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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:57 am 
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Hi all,

I am 26 yrs old. I kissed a girl once and never had sex. I knew about the PUA for a while but never had urge to become one until I was done with college (yea, I lost the best opportunity). One day, I was standing in an empty hall way. I didn't like it because it was representing my life at the moment. That's when it hit me in the head that I need to change myself.

For past couple of months, I've been learning the ESP tricks, magics, palm reading, cold reading, NLP, etc. When I practiced them on my friends or strangers, they were all surprised of what I did. In my head, I have a few openings, transition steps, and other materials. Though, the problem was I never put everything together from opening to the closing. I thought "I need to make a move at least to see where I am at."

So today I was at the coffee shop full of students studying for the finals. I noticed two girls walking in and each sat on the 1-person couch in front of a table. Meanwhile, I was reading a book of "How to win friends & influence people" by Dale Carnegie, which is an interesting book. It took me an hour to come up with some courage to approach them after making a plan to open, change the subject, neg the target here and there, present the value (and increase), isolate the target, do the palm reading, and N-close. This was the first time approaching the girls with an interest to pick-up.

My opening was somewhat successful. Though, I shouldn't even asked if they were busy (I should have just asked their opinion w/o giving them an option). But they responded and I sat on the table in front of them with my backpack on my back. They were engaged in the opening conversation. But the target's friend soon lost the interest and that's when everything went opposite from what I planned. I didn't get to present my value and isolate the target. The good thing was that the target was talking the whole time. After exchanging the names, I left because my heart was pumping so hard and I could feel my face was getting red hot!

That was my first-ever field report. Now it's time to analyze it and find the ways to improve. I am over conscious of my surroundings; I hate being humiliated. I have problem transitioning smoothly between the stages. It's hard for me to quickly come up with correct response to trigger them in a short period of time. What do you guys think?


Should I have continued the talk with my target until I felt comfortable and found a way to sneak in? (I feel the answer is 'duh')

Did I pick a wrong time (right before the finals) and place (coffee shop)?

Should I have focused more on the targets friend? How can I keep the target's accompany in the conversation?

I was hunched over in the opening. Should I change the posture? If so, in what way should I change?

Do I need to learn more routines to be able to response quickly? (I am going to learn them regardless; I'm just trying to find out the correlation here)

If not, what would reduce my response time and increase the quality of my responses?

Lastly, for the particular situation above, do you have any other advise(s) on what/how I can do differently if I get into a similar situation?


I'm trying my best to break my shield and stepping out of my comfort zone. Your generous opinion is greatly appreciated.


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you did fine, now just do it 100 more times and watch how much easier it gets.

Good work on taking control and chgangeing your life, you have a great story, keep up the great work.


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Did I pick a wrong time (right before the finals) and place (coffee shop)?
For some girls the wrong time, for some girls perfect time.
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Should I have focused more on the targets friend? How can I keep the target's accompany in the conversation?
let the friend know what you're doing, and make sure she approves, after that, only talk to her if you actually enjoy her in the conversation.


Personally i don't like routines. Everyone learns differently and has different methods that work for them.


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mi1ooo98,

So if you don't stick to the routines, what and how do you do your games?
Thanks.


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I find routines to be boring, and they come across in my interactions that i'm bored when i'm doing it. I don't believe anything should be faked.

I say things that i find funny, and that i find makes me feel like a better person(DHV). As hard as it can be, i try not to focus at all on what i think the girl wants me to say. Instead of focus entirely on what i find to make the conversation fun and interesting, at the same time, introducing escalation, which is fun for me.


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routines are a crutch and filler material, how much you use them is a matter of taste. So can spit all routines and have great game, Mystery& Style, or you can do natural game once your inner game is tight.

If the routines are working for you that's fine, stick to that for now, down the road you can do your own shit and let you be you. For right now you just need to keep approaching and opening, over and over, and keep learning.


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I really want the emphasize detox's point, the more you approach, the more you learn, no matter what level you're at.


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