Walk up to them, ask if they want to get with you.

If they say yes, win; if they say no, then you've wasted ten seconds of your night.

So far this has worked two of four times. Obviously this isn't the greatest sample but as of now, it's a 50% success rate.

On a night out I just want to bounce around and drink; I don't mind getting with girls on nights out but it's too much effort so I just thought about doing this. I couldn't care less if some random girl I'm not going to see again thinks I'm rude (which probably helps me because she can probably tell I just don't give a shit) or doesn't want to get with me . There are so many more out there.

Obviously there are some things you can do to make this more than purely down to chance (your looks, her level of drunkness etc):

- Make sure you really just don't care what she says. If you can't handle it, don't try it. If she thinks it's a bet with friends or that you care what she thinks, then chances are you'll get a no.

- Catch her eye and give her the elevator. Look her up and down, then look back at her. Chances are she;ll have seen you do this. Look her in the eye until she looks away - you are a man and will not back down.

- If you want to influence her a bit more, talk to her for a bit. It doesn't matter what about, just make her laugh, but as soon as you get the feeling she's ok talking to you, hit on her. Hit on her hard and shamelessly. Put your hand on her bum, just touch her everywhere. Imagine a gear thudding in your head and you're now in full get with girls mode.

Remember this: the quicker she rejects you, the quicker you can go and enjoy your night and you've not wasted any time. The quicker she gets with you, well that's also a win. You can't lose if you don't give a shit.

My next aim is to see how quick I can get these girls to come outside and suck me off. I asked the one the other night and she wasn't too keen. The conversation went a little like this.

Me: So do you want to come outside and suck me off?
Her: (not sure what she said, but it looked like no)
Me: Come on, I'll fuck you as well (was meant to be funny)
Her: (still not sure what she said) (it obviously wasn't funny)
Me: Oh well, there's not much point talking then, see you.

I then walked off and bounced around and had a good night with my mates. On reflection I think I probably shouldn't have been so forward. Maybe talked to her for a bit before subtley suggesting we do other stuff, or just fingered her on the dancefloor (I've done that plenty of times, but it's her pleasure not mine).

All of the above take effort, and are not guarantees. If you finger her go in from behind because they don't expect it, and once it's in they don't want it out (you might get pushed away but just judge how she'll act before hand - or just ask her if you can finger her discreetly. Tell her how "no one will know what we're doing, it;ll be so hot". Really paint an erotic picture). She'll then be more turned on and more receptive maybe to you asking her if she wants to suck your dick. All of this has yet to be tested though.

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Be unashamedly sexual. There're literally millions of girls and you're only young once. Unless the girl is incredibly naive, they all know why you're really talking to them, and it isn't because they think you want their opinion or because you want to make some new friends. They know you want to put your knob in them, so why pretend otherwise?

Don't bother getting numbers. Ideally you want to avoid talking to them as little as possible in order to get what you want, a quick hit and run then off. If you think the girl is worth it though in terms of looks, get it. I called a girl over the other week, told her I'd smash fuck out of her when she bent down to hear what I had to say, then when she didn't reciprocate with enthusiasm I told her to sit down and we talked about uni and stuff for twenty minutes. We then went to the next bar so I got her number for another time, and we'll see what happens on the bar crawl next week.

Note

With such a small sample so far, on another day it could've been 4/4 or 0/4. However, I do know that I've been getting further now that I've started being sexual and split up with my gf. I'm talking to girls at uni and they're interested in me, and when I eyefuck girls on nights out I'm getting positive responses. Remember you are a man.

This whole post is under the assumption that all you care about is getting as far as you can with a girl, as quickly as possible. If you're looking for a relationship, then this thread probably isn't for you.

I believe this is called, "The Destroyer"

And I've heard the ratio is about 1/20. In other words, ask 20 girls, "Wanna go fuck?" and 1 out of 20 will say yes.

This sounds like a more vague reinvention of the apocalypse opener.

Seems decent but just like the Apocolypse opener you have a big chance of tripping her asd even if she was dtf. I think if you spend 5 minutes tAlking/building rapport you'll increase your success 10 fold because now her actions are more justifiable.

Well I'd say the success ratio is dependent on the guy using the line. There are some guys out there with enough confidence, that they can deliver a line like this in such a manner that it wont seem insulting, but rather simply seem like a question that he asks often with no shame attached to it. This is very much a framing issue. A girl must be very much in your reality in order for this to work, and even then since there is not much preexisting preparation, her previous mood and mindsets may inhibit her as well. That is what pickup is, getting a woman in the right mood and mindset for sex, this eliminates that prep work and tries to compress that all into one well delivered line.

This is indeed the "diet version" of the apocalypse opener. Basically it is the same as playing the numbers game. Either they instantly like you or they dont. But it is not fun and it is not efficient.

Many halfway experienced PUAs claim that this works just by looking at their own results. It works for them so it should work for others too. But they forget that they are halfway experienced and have learned stuff like inner game, bodylanguage and their beliefs have changed so that they are gonna be more attractive to women just by being there. These things often go from active to passive as you progress. Just dont forget to take into account that newbies dont have this training when you give them advice.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

i like it, but this is weak:

"My next aim is to see how quick I can get these girls to come outside and suck me off. I asked the one the other night and she wasn't too keen. The conversation went a little like this.

Me: So do you want to come outside and suck me off?
Her: (not sure what she said, but it looked like no)
Me: Come on, I'll fuck you as well (was meant to be funny)
Her: (still not sure what she said) (it obviously wasn't funny)
Me: Oh well, there's not much point talking then, see you. "


just grab her hand, and lead her, if she says something about her friends, tell them to tell them or text that that she will be right back, if the friends are right there tell and are about to come and cock block tell them" we is just gonna be for 10 minutes don't worry i promise i will bring her right back or some shit like that"...You are practically begging with words like "do you want to" and "come on" ... not smooth, but you have the right idea.

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