Wow...it's been a while. Half forgot about this, but mostly I just don't have time to post like I used to. Too busy with school/work. Not much has changed really since I posted last...actually if anything I've regressed. I can only really go out 1-2 times per week now. Work Friday nights and have to go back in early Saturday morning so Saturday night is all I really have. I try to go out on Mondays but most of my friends won't.

Oh...Oneitis from the last post is moving literally down the street from me. This kind of sucks. She sent me some text saying how she hopes me and her BF can get along so we can all hang out. Blah.

What I need to be doing is talking to girls on campus, but I'm not sure how to go about it. There is one specific one that's caught my eye. She's in two of my classes...same major, my type physically...so I'm looking to do something about that. Was actually planning on it the next couple days but logistical stuff prevented it.

I was initially going to go indirect. Since I needed to see a paper for class anyway, I was going to ask her cause I see her on campus pretty much every day. Didn't happen the last couple days though. I'm thinking I might just go semi-direct now. I don't want to use some bullshit excuse like asking her about homework. I'm not going to go super-direct either though. Sometime outside of class when I see her on campus, I was thinking just saying something like "we have two classes together don't we?"...blah blah..."well i kinda just wanted to meet you cause of that...you have good taste in classes, maybe you have good taste in other stuff"...then prob transition into talking about class/teachers/stuff we're reading, then branch out from there.

Oh and my old oneitis habits are already creeping back in with this one. I'm too focused on plotting of how to approach this one girl...I should be making approaches every day. I'm clueless on college game stuff though...as in cold approaches. It's different with social circle stuff, I'm just not sure regular Day game stuff would translate to a college campus. Any advice on this would be appreciated...

But if I see the girl from class tomorrow, I'm approaching. Practically every semester of college there have been girls in my class I've wanted to talk to and haven't, so my focus on this one specific girl is more of a matter of principle than actually being that invested in her specifically. I just want to do it because I never did before...this time it needs to be different.

Big party Saturday at that show/party venue I've mentioned in other posts. So I'm looking to be focused on branching out from my standard friends/acquaintances there and talking to everybody. I'll write again soon.

College game is easy, just get over your nerves and approach.

My go-to moves (if in a big lecture hall):

The RISHI system (Yes, I made this up because of the DENNIS system from always sunny):
1) Draw attention, I do this by retracting from myself. Walking down the aisle, stumble a little near her (drawing her attention and takes down her perception of you as a thread), and then you can quickly move to step two (initiate contact) and sit next to her.
2) Since you just stumbled its easy for you to initiate with her by saying something along the lines of "i hope noone saw that" jokingly.
3) Secure. This is done by continuing conversation. If the professor isn't there yet, I usually talk about the class, how much the professor sucks/rules, upcoming assignment, etc. Once class starts I usually ignore for a little bit, (around 15 mins in a 50 minute class), then I re-engage. If the lectures getting really boring then I'll draw a tic tac toe board in the corner of her notes, 100% of the time the girl will smile/laugh and play you. From there move into small notes. I like doing a "winner" with an arrow towards me or a "loser" with an arrow towards her.
4) 'Have your way with' -- Once class ends, (while packing up/leaving the classroom) move into real conversation. Start with a "BTW, didn't catch your name" .. once you have to part ways, ask her for her number if you're getting a good vibe, if you're getting an 'ehh' vibe I usually get the number with the pretense of doing homework together/incase we need anything (notes, test date, whatever). Then I become friends with her and fuck her friends
5) Incognito - If you don't friend zone her to get with her friends. Go incognito. This doesn't mean ignore her completely. Just give the bare minimum response and stop sitting next to her in class. Better yet, start talking to another girl in class on the other side of the lecture hall


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If it's a small class, its a similar system but execution changes...

1) Retract from self - Sit next to her and ask for a pencil or something, simple request but shows you aren't prepared in order to lower your threat/bring her guard down.
2) Initiate contact - Handled by the pencil request, but expand a little by asking if shes ready for the upcoming test or something.
3) Secure - My go to question is to ask if they are prepared for the test/exam. This is usually done with the exam like a week away so they are never prepared. I then ask them for their number to see if they want to study/hang out sometime (I choose study or hang out depending on her body language).
4) Have your way with - I hope you don't need help with this
5) Incognito -- Different in smaller classes. I don't recomend doing this until the semester is over.

If you really want to go 'incognito' after getting laid then I would change the system .. once getting her number don't invite her for 1 on 1 study sessions or whatever. Invite her to big parties or if you see her at the bar, fuck her. Then don't talk about it

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Thanks for the tips. All my classes are small...no lectures this semester. I feel like I've waited to long to sit next to her though. Everybody sits in the same spot every day now so I'd be stealing someone's seat and it would just seem awkward...not to mention really obvious what I'm doing. I think I'm just going to approach if I see a jawn I want to talk to on campus outside of class.

I never get to update this because my laptop is fried so I can only get online when I'm on campus, and I feel weird about using these forums in public for some reason (which is stupid...nobody is paying attention to me.) I'm posting from campus now though.

This weekend...went to the same bar I usually go to on Mondays again. Soon after I got there I made eye contact with a hipster HB7 brunette, told myself I'd approach after I got my drink (I was standing at the bar waiting and just turned around and made eye contact)...but she and her friends were gone when I got my drink. Would've been tough to approach for me though honestly, cause it was a 4set and I've never done more than a 2.

Saw Cupcakes there and was talking to her for a while, kino'ing etc...it went alright I guess. I broke off from her at some point though and just said bye to her cause I saw her outside before I left, she hugged me, I said "Let's hang, yeah? I'll text you"...she agreed.

Less than an hour before I left, I saw an Asian HB7.5 Hired Gun. She works as a bartender/waitress at the bar I watch football at. She never served me though. But...my team's fan club just changed their location so I wouldn't be going there anymore. Figured this was a mandatory approach. I just saw her when I was walking back to my friends from the bathroom, stopped and touched her arm, "Do you work at [bar]?" she said yeah...told her I was a fan of X team, so I'm there every Sunday. She asked if I was going tomorrow, if she served me before...I told her I always had "the white girl". Mostly small talk shit. She was dancing with a short skinny Asian dude...he had a unique fashion sense, I introduced myself to him and told him he was a "well dressed man"...HB7.5 agrees, she's wearing a blazer and says its his. Can't remember rest of interaction at this point but I broke it off and went back to my friend soon after. Went and sat at the bar with him for a few minutes before I went back in, told her "my friends are lame and not dancing so I'm joining you guys"...it was her a blonde HB8 and 3 Asian dudes. I engaged another one of the Asian dudes just so it wasn't obvious I was going for her...talked to him about school and shit, blah blah. Then I went back to the bathroom...

Door is locked somehow. A couple dudes come up and ask what's going on, I bullshit with them...start knocking but no response. Wait a little. Finally I push on the door and it opens. There are two chicks inside doing makeup it looks like? WTF? I walk in and see them, go "What the fuck?" they start laughing...I go to take a piss and they start speaking a foreign language...thought it was German, so I say "Why are you guys speaking German, why are you in here, wtf? ARe you 'powdering your noses'"...I'm doing it playfully though. They're like "GERMAN?? Ve are speaking Russian"...I'm like "Damn I've never met Russian girls before". They're HB6/7ish though it's hard to remember. The more attractive one says "I am Russian, she is from Ukraine". Then a bartender comes in to kick them out, he's wearing a Crown Royal bag on his head, I make some joke about that and they laugh more. I lost them after this though, which sucks cause I was trying to run with that. Dumb luck cause I didn't even have to approach but I got into a set.

Anyway...closing time is drawing near and I have a habit of going for numbers in these situations, even when I know I haven't put in the work to get it. So I try to get the Asian Hired Gun's number and was sooo awkward about it. Started off saying something like "You prob get hit on all the time at work" and she says "No not that often actually"...then said something like "Well you seem pretty cool..." Her face lets me know she knows where this is going, and I fucking say that..."You know where this is going, don't you?" and I get the "I'm seeing someone" line...blah. Oh well, I knew it was a Hail Mary.

And yeah that was it for last night. Had an incident yesterday afternoon though...

Go to the subway to go to the bar to watch football. Sitting on the bench and an HB7.5 comes downstairs, I look up instinctively and we make eye contact...she sits on the opposite side of the bench. Right away my PUA conscience or whatever kicks in and says "fucking do it"...stupidass brain argues and says "but what do I say blah blah"...she's wearing distinctive shoes, a shade of green I haven't really seen before with big bows on them. I actually like them so I figure I could simply just open with that. BUT I DON'T FUCKING DO IT. God dammit. Train comes and I get up and get on first...she gets in the same car behind me. Sits on the opposite side of the train and slightly behind me. I decide if we get off on the same stop it's absolutely happening. My stop comes and I get up, grab the rail and look down at her...eye contact again, she shakes her foot a little. She stands up and goes out first. I'm like "this is it" psyching myself up, she's up ahead though going up the steps. There's a transfer to another subway line at this station too, and she goes for that...but I'm leaving the subway at this stop. I start just walking off but then say fuck it and turn around and go to the other line...even though I kinda feel like a stalker.

As I'm walking onto the platform I see her coming down the stairs...she goes and sits on a long bench that's filled with other people, she sits on the corner. I walk past all these people and just decide to ask her directions just to prove I'm not afraid to do it. If I had more balls I guess I could've just gone with a direct opener but yeah I didn't. Just asked for directions and she told me and I left. Fuck. Walking away PUA conscience says "Should've just complimented her shoes you fucking pussy." Blah. I know this flies in the face of abundance mentality but she did get on the subway stop that's like 3 blocks from my house, so if I see her around the neighborhood I'm definitely opening. Even though I feel like I could look like a stalker.

But...that was a big step. I felt like it helped ease my AA a little. Next time I'm in a spot like that I'm DEFINITELY complimenting the shoes, or whatever else seems relevant to say. Saturday was good too. I felt so embarrassed when I got rejected but the next day I realized it doesn't matter. I'm going to spin this into some momentum. I might end up going to the same bar tonight, we'll see. Post back when I have more to update...

Saturday night - convinced an AFC-ish friend of mine to come to a bar with me with the goal of talking to girls. He's always done alright with chicks, just by finding girlfriends through his social circle, but is as lost as most guys are when it comes to picking up chicks at bars. I'm still an rAFC so it was a good learning experience for both of us. Showed up much later than I would have liked, because my friend wasn't in a rush to leave. Got there around 12:30 and the bar closed at 2 so we didn't have much time to make approaches, plus I hate showing up late because the end of the night is always bad for approaching, since that's when all the drunken chodes get the balls to do it. Anyway, ended up approaching 3 sets, pretty much all on my own. My friend didn't seem as motivated. He also forgot his ID when we got there so I ended up going in alone and was by myself for the first ten minutes or so. Saw an acquaintance at the bar and talked to him for a minute but other than that, was not doing a good job of being social/talking to lots of people. This is a major sticking point of mine. I have the limiting belief that people come to these places in groups, and they don't want random dudes jumping in. So I don't open anybody until after my friend gets there.

Set 1

Me and Friend start upstairs where it's hip/hop music and get drinks and talk a little before deciding to check out downstairs where it's oldies. Music is definitely better down here. We just go out into the dance floor and start dancing by ourselves, but there's plenty of chicks around...there's no pockets really, just kind of a free-flow composition on the dance floor. Two chicks are dancing right next to us...not all that cute, like HB5/6ish but I ask them if they want to start a dance circle with us...not the best opener but whatever. Girl says to me "We're just dancing"...I feel like she didn't hear what I said. I didn't plow or anything...and soon after they moved away to another part of the bar. Oh well.

Set 2

At some part in the night I run out of cash, and this bar doesn't take cards so I hit the SPAM. Then me and my friend sit at a table next to it and start talking. I see an HB6/7 looking kind of lost, just wandering around before she sits at a table by herself, looking bored. I point it out to my friend and tell him I'm going to approach. Get some AA going and tell him I don't know what to say, he tells me to just ask her to dance. So I stand up and consciously turn off my brain and walk over, feeling pretty nervous. I crouch down so I'm eye level and say, "You look kinda bored over here." She smiles big and says "Yeah I am really bored." I say "I kinda am too cause I'm not dancing for some reason, do you want to dance?" she enthusiastically agrees, still smiling big. Her reaction was really positive and I stopped feeling nervous right after I opened.

So we walk onto the floor...there's this dude just standing in the corner with his arms folded looking pissed, and she introduces me to him. I shake his hand and tell him my name, he tells me his but he's really cold/pissy. Me and her dance for a few minutes and he's kind of just standing there. Then a limbo circle starts and she tells me she's going to limbo...at first I intend to myself but it gets way too low so I don't (I should have anyway). So it's just me and him. Our interaction is fuzzy but I seriously blew this by asking if he was her boyfriend (WTF? Obviously he's not if she agreed to dance with me. He was clearly an orbiter)...he gets pissy and says "No, I'm not. But she has a boyfriend. Why, are you trying to hook up with her?" I say, "No, I'm not trying to, I just met her...but I guess I wouldn't mind it"... FACEPALM. And after this I end up bailing, cause my friend wants to go and the bar closes in 10 minutes anyway. Before I go I do one last approach though...

Set 3

Extremely cute blonde HB8 who I'd had my eye on earlier in the night, and been talking about with my friend but she was always in a big group and I'm not at the point yet where I can open big groups. As we're walking out though she's by herself, dancing on a table I think. I don't remember what I opened with exactly, something about how my friend is leaving already but I'm not trying to. She says "It's closing in 10 minutes anyway" I say something about liking to ride it out til the end...eh, it wasn't going smooth and she wasn't that receptive. Then a dude walks in who she acknowledges non-verbally...she gets down from the table and they hold hands and walk out into the floor. Every HB8+ has a BF already, I swear. Oh well. Still proud for approaching.

Lessons Learned

I like fucking up now. I woke up today with the mentality that my idiotic handling of the HB6/7 and her orbiter was just another step towards me improving. Now I know that next time I'm in this situation, I'll recognize it and handle it much more smoothly. She probably didn't even have a BF, what girl with a BF comes to a bar with a guy who's probably secretly into her, and then accepts another guys invitation to dance? Asking the question was stupid, and bailing afterwards was too. I should have convinced my friend to stay longer and pushed that set further...pissing the orbiter off made me think the set was blown but it wasn't at all. I've read advice that says you shouldn't leave a set until the girl asks you to, or walks away herself. I need to take heed of that advice next time I'm out.

This probably isn't going to be a great FR, cause I got hammered last night but whatever. Nine sets/Ten girls...I can't believe myself. And that's just the female sets...I was just socially on point last night, talking to everyone. Got blown out a couple times but most of the interactions were neutral or positive. Didn't get any results though, and I definitely could have.

Showed up around 10:45, same Monday night hipsterish dance party I used to go to every week during the summer. As I'm walking up I hear someone say my name, turn around and it's two girls (HB7/7.5) but I don't recognize them.

I say "Did you just say [JBlaze]?" HB7.5 - "Yeah you look like our friend [JBlaze]." "Oh, well that's actually my name so I was confused." Them: "No way really blah blah blah." "Well what are your names?"

They tell me, one has the same name as my sister. I tell her that and say "This is getting kinda weird"...then as I'm talking a couple of my friends walk up, one yells my name with a Y on the end, cause that's what my friends call me. I leave the HBs and go talk to him, then see two more of my friends leaving the bar, they yell my name too, I talk to them. Clutch as shit...social proof right from the get-go. I talk to them for a minute then go inside and wait at the bar for a bartender. While I'm waiting the HB7.5 comes in, she's all tatted up with a lot of piercings and wearing black...not usually the type I go for but she was hot. She saddles up right next to me...there's no one else waiting at the bar either. Says my name with the Y on the end, elongated. We'll say my name is Tom/Tommy just to make this easier. "Toooommmyyyy". I get close and talk in her ear cause it's loud as shit...say "I'm an asshole and forgot your name already"...she responds with something unrelated to what I said, apparently didn't hear me. Then says she didn't tell me her name yet, I say "yeah you did like two minutes ago"...she's clearly already drunk even though it's not even 11 yet. She says "Oh well I didn't even remember, you could've saved yourself the embarrassment." I get my drink and tell her I'm going to go find my friends (they're upstairs), planning on getting back to her later. I don't see her again after that. Fuck.

Went upstairs and hung out with a big group of friends/acquaintances at the pool table. Like 10+ in all. I just stick to them for an hour or so before I convince people to go downstairs to dance. We go down and it's dead...which is weird, usually Monday nights are popular here. There's an HB7.5 photographer who goes around to hipsterish bars/parties in the city and takes pictures and posts them online, I met her one through a friend. She's standing in the back by herself with her camera so I go up to her, say "[Event] is dead, what's the deal?" We talk about how it's died down since school started back up, she says sometimes it fills up around 1. She takes a picture of me. I go back to my friends. This is some inner game shit but I see her as out of my league just because she's somewhat of a socialite, I guess.

I talked to an HB6.5 I've seen there before, and the Asian kid she was with outside for a while. Just friendly stuff. It seemed like the dude was into her so I didn't try to game her.

Later in the night I got blown out twice. There was a blonde HB7 who I'd seen earlier in the night just kinda sitting by herself, before her brunette HB6 friend convinced her to dance. I went upstairs and saw her leaning against the bar...I just leaned up against it next to her. Told her my friends are being lame and leaving, so it looks like I have to make new friends. I can't remember what conversation came next, but eventually I asked her name. She says, "I don't have one." HA! I'm like "Oh really"..."I have a boyfriend"..."That's cool, but I wasn't hitting on you" (I wasn't...it was seriously just casual conversation and this girl was a total bitch). She rolls her eyes. I laugh, say "Whatever" and walk away. Then a few minutes later see her brunette friend leaning against the wall and open her (prob not a good idea but whatever)...I think I've actually seen her before and say that.. "Haven't I seen you somewhere before?" She just says "No" and walks away. Haha.

There's an afterparty and I'm standing outside with my friends waiting to go to that, when the HB7 hipsterish chick (not the tatted up one) comes out with a group of her friends. The HB7.5 isn't with them. As she's walking past I say "Hey you're the girl I met at the beginning of the night"...she calls me cute and then goes across the street and gets into a car with her friends. It happened so fast I couldn't even do anything. Fuck. Should have talked to her earlier in the night but I hadn't seen her before that.

At the afterparty, I talk to an Asian HB7.5 for a while but I fucked it up. I forget how I opened but at some point I asked her what nationality she was for some stupid reason. She tells me to guess. I tell her that might get me into trouble cause I know Asians are sensitive about being called the wrong Asian. I guessed like 6 different nationalities before I finally got it. And my Natural friend interrupted the set. This dude is seriously a horrible wingman. His game is all social proof because he knows a ton of DJ's and party promoters. He doesn't actually have the "game" we talk about on Seddit. He tells me I'm "wasting my time" because she was standing near the door when I was talking to her. WTF? He said she was trying to leave...but she was standing there when I opened the set. This dude also has a huge ego and there's no way he'd listen to me if I tried to criticize him for this type of shit.

Opened a blonde HB7...forget what I said to open (I learned how little your opening matters last night...I'd read it before but this is the first time it sunk in while in field). Found out she was a photographer and talked about that...at some point broke off. The conversation with her was awkward though...I have a hard time getting past small talk. I really need to work on my conversational skills. I went outside after talking to her and talked to an HB6 sitting on a bench about traveling, cause she's from Arizona and I have friends who moved there. This conversation was actually going really well but she clearly had a BF because some dude kept periodically coming over and touching her and shit (feeling threatened?). This was good though...helped get my confidence up that my convo skills might night be so bad.

Asian girl ends up straddling some fat sloppy looking dude outside and they leave together. I'm kinda pissed cause I wonder if that could've been me, if my friend didn't interrupt.

Talked to the same blonde again inside, was doing minor kino shit like just standing really close so our arms were touching, emphasizing points by touching her arm with the back of my hand, etc. This was going nowhere though.

A different blonde HB7 opened me...a few people were leaning on this bar thing that overlooks the downstairs, I made eye contact with her and she smiled and waved. I didn't make enough effort here though. It seemed like she might have been with a dude there, plus it was like 4 in the morning at this point and I was exhausted.

Talked to an HB7 who I met at the same place once before and she complimented my eyebrows (interesting)...she didn't remember me though and was being kinda standoffish so I didn't pursue that.

This is really long so I'm just going to cap it here. I'm not sure if I got every set but yeah. 9 sets! I can't believe it. My friends band is playing at a bar in the same area tonight and I'm looking forward to using this momentum (I'll have mad social proof! He's the lead singer and one of my best friends from high school). Hopefully I have another FR soon.

awesome, keep it up! its gotta be nice to look at your first post and look at the progress you've made. Even though you haven't gotten much results in terms of numbers or dates yet, it seems like your confidence is building, so its only a matter of time. You can initiate now, which is awesome, now focus on turning your sexy on, setting a vibe, AND CLOSING THAT MOTHER FUCKER!!! I'm still at the beginning of where you are actually, I have yet to have a day where I really set aside some time to purely game. Looking forward to the night where I can go and hit on an ass-load of women and have fun while doing it.

I'll keep reading and replying if you keep posting!

Same bar I go to any time I'm going out on a Monday night. Hipster dance party. Had plans to meet one friend who's a regular there and knows everyone who works there. Texted an acquaintance to see if he'd be there. Walked in and saw HB6 I was pursuing for a while but decided to friend zone cause her issues are just too annoying (she has oneitis for her ex). Talked to her and her HB6 sister for a few minutes. They decide to go upstairs. I get a beer and go up...see the acquaintance I'd been texting at a booth in the back with a big group of people. Sat with them. Got introduced to the people I didn't know. One girl in the group was an HB6.5 I have class with, but was acquainted with before that. She says hi to me. Some small talk about class, blah blah. After a while I realize there's an HB7 and 6 sitting at the table next to our booth. But it's just one long bench on the wall so the HB7 is right next to me. I make eye contact with HB6 across the table and it lingers for a split second...just as she's looking away I smile and wave. She waves back. HB7 asks me what my name is. We all exchange names, shake hands. I ask if she's been to this event before and she says she used to all the time during the summer. We talk about how it's died down, etc.

Here's where I fucked up. And I do this all the time. Whenever conversation starts to lull I bail. I used the excuse of needing another beer but fuck that. I really need to read up on conversation. I'm going to look at some articles on girlschase.com for this I think, cause I've read them before but wasn't approaching when I did, so they never got put to use. And now they aren't fresh in my head anymore.

Anyway...go get a beer, sit in the booth with my friends. The HB7 isn't there anymore. Two more of my friends eventually get there. We get a decent sized group out and dancing. HB7 and HB6 from earlier are dancing near us. And I don't do shit about it. Fuck. Definitely should have tried to integrate them into our group. This is the same shit though. Waiting til later. Putting it off. It's not much better than AA.

Here's why I do it: In the cases where I've fucked up sets, it's because I've come off as too invested. So now I overcompensate by trying to be the guy who's just there having fun with his friends...which isn't necessarily the wrong thing to do, but I take it too far. If I'm talking to a girl I'll bail on the set and go back to my friends, trying to give the impression that I don't care. But I obviously get nowhere by doing this, because I have the mentality of waiting til later in the night, and later never comes.

Here's what happened "later". Saw HB7 and HB6 sitting on a couch along the wall. Go sit down to HB7 and say "I'm an asshole and forgot your name" because I did. She asks "Wait have we met?". She's drunk and doesn't remember. Obviously. All we talked about was the bar. Nothing about each other, so why would I have made a lasting impression?

At the end of the night I'm standing outside with friends and she comes out. I can't remember how the conversation started this time...but her friends were leaving. We said a few words and she starts walking, and then turns around and asks "wait when did we meet again, was it tonight or another night?" I tell her and she says something like "well it was nice meeting you" and leaves. And I don't ask for the number, because I've forced #-closes in the past. We'd hardly talked all night but it's very possible she was attracted. She did essentially open me earlier in the night (even though it was because I opened her friend first), plus the fact that she started walking away, then came back...Fuck. Am I wrong here? I feel like I should've just gone for the number, despite the fact that there was no comfort or whatever.

Lessons Learned

I have serious issues with letting past failures fuck up my game. Coming off as too needy in the past has lead to me overcompensating and trying too hard to look like I don't care. Who knows what could've happened with HB7 if I'd kept the interaction going at the beginning of the night? Same shit happened last week. Met two HB7 outside this bar and one came right up next to me at the bar, and I bailed cause the music was too loud to hear each other so I got uncomfortable. I need to push myself to stay in sets. "Later" doesn't exist...there's only the here and now.

Monday night dance party again...I'm wiped out from last night so I'm going to keep this brief. I think I approached 3 sets. It was at least that many, not sure if I'm forgetting any.

Felt awkward early in the night because I had few close friends there. Just one of the dudes I came with really, and he was focusing his attention on a specific girl he's been talking to so I couldn't really hang with him. Had acquaintances though and eventually got myself to loosen up.

First approach was upstairs. Upstairs is smaller and hip-hop music, compared to the big downstairs which is more electronic/dance music. Saw two girls just standing by the DJ booth kinda being wallflowers...HB7 and an Indian HB6 who looked bored/pissy. Just started talking to the HB7, asking why they weren't dancing. I can't remember the exact conversation. Found out she'd just moved to the city from Georgia. Said "you don't have the accent though"...she said she's not from there originally. I said "I'm being rude and ignoring your friend" and introduced myself to her but she was being cold. HB7 was being smiley/generally receptive. Told them they should check out downstairs cause it's more fun, she asked me how it was different. Talked about the music...told her it's hard to describe music with words. Told her to find me if they decided to go down.

I ended up just going down there myself right after the approach...ran into an HB7 acquaintance I've only met a few times. She opened me. I said her name and she forgot mine, blah blah talked about being bad with names, ended up dancing with her and her friends for a while before going upstairs and talking with some of the people I came with and others I ran into.

Later in the night, the HB7 from upstairs comes down. I'm talking to an HB6 I've mentioned in this blog before (Cupcakes), who's turned into a friend. She's shy and shit and not drunk enough to dance, I'm trying to get her to. The HB7 and her friends are at the other end of the bar ordering drinks. I tell Cupcakes to help me out and dance with me so the other girl sees it and it'll make me look good. She agrees. We do this but they end up going back upstairs.

I dance by myself for a while at the end of the night...sort of. Was dancing by the same 2set but never really opened them. There was a 3set with a guy/girl dancing and one girl by herself, I asked her to dance but she said no. Whatev. One of the girls from the 2set was standing by the bar by herself at one point so I went and talked to her but she ejected after a couple minutes.

Gets to the end of the night and I turn around to walk outside and see Upstairs HB7 and her friends. Go up to her and turn her around by the shoulder, say "See, didn't I tell you? Downstairs is totally cooler" she says something like "I didn't know" and some shit about being new blah blah, they say they're leaving cause it's closing, I tell her they don't kick people out til 2:30 but her friends are leaving. At this point it's just me and her, Indian girl from before starts to move toward the door. I just decide to go for it and put my hand on her back and pull her in and say "Would you like to hang out sometime?" she says "yes"...I take out my phone and hand it to her, she puts the number in. I pull her in again and say "I'll text you". Sent her a text about ten minutes later just saying "Hey Georgia [Name]! It's [Jblaze] from [bar], I'm txting you so you don't forget who I am"...she texts back right away "I won't forget".

Interesting interaction. Didn't think I had done enough to get a number but apparently it didn't matter. I know numbers don't mean much but yeah this is the first #-close in a while. I think I'm going to text her today. There's a Halloween beer crawl near my house...seems like a good way to hang out, plus I'll have the opportunity to bring her back to my place. I'm starting to get concerned about this step though because I live in a shitty apartment above a restaurant. Not exactly a panty-dropper. I figure if I put in good enough work beforehand to get her back there it shouldn't matter at that point though.

I have a date Tuesday with the HB7 from the last report. She said she "had plans" when I invited her to the beer crawl, but added "but another time". This was Tuesday...waited til Friday and texted "You free Sunday for some drinks and conversation?"...said she would be out of town, but suggested Tuesday. Did some texts back and forth figuring logistics...picked a place. It's on. I'm gonna text her tomorrow to set a specific time. Place is ten minutes from my house...I originally suggested a place in Center City, which is meeting halfway for us, she said she'd been there and likes trying new places so I suggested another one near my place. She's coming from way across town to go. Seems like this could turn out pretty well for me.

The only dates I've been on in the past I've been clueless. Most of them I was probably already friend zoned and they weren't even dates. So for Tuesday I'm just focusing on keeping her talking about herself most of the time, doing push/pull, and most importantly: KINO KINO KINO. I'll write again Wednesday probably.

Date with HB7

Had a few things in mind that I wanted to put into practice. Most importantly I wanted to make sure to kino, which I failed to do (I'll get into more detail with that), make sure to have her talk about herself most of the time and talk about emotional/personal experiences (success), and do some push/pull (also fail, cause I have no idea how to do that.)

We went to a gastropub only about a 10 minute walk from my house. We live on opposite ends of the city and I initially suggested a place sort of halfway for both of us, but she's new in town and said she's been there and would rather try a new place so I switched to this place. So she came all the way from the other side of town to go out with me...seems like a good sign to me.

She was late, but it wasn't a big deal because I was just waiting at my house for her to text me when she was close. Not like I was waiting at the bar. She apologized when we met up and I said "I don't blame you too much, it's not your fault you're a girl." She laughed. We started walking and I asked if she'd been to this part of the city yet, talked about where she was from originally...she just moved from Savannah cause she went to school there, told me it's different than the rest of Georgia, I compared it to Austin, TX...she said that was accurate. Found out she's three years older than me (26)...this surprised me because she seemed 21/22 at the bar. I won't go into that much detail but the conversation seemed to go well on the walk over.

I'd been to this place a few times before but it had been awhile...I was thinking there was a circular booth up front but I remembered incorrectly because it was a circular table with individual chairs. I sat first and she sat across from me. Shit. I was afraid of this happening...so no kino opportunities. I probably had some later in the night that I didn't take advantage of though. We went out to smoke at one point...definitely could have thrown some in here but I'm still such a newb. And we went for a walk around the neighborhood at the end of the night because I'd been talking about how this area has a lot of bars/restaurants/shops etc. It was cold when we left and I said something, she said something about it being colder than when we left. I'm thinking here I could have locked arms, said something like "Let's share body heat"? I even thought of this when we were walking but didn't do it. Blah.

I don't even know when opportunities to push/pull come up so I was clueless in this area. She did talk a lot about herself though, and we got to personal topics...family, dreams/goals/aspirations, traveling, books/movies, growing up/getting older, marriage...just to name a few. So I think I did okay conversationally, though there were a few ~30 second silences here and there. I was also really honest with her and told her how I used to be shy, how two years ago I wouldn't even think to come and talk to her at a bar like I did last week...she said it was good that I did. Talked about how down south everyone talks to each other, is super friendly compared to big northeastern cities where people are more closed off. This was probably one of the better conversational threads.

Early in the night she asked if anything fun to do was coming up. I told her about my friends band playing a show at a pretty big venue Saturday, she said she's probably not doing anything. Also brought up the art museum and how it's free the first Sunday of the month, she volunteered her schedule, said she might be able to go early in the day. This was only 15 minutes or so into the date and she seemed to be open to making plans to hang out again, seems like another good sign?

Walking her back to the subway I brought up my friends show again...but didn't explicitly ask her to come. She said she's probably not doing anything. We got to the subway and had the standard "this was fun" chat...she initiated a hug. I told her I'd text her.

So I'm not really sure what to think of this. Failed with kino but definitely got a good emotional connection going in the conversation. But also didn't push/pull. At this point I figure I'll try to get her out again and this time really ramp up the attraction building (kino and flirting), lest I risk falling into the Friend Zone. Hopefully I haven't already. Thoughts? I'm 23 and this was probably my first formal date...outside of going to movies and shit with girls in high school, and "chilling" with girls in college. I was nervous as hell at some points but overall I don't feel too bad about it.

Wow, I never get to update this thing anymore since I don't have a damn computer. I'll try to get everything noteworthy down here...

I blew it with HB7. Don't feel like going into too much detail but yeah. She was flaky towards me trying to get her out again. Then she invited me out to the same place we met. I deduced through text that she invited a few people. My gut told me not to go, because I'd have to deal with her friends in a loud dancy club and I knew I'd be uncomfortable. I went anyway. She showed up like half hour late. So I was sitting at the bar getting progressively more pissed, because I absolutely HATE waiting for people. Especially this night, because I knew no one else there. Obviously I should have just taken this as an opportunity to solo sarge but this is like my biggest hurdle right now. I can't get myself in state at a bar by myself. The good nights I have always start with me having a good time with my friends. So I sulked and drank by myself and then acted like an asshole when she got there. Apologized via text the next day and got a "no worries" back, but I pinged her yesterday and got no response. So I'm done with that. If she by some crazy chance texts me on her own I'll re-evaluate but that's highly doubtful.

That was last weekend. A week ago (Monday) I went to the same dance party. Was fucking up by not making approaches. I talked to a couple of chicks but it was really casual. I don't know what was up with me. Again, just not in state I guess because I only really had one friend there. But...things got somewhat interesting after the bar closed. Me and said friend went outside, he was talking to some girl he knew, when a girl I'd met before comes over. Some background on her...

Met her at this same bar probably a month earlier. It was near end of night and a friend of mine was standing near the back away from the dance floor. He had his arm in a sling, I asked why he wasn't dancing and he blamed that. Two HB7 standing near us, I open them "My friend thinks he can't dance cause his arm's in a sling, what do you think of that?" He ends up making out with the brunette HB7. She did all the work. It was funny to watch. After it started going on I nudged blonde HB7, "Look what I did! I've got skills"...or something to that effect. This is fuzzy cause I'm writing it like 6 weeks after the fact. But I broke off from her at one point and went upstairs, and not long after she was up there. Comes up to me and says "I got sick of watching other people make out." Wow, invitation much? But guess what guys, I WAS TOO DRUNK TO FUCKING NOTICE. No moves were made. Facepalm.

Saw her like a week after that, at an afterparty from a different night at the same bar. She came up to me, yelling my name. I didn't even remember hers. She was with a dude though. I saw her across the place later in the night and started to walk over but she saw me and started walking away. Odd. Dropped it at that point.

Fast forward to last week. She comes up and looks at me, says "Hey we've met". End up going to an after hours club with her, her friend, and my friend. End up grinding with her during the last half hour the place is open. There's like no one else there cause it's Monday. It seemed kind of sexual. I dunno. At first we were dancing separately and then I just pulled her in to grind and said something like "That's much better", and she verbally agreed. She was grinding right on my crotch and I was just moving my hands around, from her waist to her hips to the top of her ass. I started getting hard cause she has a really nice ass. She broke off from me not long after this. Place starts closing and she mentions all four of us coming back to her place for drinks. But then she bails at the last second, saying she's too drunk already (this was obviously true though). So that was that. I feel like this girl is attracted to me though. Would be nice if I hadn't been a drunk fucktard the night we met and went for the makeout. Probably could've F-closed by now if I had. It's likely I'll see her again though (possibly tonight? going to that party again). If/when I do I'm doing my best to game her.

Now for the most recent update. I got another makeout. Just like the last one I wrote about on here...I did none of the work! Ironic isn't it? This girl was a friend of friends. It happened back home over Thanksgiving break. Went out to a dancy bar with some other friends, their group was there. My one good friend apparently had been talking me up/trying to set me up. At first I HATED this. I seriously hate being set up/assigned a girl. I let him know this. Was resistant at first. But the roles were totally reversed. She seduced me. She's like HB6 or so, kinda thick but cute. But personality wise not my type at all. Still got me though. We were sitting in a circular booth, like 4 girls 2 guys and she was across from me. Got up and sat next to me. Right next to me, legs touching. It was obvious very early that I could get with her if I wanted. She ended up buying me a shot. We danced and she was being really aggressive, grinding hard, putting her hand around my neck. At first I wasn't feeling it at alllll but I eventually got drunk enough and we started making out on the dance floor. She kept putting my hands on her tits. I kept pushing as far as I could and she didn't resist annnnnyyything. Hands in bra, down panties. It was pretty slutty. But whatever.

I'm getting tired of writing so I'll cut it here. But that helped my confidence a lot. I'm going out again tonight, looking forward to actually being aggressive. Getting passive results is alright but I need to be making things happen on my own, otherwise why even work towards putting this kind of stuff into practice? I'll try to get back into the habit of updating this regularly.

3 sets last night. 2 negative/blowout reactions, one neutral/friendly conversation. Not really worth writing about in detail.

I lack focus though. I'm pretty much still winging it most nights I go out. Also, I really need a legitimate wingman.

Sasha Daygame is speaking in Philly next week. Only $7 to see it. I'm really looking forward to that. When my friend was driving home I looked at my phone and saw the email about it. Just before I checked my phone I'd been thinking about how I need to at least start integrating day game into my routine. I've been meaning to do this forever but just can't get over my AA during the daytime. I really think this is the best way for me to meet girls though, because I want a GF more than random flings. Seems like the daytime would be the best time to meet a GF. I'll update after his talk...maybe before if I have anything.

Hey! JBlaze! It's been a while since we've communicated, but I think I have something for ya! Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

It's one piece of info that'll DESTROY your AA and make you feel super confident when approaching. Promise.

Talk to you soon,

Lion Lascivious (name change coming soon!)

Hey j blaze, just read your blog. You've made some awesome progress, props to you comrade.
You should try and find a wing at the talk your going to, preferably sasha!
It should have guys with the same mindset there anyways.

My advice to you is to try to progress from the small talk and find something to hook the girl your talking with, you need to try and find an emotional topic that you and the girl can both relate to.
One of the most important things you can say to a girl is 'why?' and actually listen to the response.
If she says she works in a bakery, ask:
Why?
Is that what you've always wanted to do?
She'll say something like "no I wanted to be an artist"
Now your getting somewhere.
"I love art, my favourite artist is mc esher his work is so weird, there's an open day at the local museum on Monday's, I'm totally going to take you, I'll bring the hip flask you bring the chocolate bars."
Something like that.
Your also relying on your friends to much because AFC's are terrible wings, they will blow you out of the water because they don't understand what your doing, they will generally lower your value with off hand remarks because their jealous. You should be able to sarge sets of 2-3 hb's by yourself and comfortably handle the convo, which applies up to around hb 1 to 8.
To open sets of more than 3 it does help having a clued up friend to wing and pick up the slack.
And if your going to open a set with a hb 10 in, their friends will cock block you they've just seen around 10 guys more attractive than you get shot down, so they don't want to see their friend with anything less.
Just remember you've got better game already than 70% of the guys out their and it's only going to get better.

You seem to do pretty good with the smerting (smoking and flirting) if you improve your mid game this could be a good area for you.
I'd recommend learning one routine and trying it just to see if you can get a hook from it, I use natural game but I do use a couple of routines every now and then. I like the Greek gods five ring routine, because I'm personally interested in mythology.

What else can I say:
Your relying on alcohol a little for your AA, you'll deny it but it's true. Drink less and open more, by opening more you'll have less time to drink, you'll either be talking to more hot girls or introducing them to your bedroom.

Your having the problem with flakes as well, this is because either you haven't build enough comfort or attraction, the comfort will come when you connect with her on a deeper level, the attraction needs to be built by decent kino escalation and breaking rappor. As you know a number means fuck all if you can't get a date, a girl will only meet up with you if she trusts you and is attracted to you.

Your also missing when you should be switching to direct game, if a girl is getting you to squeeze her breasts it's time to take her home, simple as.
You simply had to whisper in her ear "we're leaving", take her hand get in a taxi and go back to yours.

You should also be aiming for a f close and only settling for a number close. I'm guilty of this myself, I get into a conversation if the girl's interesting and neglect to take the conversation sexual.

Remember that girls can read no verbal signs naturally, where as men or specifically PUA's generally need to learn it.
Read books on body language so you can identify IOI's without thinking.

Your club game sucks because your a natural conversationalist and that's your strong suite. So if noise is fucking your game learn to do it without talking.
Gamblers stealth attraction taught me loads on this front.
The way you look at a girl will show your interested, then the way you kino a girl will show how interested.

When you have a night when your on fire try this:
See a girl you like, catch her attention with a raise of your glass, gambler calls this a forced IOI because you forced her to respond to you or show interest. You gauge how interested by what her initial response is like, you should know the difference between a rejection and genuine interest by now.

If she smiles it's an open invite to go up to her, and ask her to dance where again you won't have to say a word to her, or you could try and isolate her and ask her if she fancies some fresh air, where you can talk to her.

If she's nonchalant with the forced IOI you better have some good game because she's going to have a bitch shield up.

I hope this helps comrade, your making great progress.
Keep the reports coming.