking to girls and not be as shy with her, be sure to be aggressive this time, not physically but progressively ( as in take her on a date, tell her she still has your interest, but so do other women and if she doesn't act now you may move on)

Do this with true diligence and I assure you, you will get the girl. She has already expressed interest for you in the past, she just needs to be reminded of how truly "cool" you really are.

Good luck my friend.


Fortune Favors the Bold.

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To see a real life PUA, either become one or learn to be observant. You do not have to see a man with a name tag saying "PUA" all you have to do is go to a social gathering and observe, you will certainly see at least one natural in action. Look for a very confident man, look for a man that looks like he doesn't care yet is looking for women, look for a man that is approaching different women and not being sent away instantly. Keep your eyes peeled and you will see a true PUA.

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Sex addict
Damn man that's so much I know this process with take mr a year or longer. M will be there for a while cause I'm friends with her bro. If I go after alot of girls and become amazing with girls become good at djing. Then she hears I changed and I'm different. Your saying I basiclly will get her? Thanks

Thanks for the reply - I didnt mean it that way, I had "Keys to the VIP" in my head where I can set a challenge, pick a target and let PUA do his thing, witness it live

Its one of those thing until/unless you expect a miracle & witness it yourself, its not a miracle. I have seen people including me in my group of friends succeed, get shot, burn - all sorts of results hence keen to see a true PUA, Guru demonstrate how its done