Right i'm just shooting it out there to see if you guys have any solutions. Lately i've broken out of my rutt and i've gotten back out there and I feel like i'm getting better every time. The only closes I have gotten recently are through the amount of social proof i've build and women will come to me and i've not had to build any attraction really.

So the problem is that I am great at building rapport, I can have a good conversation and find interests but the thing i'm having trouble with is phase shifting to the attraction part. It's a bit of a sticking point and a couple times i've attempted to build attraction and i've lost the target.

Some people say to build attraction with rapport the minute you meet them but any of you got any other ideas? It seems I used to have trouble even opening and now this is an annoying hurdle.

Thoughts?

i had the same problem. building rapport and relating too early doesnt really get anywhere.

start off with attraction which is a balance of positive and negative validation. then build rapport later when you have done enough attraction and want to escalate things more deeply and seriously.

Mickey is right its always attraction before rapport, most AFC's do it exactly backwards, try to trade supplication for affection, which never works, except to put you in the good guy friend zone..

What I found helpful is to remain cocky, funny, teasing neg'ing, and non-supplicating until she shows sufficient interest. At this point you can keep that up or now give some minor rapport. What you will find is that you will lose more girls on the front end with this method but the ones who stick around will be better closing prospects, this effect is what you are looking for so don't be scared to have more chicks bail on you as a sexually aggressive male.

I find that some girls it's one way, and other girls it's the other way around. I'd love to know real statistics.