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hey don,

in new here but im natural with the opposite sex. I've been in a relationship the past 3 years so im a little rusty and could really use some expert advise :)

Basically myself and this chick (she has a bf but its ending) hooked up while out with mutual friends. So physically we're quite familiar with each other, and the texting is going fine I just dont know how to arrange the next meet up.

HB: ah just had my first driving lesson, I'm a pro now ;-)

Me: Mario Kart doesnt count but you make a great princess peach ;-P Wonder if your qualified for gokarting yet! [-:

HB: Hey i was doing real grown up driving :-P But i would like to be princess peach :-) were ya working away in college today??

Me: Nah just chillin with ma dawg luigi! Just outa interest u need rescuing anytime soon? ;-)

HB: Aw if you mean like an actual animal dog them im so jealous :-( emm not till like the 16th Dec and after Im afriad ;-)


The last txt was sent last night, I havent replied since.


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[quote="somonyrue"]I recently met a girl at a party and I got her number, and last thursday I went on a date with her and sure it didn't went all to well nor to bad. However the issue is that she rarely answer on sms and when she does it's usually just a very short message but when I met her in reality she is very social and she's also social whenever you call her.
So should I still send her messages? She never send the "first" message but she is quite shy.[/quote]


I have lot's of numbers, the main poit is not a number, text or call, who call 1st and when to call or how to call, it's not to ask for a job. it's the same like you are calling to a friend, if what you have met wore a dude you don't even ride this question in the first place, calling, texting , this things dosen't escalet your attraction they are just there to communicate important things¨! specally calling/texting for a first time the point is you should use those staffe to fix an appointment. if you used to texting each other she keep you as her text friend for a while, and if by any mence can happen one day you will blow it up like that by such text, and this happens a lot. texting creat missundrestanding if you not used it for an appointment. then it's over forever. fix an appointment and with out playing far more.
then she come, do not kino her on 1st date , bring an intersting topic and hit it, make sure it's intersting, then wait for escalation see the signal, if not don't don't even try some thing to touch her.

Her mind should stimulat enough before you even try to touch her, you will know this moment she will show you don't force YOUR SELF in order to play the game right, the Game is in you, you don't need to think about any routin relax and keep doing things with out feeling afread. a touchy guy usally pridict some kind of player in womens view, don't let her know that, in a main time by avoiding those staffe you demonstrear DHV, this is it!!!! the rest i can't tell you, BUT i let you imagen...

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ah sweet thanks for the advice but we did set a date but prior to the text game because she is in my class i was able to build comfort over a number of days, but now there is a little while before we would see eachother and was wanting to know if i should text her to keep her thinking of me, thanks


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hey don,

in new here but im natural with the opposite sex. I've been in a relationship the past 3 years so im a little rusty and could really use some expert advise :)

Basically myself and this chick (she has a bf but its ending) hooked up while out with mutual friends. So physically we're quite familiar with each other, and the texting is going fine I just dont know how to arrange the next meet up.

HB: ah just had my first driving lesson, I'm a pro now ;-)

Me: Mario Kart doesnt count but you make a great princess peach ;-P Wonder if your qualified for gokarting yet! [-:

HB: Hey i was doing real grown up driving :-P But i would like to be princess peach :-) were ya working away in college today??

Me: Nah just chillin with ma dawg luigi! Just outa interest u need rescuing anytime soon? ;-)

HB: Aw if you mean like an actual animal dog them im so jealous :-( emm not till like the 16th Dec and after Im afriad ;-)


The last txt was sent last night, I havent replied since.
Well, let me just start by saying that you seem to be a bit more into the know-how of "how to text women", than most people who post in my thread. So, well done.

Now, to the query..

Firstly, you need to have a long conversation. You will never be able to built the comfort needed to ask her out, if you keep sending her two or three messages a day and just drop off the conversation somewhere in between.

So, here's a little exercise, for the next two or three days, have some long, fun, deep conversations with her. Keep teasing her sometimes, keep joking with her sometimes and sometimes just have a serious discussion. Then, at the end of the third day, ask her out for a coffee/drinks, whichever you'd prefer (Personally, I'd say coffee) and well, see her answer.

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I recently met a girl at a party and I got her number, and last thursday I went on a date with her and sure it didn't went all to well nor to bad. However the issue is that she rarely answer on sms and when she does it's usually just a very short message but when I met her in reality she is very social and she's also social whenever you call her.
So should I still send her messages? She never send the "first" message but she is quite shy.

I have lot's of numbers, the main poit is not a number, text or call, who call 1st and when to call or how to call, it's not to ask for a job. it's the same like you are calling to a friend, if what you have met wore a dude you don't even ride this question in the first place, calling, texting , this things dosen't escalet your attraction they are just there to communicate important things¨! specally calling/texting for a first time the point is you should use those staffe to fix an appointment. if you used to texting each other she keep you as her text friend for a while, and if by any mence can happen one day you will blow it up like that by such text, and this happens a lot. texting creat missundrestanding if you not used it for an appointment. then it's over forever. fix an appointment and with out playing far more.
then she come, do not kino her on 1st date , bring an intersting topic and hit it, make sure it's intersting, then wait for escalation see the signal, if not don't don't even try some thing to touch her.

Her mind should stimulat enough before you even try to touch her, you will know this moment she will show you don't force YOUR SELF in order to play the game right, the Game is in you, you don't need to think about any routin relax and keep doing things with out feeling afread. a touchy guy usally pridict some kind of player in womens view, don't let her know that, in a main time by avoiding those staffe you demonstrear DHV, this is it!!!! the rest i can't tell you, BUT i let you imagen...
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Please be more careful next time about where you are posting. Someone else might miss out on your constructive input that way.

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ah sweet thanks for the advice but we did set a date but prior to the text game because she is in my class i was able to build comfort over a number of days, but now there is a little while before we would see eachother and was wanting to know if i should text her to keep her thinking of me, thanks
Well, then I think it just is a lot of maintaining consistency here as compared to "increasing attraction". Go to the date and physically escalate here, and then see where that takes you.

And you're always welcome for more questions.

Good luck.

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thanks but what do you mean consistency, should i text her or wait and if so how should i text her to maintain consistency?


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Ok, here is my situation. Sorry if its kinda long. There is this girl i have been talking to the last few months. I was actually good friends with her brother years ago when we were in high school, but i had not seen her in about 8 years. So we exchanged quite a few emails on FB then we went to texting for a little while till I asked her out. I ended up taking her out and I thought it went pretty well considering my one mess up... i showed up about 10 minutes late for the date because I had wrong directions to her house. Well anyway I ended up asking her out again a couple days later and she replied with.. "sure we can hang out as friends." I assumed I blew my shot at that point and figured I would move on. But we have been texting each other almost every day over the past few months. I have been wanting to try to ask her out one more time but both of our schedules have been really bad so i was kind of waiting for a good time. So the other day I decided to give it a try. I texted her and told her I would still really like to take her out again and I kinda cracked a joke about me showing up late(im thinking that mighta not been smart) and i joked about how bad the movie we watched was. She replies with "next time chick flick".... So im thinking I got a yes out of her then she texts me again and says that shes not sure if I would show up on time. Then after that the conversation kinda died out. I didnt really get a yes or a no from her. Im wondering how I should handle this? Someone told me even though I didnt get a yes it was good because I made it clear that I wanted to be more than friends. Should I ask her again and if so how should I do it and how soon? Thanks


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thanks but what do you mean consistency, should i text her or wait and if so how should i text her to maintain consistency?
Wait.

Take a deep breath.

Stop over-analyzing.

Everything that you've done till this point has paid off in the way that she agreed to a date with you. In other words, you haven't really set off any red flags in your attraction process. I find that there is no need to tamper with it. Keep doing what you are doing now and escalate at the date.

That's all.

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Ok, here is my situation. Sorry if its kinda long. There is this girl i have been talking to the last few months. I was actually good friends with her brother years ago when we were in high school, but i had not seen her in about 8 years. So we exchanged quite a few emails on FB then we went to texting for a little while till I asked her out. I ended up taking her out and I thought it went pretty well considering my one mess up... i showed up about 10 minutes late for the date because I had wrong directions to her house. Well anyway I ended up asking her out again a couple days later and she replied with.. "sure we can hang out as friends." I assumed I blew my shot at that point and figured I would move on. But we have been texting each other almost every day over the past few months. I have been wanting to try to ask her out one more time but both of our schedules have been really bad so i was kind of waiting for a good time. So the other day I decided to give it a try. I texted her and told her I would still really like to take her out again and I kinda cracked a joke about me showing up late(im thinking that mighta not been smart) and i joked about how bad the movie we watched was. She replies with "next time chick flick".... So im thinking I got a yes out of her then she texts me again and says that shes not sure if I would show up on time. Then after that the conversation kinda died out. I didnt really get a yes or a no from her. Im wondering how I should handle this? Someone told me even though I didnt get a yes it was good because I made it clear that I wanted to be more than friends. Should I ask her again and if so how should I do it and how soon? Thanks
Well, I think you are too invested into the situation to look at it objectively.

She thinks of you as a friend. She's still holding on to the "sure we can hang out as friends." status quo. And don't women watch movies with their guy friends? I am pretty sure they do. The continuous texting between you both was just friendly conversation between two people. I can say that there was definitely not the slightest inch more to it than that. The arriving 10 minutes late was not the reason you got rejected, but it must have been due to something you said or something you did or something which she didn't like about it. There are a hundred reasons.

You should have frozen her out when she put you in the "friend zone" but you carried on ahead and got yourself so deep into the swamp, that everything below your neck is already engulfed. She does NOT see you as anything more than just a guy who she enjoys talking to. That's IT.

My advice to you, there are a lot of women in the world. Forget this one. Find another. And also, work on your game.

Good luck.

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You don't understand what I said. You have already been entrenched deeply into her "friends zone". Now, it is up to you to decide if you want to be her "friend" or her "special friend", the one who's basically a woman, but with a penis downstairs.

Basically, you need to cut off all sorts of "goody goody five hour convos" that you have with her. You need to be short, you need to be formal if you have to reply to her messages.

Another thing here is this, you DO NOT initiate any conversation with her, in text or in person. Sure, she will initially be confused, maybe even beg you to "tell me what's wrong with you", but don't buy into that shit. She's basically missing one person who validates her on a daily scale.

Read "am i a good company ?", "coz i thought im a boring girl :( ", she is basically screaming for validation. For you to say "Nooo honey, you're a riot! We all love ya! You're the life of every party" blah blah blah. If you really want to reply right say "If you think that way, I cannot help that." and leave it at it. No :P, No :(, No shit.

You need to make a decision here, you wanna be her "buddy" or her "lover". Cause you can be both, but NOT in your present state of mind or position.

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Don ! Good to see you back

Howl Zabimaru !!

I followed your suggestion and now she is asking why im being so cool to her lately. she text me and said she miss hanging out with me, miss talking to me and etc. lol

Should i continue to freeze her out ? :D

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Don ! Good to see you back

Howl Zabimaru !!

I followed your suggestion and now she is asking why im being so cool to her lately. she text me and said she miss hanging out with me, miss talking to me and etc. lol

Should i continue to freeze her out ? :D

Thanks and welcome back
It is good to hear from you, as well.

Well, it seems to me that you did take my advice to heart and mind, and it worked perfectly. Well done.

Now, from this point you need to telegraph interest, but in a way that you are saying you are not interested too. How to do that? Check this example.

Her: Why are you being so cold to me?
You: It's not my fault, (her name). I am attracted to you, but you've taken your stance and I need to remain objective. So, I have to keep you at arm's length.

You are pulling her in-then pushing her away. It's regular push-pull, in text.

Try things like that. Tell her something good, then take it away. She'll get confused as hell, but also attracted because you aren't outright open with your feelings.

Let me know how that goes.

Good luck.

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when we were by the side of here building
she stood Like she was waiting for something
I went for the kiss
after making out and groping for half an hour
Me: so now what?
HB: I don't know
Me: do you want to come with me to my flat or do you want us to go to your flat?
HB: my mom and brother are staying with me ?
Me: is your brother a meat head, Should I run?
HB: hahaha no he is only 12
bla bla bla
Me: Give my your number
HB:ok
All right, well, you did take a chance with going for the proverbial "home run", as they call it, but apparently, she wasn't feeling up to it.

Lack of comfort? Could be.

I have read The DiCarlo Escalation Ladder but I don't Play by the book 100% cause I have skipped some steps in the past and I was successful doing so .




HB:I really don't know :) , I wonder what's is the first thing

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this is what I how It went
Me: I wont tell you I am not that easy ;)
HB: Tell me..;)
ME:Oh no no , ;) my mom have warned from girls like you ;D
HB: what girls?
ME: girls who think can get anything by using their looks, anyway You'll have to earn it
HB: so what can I do to find out? :)
Me: let me hear your offer and I will think about it
HB: ok, I give up :) If you don't want to tell than don't
Me:I guess You will never know
HB: come on tell me , don't be so meen
Me:It's your hands
HB: Hands ? OK;)
Me:Yes. is it hard to believe? what's your favorite thing?
HB: Not hands ;)
Me:why not are they sweaty or something? :P


ME:Was with a friend and saw something that reminded me of you.
HB: what did you see?
ME: lil puppy wearing a sweater
HB: So you want to tell me that I look like a lil dog?! Which part of my body looks like a puppy :)
ME: Because it was cute. You're cute and I bet You got a lot of hot friends ;)
HB:Oh you are so sweet :) I also think that puppies are cute so I forgive you for that comparison ;) PS. Maybe not a lot of but... ;)

I am thinking about sending to her I glad she forgive even though I didn't Ask for it and I am happy to know that she is low-maintenance

or telling her that she should fix me up with the hottest that she got

thanks Don, I really appreciate your help .


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Hey Don good to see you're back!!

I got a few questions.. Hope it's readable as my English isn't that good.


There's this girl who I've made out with on 3 separate occasions (2 months ago when we were on holiday, haven't seen her since as we live pretty far away). We have been skyping and texting quite a bit but each time I text her I have the feeling I'm being too much of a 'friend' and I try to compensate that by not immediately answering her (sometime even waiting a day or 2) or by trying to create some distance.

We really had something nice going at first but it seems to be slowly dying as we text and SPAM less and less (although that's with ups and downs). Last saturday we had a nice conversation through texting but the next day I didn't really know what to send anymore so we haven't talked anymore since then.

It's probably really not helping we haven't met anymore either, we tried meeting a couple of times but due to circumstances of both sides it always failed so far...

Can I still turn this around? I think I really need to rebuild the attraction we had when we were together on holiday but so far I think I've been doing a pretty shitty job! Any advice would be much appreciated :)

ps: This probably sound stupid but on some occasions when I was going out without her and being pretty drunk I sent her some random messages with her name or heart emoticons, one time she said it was cute but another time she kind of ignored me some days after I did that. I've stopped sending texts when I'm drunk all together now because they probably do more harm than good anyway, is that correct? :p


Thanks for helping!!


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