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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:28 am 
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"Tell her you like her"

When asking for advice on how to go after a girl your interested in. Usually ends up with her saying "Oh your a really nice guy, but i just think of you as a friend bla bla bla"

Pretty much the most AFC thing you could ever do is tell a girl your feelings towards her without her showing it first.


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I must not understand "being yourself?" I never had any outside influence from age 0-17 on how to game, it was only my purest self. I never knew AFC, kino, openers and all that shit. So being my own unfiltered self I got ZERO girlfriends, and ZERO numbers; and I'm still not "strong" in any one thing because picking and choosing things in PUA is like asking for a ice cream cone with sprinkles, but no ice cream - its retarded. Maybe you had influence in your young PUA life when you had this preconceived notion or you were lucky enough to have natural game, but most guys don't so I can sympathize with what normally happens.
You perceived yourself as having no success so you had no success, don't blame it on "being yourself" because you weren't being yourself at all. Being yourself is knowing who you truly are, trusting yourself, and knowing your talents. If you know these three things then you will be successful in anything you try in life, guaranteed. Developing a fake coffee lounge or football buff personality isn't required for success with women. I am just letting you know this.


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"Be yourself"
Bullshit lol, bein myself got me 0 girls until I decided my senior year in highschool the world is screwin me over (at least someone was) and I gotta change
You really don't understand the meaning of "being yourself"? It's kinda sad that most around here have to get into characters to pull women. "Being yourself" really means knowing what you are strong at and what you can do well. Any person that "knows themselves" and knows what they are good at understands that being who you truly are is not a bad thing. I got "0" girls when I put myself into "character" and tried to "act" tough, cocky and funny. When I started to realize who I was and what I was good at, and what I actually liked to do personally, I became much more successful. More guys would be successful if they understood who they are, what they are good at, and what they liked to do. Sad truth is that most guys don't, they spend time focusing on what they are bad at, trying to improve on things they may hate doing so they get the results that they seek out, weakness, inadequacy, and failure. And if that is what you seek out when you try to improve your life, then that is what you will get.

However, all people are individuals and I certainly won't knock what works for one individual. That just means that it works for that one individual. I am speaking from my personal experience, and not from the vantage point of another individual. I failed miserably when I tried to act like I was someone else, or I spent my time trying to improve weaknesses instead of harnessing strengths.
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Holding eye contact is great.. look at edward from twilight and how many girls are all over his dick, its because he is so expressive with his eyes. This is textbook body language and not up for debate.
Lol, you must not have much life experience. I've just seen too many shy and timid guys pull women with the shy attitude to believe this non-sense. Now I will not debate that eye contact and expression are quite attractive qualities for most women, but it is not something to which all men must aspire to. There are other ways than what is being defined here in your own statement. Engaging people the way that is most natural to you will most likely garner the successful an individual seeks. Edward is a charming and respectable individual; however, one thing that Edward is good at is using his body language, because he is an actor, body language comes natural to him. It is his form of expression, his form of speech.

Every man has his own form of speech which he can master. But most men shy away from finding their voice which would truly make them strong. Some men are great orators, debaters, and salesmen. For them, the natural form of communication would be to talk. It could potentially have the same effect over a woman as Edward's body language. Some men's natural language is to listen, some women feel safe telling them things and confiding in them. For other men it may be sight, they may see things about an individual no other man can see. They could potentially be observant and notice things no other man can notice.

The point being, that body language is not some ultimatum, nor it is it required for success with women. Knowing your specific talents and strengths could have the same effect. I have too much life experience to really believe a lot of the stuff spoken here. However, I don't disrespect it, because that is the image that "PUA" pursues. And hell, I'm strong enough to admit that I may have found the wrong community. If the "bad boy strong image" is one that this community pursues then hey, I respect that. I am just telling people here, that it is not required. There are other ways of achieving what you desire to achieve. You just have to be open to knowing your own talents, and most people spend their lives worried about what they aren’t talented in.
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Completely agree, guru.

Going up and asking her a question you don't care about, just to start a conversation.
Acting like you don't want to talk to her, and you're only interested in the question. When in reality, it's the complete opposite.
But that isn't being yourself at all, that's being someone else in the hopes of impressing a woman. Even I knew that :? ...


Sorry, but being myself truly would mean apologizing alot, putting others feelings before me all the time, telling everyone how much I love comic books, buying women presents, ect..............

I had to fundamentally change my personality to attract women... tease them, emphasize respect for me, not express feelings half as much as id like to, ect.

Guys who act like alpha males with women get the women. This is why I fake it. Guys who KEEP trying to act like alpha males with their buddies, family, ect....aka that is really THEM....those guys, in my mind, are total assholes for the most part.

Truly nice dudes cant be themselves to the fullest extent with women.
I disagree with the entirety of this statement for the most part, but I know battering this concept with a loud bull horn will only be fallen unto death ears. I can no longer fight this; people will do whatever makes them happy. And if creating a pretend character makes you happy then do it. But don't poison the well and tell all the new guys that they have to change themselves and be something different to get women. It's false and ingenuous in my opinion. Not only is getting into character not required, but there is a much easier way to become successful than what you are proposing. I view your approach to “success” to be a fatally flawed one that will leave most men in this community either on the brink of failure or walking through it.


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You perceived yourself as having no success so you had no success, don't blame it on "being yourself" because you weren't being yourself at all. Being yourself is knowing who you truly are, trusting yourself, and knowing your talents. If you know these three things then you will be successful in anything you try in life, guaranteed. Developing a fake coffee lounge or football buff personality isn't required for success with women. I am just letting you know this.
I didn't perceive myself as anything, if you actually read what I said instead of trolling you'd see I said I didn't know anything at all about PUA; thus seeing myself as doing EVERYTHING right because I would copy TV and sh!t. I did trust myself, I knew my talents were humor, and I knew who I was/what I'm here for. It's hard to see that your basically telling me I used to just act like some retard who knew how to game perfectly but didn't want to because I never knew the "real true me" like you apparently do. Just because you might have had natural game doesn't mean every single guy is born a MPUA like you; but I don't even think your a MPUA because they don't get as cocky and arrogant as you on a self-help forum. Learn empathy, or not, because if you learn it it wouln't be the real you and women will HATE that you had to LEARN it... now stop trolling and learn not everyone is BORN perfect like you think you are.
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I view your approach to “success” to be a fatally flawed one that will leave most men in this community either on the brink of failure or walking through it.
Yes yours will, but luckily some will read my post and see that learning is a natural part of life, you learn how to speak, how to walk, why not learn how to game girls? instead of being ignorant like dicklow whos acting like a kid not wanting to grow up, take advice from people who are more experience than you.

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when your not being yourself who the fuck are you--truth is you are allways being yourself* unless suffering from multi-personality* and being yourself wasnt getting any babes so you had to learn[and fake] something brand new called game in order to get babes--your original self was weighed, measured and found wanting thats why you came here to begin with.


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Worst advice I've ever gotten:

"Approach women from a 45 degree angle, with 20% higher energy level then them, make sure you open asking for an opinion and body rock so she thinks you don't like her."

Yeah, Mystery Method was the most sexless period of my life. :P

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when your not being yourself who the fuck are you--truth is you are allways being yourself* unless suffering from multi-personality* and being yourself wasnt getting any babes so you had to learn[and fake] something brand new called game in order to get babes--your original self was weighed, measured and found wanting thats why you came here to begin with.
-- This is especially true and well said!

being your old self + game - unattractive traits = new you who gets laid


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Yeah, Mystery Method was the most sexless period of my life. :P
Mystery Method is the Da Vinci plane prototype in today's world of modern hang-gliders.

Yeah, yeah, it's grand and it's full of innovations, but it doesn't fucking work. :)


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Has anybody ever asked a woman for advice on picking up/meeting women? Oh man it's the most shitty advice you will ever get. They seem to tell you everything they subconsiously hate a man to do. Basically the opposite to how to properly game them. Women are strange creatures who think they want one thing but give a better reaction when they dont get it.

Ask a girl how to meet a woman and she will say...

"Just be yourself"

"Just go up to her and ask if she wants a drink"

"Go and tell her you think she is pretty and ask for her number"

"Be confident".... You can't just BE confident!!!

Also I just watched a video by Gambler, one of the lines hes used was look her up and down and say "you look different??... have you shaved your pussy?"

I haven't used it in field yet but I'm not getting my hopes up :?

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Has anybody ever asked a woman for advice on picking up/meeting women? Oh man it's the most shitty advice you will ever get. They seem to tell you everything they subconsiously hate a man to do. Basically the opposite to how to properly game them. Women are strange creatures who think they want one thing but give a better reaction when they dont get it.

Ask a girl how to meet a woman and she will say...

"Just be yourself"

"Just go up to her and ask if she wants a drink"

"Go and tell her you think she is pretty and ask for her number"

"Be confident".... You can't just BE confident!!!

Also I just watched a video by Gambler, one of the lines hes used was look her up and down and say "you look different??... have you shaved your pussy?"

I haven't used it in field yet but I'm not getting my hopes up :?
http://www.imagechan.com/img/17921/impr ... posite-sex
That's all I can say to this...

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You perceived yourself as having no success so you had no success, don't blame it on "being yourself" because you weren't being yourself at all. Being yourself is knowing who you truly are, trusting yourself, and knowing your talents. If you know these three things then you will be successful in anything you try in life, guaranteed. Developing a fake coffee lounge or football buff personality isn't required for success with women. I am just letting you know this.
I didn't perceive myself as anything, if you actually read what I said instead of trolling you'd see I said I didn't know anything at all about PUA; thus seeing myself as doing EVERYTHING right because I would copy TV and sh!t. I did trust myself, I knew my talents were humor, and I knew who I was/what I'm here for. It's hard to see that your basically telling me I used to just act like some retard who knew how to game perfectly but didn't want to because I never knew the "real true me" like you apparently do. Just because you might have had natural game doesn't mean every single guy is born a MPUA like you; but I don't even think your a MPUA because they don't get as cocky and arrogant as you on a self-help forum. Learn empathy, or not, because if you learn it it wouln't be the real you and women will HATE that you had to LEARN it... now stop trolling and learn not everyone is BORN perfect like you think you are.
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I view your approach to “success” to be a fatally flawed one that will leave most men in this community either on the brink of failure or walking through it.
Yes yours will, but luckily some will read my post and see that learning is a natural part of life, you learn how to speak, how to walk, why not learn how to game girls? instead of being ignorant like dicklow whos acting like a kid not wanting to grow up, take advice from people who are more experience than you.
Trolling? Your the one who said that he had to change him self to impress women. If guys follow this format they'll fail for sure. But again, this foolishness is not worth addressing.


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"wine and dine them" :roll:

What a waste of money.

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"wine and dine them" :roll:

What a waste of money.
Lol your avatar looks like Leonoid Brehznev


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thinking this is pick up and not just talking to girls

wanting to be a pick up artist at some point

being cocky when I already have ridiuclously high value

Always have a better answer and solve shit tests.


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"wine and dine them" :roll:

What a waste of money.
Lol your avatar looks like Leonoid Brehznev
It is Brehznev, the dirty old fart :wink:

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