I tried to find another thread about this, but did not, so here it comes:

How do you sarge in clubs where the music is so loud that you hardly communicate with words? It is practically impossible to open groups, because nobody can hear what you are saying unless you scream close to their ears. Talking to women in such areas are really annoying. I have practically never gotten any rapport with a girl in such loud music environments.

This is frustrating me a lot...

Haha Location: Brisbane!

I can relate to you. Ive been there and sometimes its ridiculous.

The truth is you cant talk over it. So opening sets with conversation goes out the window. So you gotta find other ways and adapt. I just focus on the target.

Dancing game is one way. with this you just dance with the girl, and the most youll need to do to get a kiss is ask her name what she does.

Direct game is another, with a real emphasis on body language, and its great because since you need to be really close to talk in eachothers ears, you can use stealth seduction techniques (youtube it) and alottt of kino to your advantage.

So in ways it can be an advantage by making it simpler.

When it comes to really getting to know her you will have to lead her to a quieter spot in the club or outside for a smoke... for some good one on one time!

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Thanx for great reply.
I saw some stealth seduction by Gambler on youtube. I will take a closer look.

Brisbane has a lot of good places when you are drunk, but when it comes to talking to people it's worse!

You've really got to enjoy the loud SPAM for it to work for you in noisy clubs. If you're annoyed because you're trying to hard to hear what everyone is saying, you're most likely doing it wrong.

It's got to feel natural, like you don't need to hear what they're saying, and body language and facial expressions are all enough.

If you think about it in terms of the Love Systems triad... you'll work in this order:

Physical
Logistical
Emotional

i.e. Touch her, move her to a quieter place, then build comfort.

Always be working on at least one of the three, but since emotional takes words, and you can't just grab her and move her, you are left with no choice but to begin with physical.

As stated above, dancing, touching, and body language (eye contact, smirk, etc.) are your starting blocks for loud clubs.

Thanx guys, what you are saying make a lot of sense. Yesterday I saw a perfect example on how to pick up girls on the dancefloor. You just have to get them out of there to a more quiet place. If the noise is everywhere, it makes sence to focus more on body language, dancing and touching.