So I went on a date tonight with this cutie I met off match. Opened her well on there, using a few of the pickup lines I got off her and things were moving along smoothly. We had to push our date back a week because of some medical problems in her family but went out tonight. Wound up going to dinner at Damon's because she wanted to meet in my hometown(halfway between where I live now and she lives) and there isn't shit to do there. It went alright, but that's it, lots of good chit chat but it seems like we didn't get anywhere. She wanted to do something after dinner so we went and hung out and talked over a few drinks at bar down the road. Had her in my car after but couldn't kiss close or anything. Told me, thanks, I had a good time at the end of the date, but that was it, so I'm guessing I won't hear back and don't expect to.

My problem is the more I read about being a PUA and methods, the more I wind up thinking about them and I think I just psych myself out. Like I should be fucking this girl right now but instead I crawl back into my shell and be a bitch. I'm honestly thinking of going to one of these Adam Lyons workshops or something so someone could get the dick out of my ass. I'm so convinced being the nice guy works because it worked in the past(or so I think, my ex left me after 2 years...)


Update...she does want to see me again

I can name at least three basic mistakes you made and I would bet money your never gonna get that second date despite what she just texted you to the contrary.

However you can get way better, don't beat yourself up or get bitter. Read some more material and more dating practice. Just keep stringing dates along as you grow and learn. I had 5 dates off match in 5 days and only 2 were marginally ok. I found OKC much better then match btw, but the main thing is too keep learning and not give up an dont give into bad moods.

I would go to that seminar if you can afford it, there is no downside.

Almost forgot to mention this, one thing I did that wasn't AFC. I've always payed for dinner in the past. She lied her card out with mine and told me to have the waitress split it. Usually, I would be like, I got this, but I went with it and she paid her part of the tab. If nothing happens, I came away not spending a cent on her!

ok at least we are down to only 2 major mistakes now, thanks for the addendum.

Ditto. Gonna start working on my inner game rather than routines.

Congrats on getting the date though, I always find that to be difficult on dating sites. Gonna start reading the advice on here

you should be working on inner and outter game together. Also I can recommend some good ebooks on edating if you want. I have no issues getting dates from online using these techniques.

However what is correct is that the process from AFC to PUA is a long and painful process thats gonan take time and dedication. Don't expect magic results, its going to take a shit-ton of work but you will get better.

Yeah, I have no problem getting dates online most of the time. However the problem around here is the quality on match isn't so great. There's only a handful of girls who really interest me on there. Like I go for an athletic girl who doesn't smoke, and that's just for starters, not into the mommas either. I just be myself usually but lately I've used some of the openers like the change your picture, monkey hunting and the how long it takes to do makeup and have gotten better returns.

A big problem I have is that a lot of these girls I go for are the quiet type. My ex was like that and so was the girl I went out with last night. I hate fucking loudmouth girls and wanna turn around and punch them haha. That's why I have a hard time knowing what they want. And listen to this, I didn't kiss my ex until near the end of our 3rd date. She actually later told me that it was something different because it had her guessing does he really like me like that or does he want to be friends? Haha have no idea way, that's why the game is so freaking crazy!

that's funny because I like loudmouth, ribald chicks, but when they get all like that i think of something i want to put in their mouth other then my fist.

Your right about the kissing thing, kino is way overdone on these forums. Not kissing a chick in many instances is the right thing to do from a tension-release perspective, maintaining frame, and intrigue. I never kiss chicks as a rule unless it is on the path to sex, or due to logistics in which I have to physically escalate them.

haha, well I admit that I am more of an introvert. The last girl I dated pretty much knew my life story by my 3rd date because she was so fucking annoying. Funny thing was at the end of my first date with her I could have fucked her in her car if I wanted to as she was all over me after a night at the casino. Maybe slow starts are good..