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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:39 pm 
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i met a girl and have been talking to her for almost a month now, we txt each other pretty much everyday and hang out a couple times a week for about a half hour (on lunch breaks) but have also hung out for longer periods outside that, just less frequently.
it all looks like its leading toward a relationship (just the general vibe, meeting parents etc) but i am struggling to get even a kiss from her.
2 weeks ago we kissed at my place and it sucked. i thought it was my fault and so acknowledged that it was a bad kiss thinking it would lessen some tension, anyway that was 2 weeks ago and we havent kissed since?! wtf? like we cuddle and shit like that, will kiss each other on the neck forehead cheeks lips etc but no makeout.
2 dates we have been on since the kiss at mine she pulled away when i went to kiss her and before you say it i tried the "be the man and take what you want" thing by pulling her in by the hips holding her close and going in for it, she reciprocated but pulled away after about 2 seconds.
im going to her place saturday night to watch movies. anyone got some advice for me?

note: i should definately start escalating earlier in the night, but we are often somewhere public or near her parents.

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She sounds just a tad prude...

I would honestly make a comment on it.. Like " is that the best you got :)" after she pulls away too early..

Keep pushing forward, you'll get there..

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Thats good, I will do that if she pulls away again. I'm just going to make an effort to isolate her (from her family as they will be home) and push for it earlier in the night

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She sounds just a tad prude...

I would honestly make a comment on it.. Like " is that the best you got :)" after she pulls away too early..

Keep pushing forward, you'll get there..
Agree with Fuze, keep pushing forward to the point where she has to either go with it or full on reject you.


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Instead of going all cavemen, like the gentlemen above have suggested, why don't you try a different approach?

Initiate the kiss, but let her guide it. Seems to be she's not very comfortable with your kissing technique, and perhaps if it was given to her to guide the action, she might be more willing to do it.

Kiss her and then follow her lead. No one's gonna think any less of you for that. And you might even get to enjoy an uninterrupted kissing session that you've been wanting for so long.

Also, I'd suggest you search for "DiCarlo Escalation Ladder", download that pdf and try to follow the stages of escalation mentioned. It gives a basic plan and makes it easy to segue into kissing and afterwards.

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Woah, just because i said keep pushing, doesn't mean i meant do it in a caveman fashion. I agree with what you said in the above post, following her lead is great, but you still have to take the lead and make the next move.


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personally id show lack of interest after she pulls away, this will build up a lot of tension and make her feel bad too, this will then more than likely make her initiate the kiss rather than you.

Also, when you do kiss her, just do the exact opposite of how u kissed her last time, so if you used ur tongue and such, dont this time, and let her guide it, just like Cool Hand Luke said, then use that experience do adapt how she kisses and use it for future reference.

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personally id show lack of interest after she pulls away, this will build up a lot of tension and make her feel bad too, this will then more than likely make her initiate the kiss rather than you.
Like a freezeout


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personally id show lack of interest after she pulls away, this will build up a lot of tension and make her feel bad too, this will then more than likely make her initiate the kiss rather than you.
I really don't think making her feel bad is necessary at all. Instead of making her feel bad, you want to know that she has two options, hooking up with you and getting physical, or nothing at all. Don't get stuck in that annoying in between path, because that will inevitably turn into nothing.


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I'm on my way to her place now, I'm gunna feel the situation before I decide what I'm gunna do, will let you guys know.

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saftey, you just gave yourself the best advice. Thread successful, haha.


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personally id show lack of interest after she pulls away, this will build up a lot of tension and make her feel bad too, this will then more than likely make her initiate the kiss rather than you.
I really don't think making her feel bad is necessary at all. Instead of making her feel bad, you want to know that she has two options, hooking up with you and getting physical, or nothing at all. Don't get stuck in that annoying in between path, because that will inevitably turn into nothing.
Doing what i said will do exactly that, leaving her two options, of to either kiss u and let it lead on or to drop everything...

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Agreed, but you don't have to do it in a high pressure guilt trip way.

Make whatever option she picks, fine for you.


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Alright so it's all sorted just to let you guys know. The other day she asked me where we were going (on a relationship level) and I just said well I can't answer that until you tell me why you dont kiss me.
She said she didn't want her dad to see or hear or whatever which j guess is why she kissed me at my house buy not hers.

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