I could really do with some help on this one...

To summarise, i'm really good at #closing and k-closing. Approaching and building attraction during the night isn't a problem.

The problem is for every 10 girls i #close or k-close, i'd only get a day 2 out of one of them. The whole "buyers remorse" thing seems to be killing me.

I've tried to plan future "dates...etc" with them on the night, no success. I've tried added them on Facebook, to get some sort of "chat" going, and had limited success.

It seems like the girls wake up the next day feeling guilty/regret and then it never goes any further...

Help please!

you could start by "reflecting" what are the things that you've done that might have prevented the day 2s

_________________
Visit Us at Beyond Pick Up | PUA philippines
Main Site: http://BeyondPickUp.net
Forum: http://beyondpickup.net/forum/
Facebook Groups: http://www.facebook.com/groups/124079707667915
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/BeyondPickUp

Stop kissing in the club. Build massive sexual tension but don't actually kiss them. Then pull them HOME and only start kissing once you're actually in a position to take things all the way.

_________________
SEX Technique Material http://bit.ly/iFdky0

FREE PDF w Openers, Date ideas and Videos on Direct: http://www.sashapua.com

I have this exact same problem. Even if the girl is really into me on the night, she'll still flake. I've had a girl tell me I'm a good kisser, and give me her number without me asking for it. And yet she still flaked. I think its because of my dire phone game. Anybody got any tips? How many days to wait, how often to text, what to text etc?

Normally I text them the day after, around mid day. I play very direct game which seems to impress girls on the night. I tell her I like her and want to see her again. She says sure. We organise to hang out 3/4 days later. I give her a text each day around night time b4 the date. Nothing needy or long, just a quick hello to keep me in her mind. Normally they just flake.

what I am trying now is doing it more afc adam style.
Like every saturday having a cool club and inviting multiple woman to party, all adding them on facebook for later game etc, always also gaming new woman at the club, etc.

Before we go out we have a pre party at my best friend amazing flat.
And I often try to mix direct and indirect in different situations (and on different girls) to see what works.

I am quite good on the phone now, but my current sticking point is more the facebook chat. I call almost any situation, but sometimes chat is also a good option.

btw do you use qualification a lot, like "are you are you adventurous?" or similar...

I might try the stop kissing in the club method.

The thing is, when i'm out getting a k-close is the minimum i'd expect off myself so by not getting that, i'd feel odd!

What things can i do/say during the night to stop them flaking and get a day 2?

this always happens to me aswel the seem intrested so much then u try and get them out and they flake i have no idea what im doing wrong

I'm still having this problem.

Last night for example, met a girl, spent about 4 hours with her. She even left her mates to hang around with me! We swapped numbers and i phoned her as i was walking home, where we discussed that we'd both like to see each other again.

I texted her this morning, got a reply, sent another one back ending with "Have you got any fun plans for the week?". I was kinda expecting a reply then i was gonna suggest we do something. But i got no reply!

I was hoping to find a solution but it's still a massive problem i need to overcome.

This is a crappy problem folks. Something I noticed about the vibe of this post. One thing in common from all the men is that the women give them the vibe that they are too good for them which is opposite of the usual problem of having the pussy on a pedistal problem.

The women is into the man. The man calls texts can not get a date 2.

Does the women view him as sexy?
Does the women see his as a commitment type of man or something else?

These are things we should think about as men.

anyway that is my take on what happens to me. This is subtle rejection but rejection none the less. I would love to change this about myself. Someone put my head in the right place. pls

_________________
Don't forget the ones, that helped make me, the man I like becoming!

I'm playing around with lots of different combinations at the minute. I normally get around 4 numbers on a Weekend, I've narrowed my game down and I'm trying to focus on 8's 9's ad 10's. I'm getting flakes all over the place. I used to do the same thing you guys did, txt them the next day. I believe this is a major problem.
So what I've decided to do is this, when I number close I'm making it clear that I'm going to ring them in the week to arrange to go out. I also give them a missed call to make sure they have my number so I don't get the usual 'who's this', it'll put you on the back foot from the beginning. Im going to give it 3 or 4 days before I call too.
I'll keep you posted with my progress.

Im gonna throw some quick pointers from personal experience:

1- in general, k-closing is not gonna make a day 2 harder, its just diferent. When you set a day 2 with a girl you k-closed, what do you think she thinks YOU are expecting from day 2? TO HAVE SEX. She will reflect about it and 90% of the times they will back up. How do you solve this problem?! I use 2 techniques:
a) I might kiss close, but i wont make out with her! I will kiss her if i see that she is realy into me, and then i will back up saying something like "listen, im realy feeling you right now, idk how you managed to seduce me like this and im dieing to kiss you again, but i dont wanna put up a show for evey1 to see. Lets go back to our friends and cool off a little." show her that you like to keep things privite. Youre not there to show off, neither you have the necessity to make out. If you get a good connection with her, things in common etc, make a comment like "i wish we had met at a different place, seems like we could be talking for hours.". I suggest you turn into short convo, more playfull, funny, party mood. Save the "deep convo" for day 2,
b) Personally, i dont make plans for day 2, instead, i let her take the lead. I KNOW you hear from most MPUA that man take the lead, etc... well, i use a different technique. I will send her a message saying "hey hey miss i love sushi 2011 (whatever she told you she liked, or that you guys had in common), feel free to invite me out sometime this week ... nothing fancy! coffee sounds fine to me (on you )". Analyse this sentense: im making it her call, not putting pressure on her. Im showing that i remember something she told me she liked (sushi). Im getting rid of the buyers remorce by suggesting something quick and simple as coffee. Also, its not like you are inviting her to something that realated to "getting laid" (unless she gets turned on by caffeine or something lol). Another thing i like to do, but not as the first txt message. lets say that we are txting, so i tell her "i got to go to barnes and noble to grab this book (or ikea to grab something for my house) sometime this week. If you wanna make me company let me know. IKEA and B&N always have coffeeshops inside, and as geeky as it might sound, its alot of fun (if youre wondering how, ask me and i will explain! i have never failed with B&N or IKEA "date")

_________________
Im not a player... im a winner!