Thanks LD, I try to include pua terms in my posts so others can relate to my writing. I personally do not use these terms in my speech or when i think. I dont sarge, i spit game or game women. I appreciate the advice though, i felt myself starting to think in these terms and this makes me realize i have to stop. Be more fluid and stop overthinking.. Good idea.

Btw, for my last few posts, i have been extremely busy lately because of exams and papers. I am in college lol. but most of the quotes are writings that i do not think i could write as well myself. I just lack their experience.

thanks for the heads up LD, ill try to structure my new posts more like the beginning. Any topics i have not covered yet that you think are important? i am always looking for more material.

J Slay

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J slay.

Day game is my only option. There is no 'night game' for me. I have few friends and few 'connections'
Going around my dorm, Its too late being the middle of the year and everyone keeps their door closed and I cant seem to think of way of doing it without coming off weird or creepy: "hey, I just wanted to knock on your door and introduce myself" "why?" "because i need friends."

Day game is crappy too.
My FR: "hey I just wanted to know your name?"
"[name here]. why?"
"oh, i just wanted to know your name... is that weird?"
"ummmmm....." (not a funny or impressed, just neutral, a little weirded out)
I ran away

And I may possibly bump into her again. In which case, Ive taken to acting like I dont see them.

Fraternities and parties arent my scene really. Sure, Id love to if everything was chill and fun but honestly in most scenarios Id be a fish out of water feeling weird as crap as Ive never gone to a party before in my life (except one which was horrible as I just stood around while everyone talked in groups then I left. Is it really my fault no one went up to me and initiated? I did initiate a couple times but then they just went away)

Now hold up... what is my goal? Hmmm honestly Ive never thought about this too much before.
Let me concretely describe it, so I get an idea myself.....
My goals:
I want to gain confidence in myself by talking to attractive women and becoming their friends. I dont give a shit about F closes or any of that. # close is the only thing Im slightly interested of. Plus it gives me happiness talking to girls. It just does.
Problem: I guess it's that theres very few legit noncreepy avenues for me to do so. The best time seems to be during the day as I see so many beautiful beautiful girls walking around. Yet this sometimes borders on the line of "will this come off creepy? will i get a reputation?" As I am not really hitting on them but I kind of am as the only legit reason I can give to sound noncreepy must convey that I am interested in some way "Hi I thought you looked adorable"
I guess my goal is to make friends with attractive girls? Is that wrong? superficial? honestly it may be a little but it's really not that bad. I want to surround myself with good quality girls (inside and out) a bad personality is a zero for me.

I guess you could say making guy friends and friends with not attractive girls will expand my social circle with the multiplier effect and help a lot.
Honestly, I dont know. A lot of guys are just these beefy white guys who go to the gym and party and there doesnt seem to be a connection. Am I being too picky with my friends? A lot of people I meet Im like "this person is just low value" or "hes meh, like an acquaintance. pretty chill but no real connection like a best friend. kind of boring a little" Ive tried chatting up random guys in class to make friends but this is what happens. :/

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Peel,

It seems to me that you have inner game issues. It seems that your inner game is not solid, and that is why your circle of friends is lacking. If you dont have confidence in yourself, no one else will. I know it is late in going around your dorm but you dont need to knock on the door, you can just go to the common room and hang out. have popcorn and ask people if they would like some. easy opener, friendly and non aggressive.

I recommend just trying to be social and not necessarily game girls right away. Work on your social interactions and mental state so that when you start seriously gaming girls you are in the right frame.

For day game, go off campus for the moment because as you learn, you dont want to make a fool out of yourself. until your inner game is sorted out, this is the best option.

But First off - your opener stinks. You need to be friendly and indirect on campus until your inner game is mastered. Ask her a question about directions, time, food etc. One time i did a "survey" on the plaza and just picked up chicks after i asked one question for my "survey" lol. I initially did direct game on campus because i didnt know better. My inner game is solid so it can be effective but when i switched over to indirect game, my success rate skyrocketed from 33% #close to 75% #close. SO? i recommend fixing your inner game and practice, practice, practice.

Why do you not like parties? Do you not know anyone there, you dont like drinking or ? You need to become used to it because it is how the majority of people socialize on weekends - parties, bars, clubs, etc. Unless you want to restrict yourself to only day game, you are missing a big opportunity to meet people. This lack of night game is limiting a whole aspect of the experience of college from your game and your life. College is about partying and if its not your thing, figure out something cool to do on the weekends. My Friend is the director of a concert club and plays in a band at the local lounge. He gets mad hipster pussy lol. Figure out your thing and become the social master of that thing.

Peel, It is your fault for not initiating, no one wants to talk to the creeper in the corner. You need to act like you own the floor, you are the best looking guy there...in other terms = ALPHA. inorder to do this, you need to work on your inner game and body language.

If you are having trouble, Make friends with whoever you can. You need to socialize otherwise you will get depressed and sink into a hole you cant climb out of without help. trust me i know personally. WIth the friends you have, just socialize and practice proper conversation tactics so that you can learn to hold a conversation, flow with topics, joke around and talk bullshit. WIth the girl friends, practice flirting. AFter becoming good freinds, You can even tell them that you want to practice flirting and they WILL help!

Please Dont be too picky tho, no one is perfect and no one is exactly like you. Enjoy the uniqueness of each person and collaboratively you can be a good group of friends. Proximity has been proven to be the greatest factor in friendship. So Find people in your major and your dorm for friends. Talk about things you all like, umm, for example, WOMEN! lol. Dudes love talking and shooting the shit about females. Girls love drama. Tell your own funny stories and hear their own funny stories from high school, camp or wherever.

Dude, Humans have the need to reciprocate. Invite prospective friends to eat some food you just bought, chips and salsa or whatnot. To watch the football game, basically to do something fun. Then get lunch and dinner with them, and eventually do things together frequently. Get to the point where they are comfortable with you and can trust you. then they will invite you to hang out with them, reciprocating all the effort you put in. You are now in the circle of friends.

And with the girls, guys want to be friends with attractive girls generally. But you cant do that until you can socialize properly. I recommend befriending and gaming not as attractive women until your inner game, body language and pua skills have improved.

Hope i can help bro.

J Slay

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Thanks
Ill keep you updated
And I only not like parties and social things because Im left there alone while everyones talking in groups and I feel like I shouldnt be there. Lately, Ive changed a bit and started initiating convos a bit more. If it werent for that, parties would be pretty cool

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Oh and Im curious about the BJ thing. You dont have to go into too much detail but just wondering how you did it with 3 different girls in what seems like a one day span?

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Well, topics that are interesting vary from person to person.

I prefer dancegame, natural and C&F.. because that fits my personality. There are people here on the forum that are KJ's and are writing guides which are placed in this topic. Watch out with that.

A lot of it is misguided information, don't post or quote stuff of people that don't have the experience to back it up or rather, of which you haven't tried it to a full extend.

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What are KJs?

Good call LD, However, The posts i did quote, i found very true in most aspects of my life and college game. That is why i quoted them.

Right now i plan on reviewing those old posts and discussing them further. To Fully flesh out my own ideas about those topics in college terms.

Well what parties are you going to? are there people dancing, playing drinking games? the easiest way ive found to make friends with randoms at parties is by drinking with them, playing beer pong, flipcup and other games. this way they see you as normal, as one of them. During the games, you can joke and get to kno them better, guys and girls. get to kno the guys so they introduce you to their friends who might also be hot girls. also if they dont have girls with them, you can go sarge with them to find new chicks. Ive done this quite often

OR bring some friends with you, one or two so that you wont feel as uncomfortable. They could be your Wingmen too
Dude i must have a similar style to LD, I am cocky funny, mostly natural and i love dancing. I wanted to get drunk that weekend and i did. When im drunk, i act CF and natural, so i probs spit alot of drunk game. I dont even remember the third blowjob but the girl told me she gave me one LOL. The BJs were over a two day span and i just spit CF, natural game and danced with the girls. (i am a good dancer so that is a dhv).

The lack of details was because i was drunk. sorry bro. but i discussed how i escalate with her to get a BJ in one of my posts.

*My next post is going to be how to build up your inner game and become alpha on a college campus*


J Slay

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Thanks. Im gonna try joining some clubs and stuff Im interested in. What do you think about this Yoga club? It's like 99-100% girls, its at the gym and you just sit there and do yoga on mats with the instructor up front. There are similar ones like cardio boxing and stuff. May turn awkward though, like "why are you here?"

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dude, go fix your inner game first before you go into a class of only girls. I have good inner game and even i cant do that. you will probably be intimidated by the sheer quantity of pussy, revert to an AFC and potentially ruin your reputation. I wish you luck if you want to try it tho, it takes alot of cajones to do that.

i recommend Go to the gym and hit on the girls who workout there, or meet girls at the local cafe, But definitely do not join a college yoga class til you become better.

Good luck peel

J Slay

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Hey guys,

I have been talking about inner game quite often here in my thread. I started writing a post about inner game and how to get better. slowly it turned into a larger article than i first intentioned. AFter it was completed, i realized that it was important not just for college pua, but everyone as well.

So i made my inner game post its own thread. inner-game-vt120557.html?highlight= I hope you guys read it and enjoy it.

Party tip - Dont be the only drunk person. Dont be the only sober person.

J Slay

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Hey guys,

I would like to thank everyone who has followed my thread. I appreciate the support. I realize that some of you want to see the actual application of all these ideas in a college setting. I started a college field report thread for my successes and failures. Here is the link. j-slays-college-field-reports-vt120670.html?highlight= I will try to write in it every weekend or as often as possible.

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In the past i have detailed what i believe are the 5 most overall important aspects of college game. Aspects that will make you a more well-rounded person besides from specifically being good at night or day game.

Here they are:
- inner game
- mid game / conversational skills
- body language / clothing
- social proof / reputation
- escalating / being sexual

I plan on discussing these 5 topics in more depth in my upcoming posts. My previous post about inner game was the first installment in the series. Next up is mid game.

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Here is the link

here-vp562049.html#562049


J Slay

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Damn, I wish i wouldve seen this sooner bro. I'm also in a frat (sophomore year). I feel like i really need to develop my PU when im normally surrounded by real hot sorority girls and guys that have been picking up girls since middle school. Definitely gonna have to keep in touch with this since its so similar to my story/trouble. What fraternity are you in btw?

Here is the third installment in my 5 most overall important aspects of game.

This is body language and clothing.

body-language-in-pua-vt121099.html?highlight=

hope you enjoy

J Slay

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Dude alot of people have trouble at frat parties. You are surrounded my alpha males and you may be a small fish in a big pond. This has caused me to be at a higher energy level at parties because sorority girls like the guy who is always having fun or the life of the party.

Also, getting really drunk is alot of fun, but it leads to bad decisions and sometimes bad/ugly hookups. If you just get a buzz, you will be more coherent when gaming the girls.

and dont run canned routines often or at all. If you do use them on multiple girls, and they talk amongst themselves quite often, then you may get a reputation that you do not want to have.

I do not want to disclose my fraternity on the forum, but if you want to pm me, Id be glad to discuss greek life.

Many frat parties become drunk dance parties, learn up on the dance game and have good sexual logistics - ie how are you getting her to your room. ITs so easy if you live in the frat castle and can just bring her upstairs.

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I wanted to discuss DANCE GAME and its logistics.

I often have trouble bringing girls from the dancefloor, where i am grinding and kissing them, to my bedroom.

I talked with Chief last night on the chat and he and others recommended making "leaving" normal, so that when you "leave" to go to your bedroom, it does not seem out of nowhere.

For example: Find girl on dancefloor, number and kiss close. How do you bring her off the dancefloor?

"Hey, lets go get a drink"

"Hey, lets go back to the dancefloor"

"Hey, lets go get some fresh air"

"Hey, lets go back to our table / some place / beer pong / etc"

"Hey, Lets go dance again"

"Hey, Lets go to my room / take shots / some reason to bring her back to your room / etc"

and so on and so forth

Its similar to the theory that if you bring her to multiple places, it makes it seem that you know each other for longer than you actually do. It also normalizes the leaving and going to new places, which is exactly what you want.

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College tip of the day - If you give a chick a sweatshirt, dont expect it back.

J Slay

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Hey I just stumbled upon this thread and I like it! Perhaps I will post some field reports here. I noticed that I dont usually have a problem actually opening, I just don't seem to have much motivation for some reason. I think part of it is that I had a hard time seeing myself as sexual, and still working on that. I'm sure girls see me in a sexual way sometimes, but I don't seem to notice it very well, even when its apparent. I figure with decent looks and what I think is a fun personality there's gotta be soem attraction somewhere. I just gotta act on it.

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