Well, well, where do I get started with this one? I'm sure all of you get annoyed by the barrage of noobs and desperate, pathetic high school students that come here seeking help, but I'm pretty sure my case is unlike any other. This is probably going to be a long read, but hopefully somebody will take the time to barrel through it and give me some assistance. (Additional details will be added to this thread if later necessary)

Okay. Well, I'm 17 years old and a senior in highschool. I live in a small southern town in North Carolina (population 3,234)...I grew up as the popular jock kid who was known for being on top in every sport and playing a fuckin' awesome electric guitar. This was me all the way up until my sophomore year.

It all started during literally the first week of my sophomore year. For some reason I can't explain, I started hanging with the wrong crowd. And by the wrong crowd I don't mean the kids who skip class to go shoot up heroin. I'm talking about the gamers and the computer faggots. Being the son of a IT manager and a keyboarding/programming teacher, it was hard to resist.

Well, I'm sure everybody knows how it is. You all know how cliques work. Computer kids and gamers are pretty much walking pussy repellent. Anyhow, being the first week and all, our school had just received some fresh new students from a nearby school. And not just students....these were some HB10's or whatever you want to call them. Not surprisingly, almost immediately they rose through the social ranks and became those popular cheerleader bitches who everybody wanted to fuck.

So...I'm not really sure precisely how it happened, but my new gamer friends and I decided to see if we could bring them down a notch or just get a laugh or two. On the 3rd day of meeting my new friends, a Friday, we all went home after school and got on SPAM together. I won't go into too much detail, because it's irrelevant at this point, but basically... we "hacked" into 8 or 9 myspace accounts...some were just popular kids, my old friends, and some were the new HB10's.

We changed all of the backgrounds, sent out mysterious messages, called the victims late at night with text-to-speech programs...and the worst thing, some of my friends used the hacked accounts and typed the most vulgar messages I've ever seen in my life...not going to go into detail so you can keep your dinner in your stomach, but it was basically confessing the fantasy of rape and scat and all kinds of other fucked up things...pretty much a lot of juvenile shit...As expected, when we returned to school on Monday the whole school was blowing up about "the hackers"...It is a small town, you know. Nothing was discussed by anybody for the rest of the month but "the hackers." You honestly could not walk through any part of the hall without hearing about it. There were assemblies held on cyber bullying, and teachers were taking full class blocks to discuss the situation. It was madness. It became this huge thing that spread around the news. And the hilarious part about it, it was SO blown out of proportion.

Never in my life have I seen so many people exaggerate shit to gain attention. Honestly a hilarious thing...you know all of the details, and you get to hear all of your peers around you lie and make up bullshit so they stay in the limelight and feed off of the situation for popularity and attention.

Anyway, these two HB10's (2 of the victims) who were sisters, almost identical in appearance, had a slutty mom. Apparently mommy fucked the state police department, and was able to pull some strings and get the cops' primary focus on this case. It took about 2 months for the state police cyberforensics unit to catch us. Within these 2 months, I actually felt like a god. So much adrenaline at all times. I don't know if anybody has ever experienced a situation like this, but to know that you caused all of the mess is actually an addictive feeling.

But I also experienced a much stronger, much more potent feeling than that throughout all of this. And that feeling is being forced to sit in a closed room with 2 state policeman and a tape recorder. The weight of the world is on your shoulders. The adrenaline is back, but it's not a good adrenaline. Your mind races. You don't know what to do. You're frozen. You know they have the evidence on you. You know there's no other option than to admit your guilt. So that's what was done. Oh, and by the way, I took 100 percent of the blame for this. I didn't rat anybody out. My friends got off scott-free. So it looks like I did all of this, including the fucked up messages.

So anyway, we will fast forward a bit. 3 months go by. I get charged with cyber trespassing, cyber-viewing of private networks, and some other bullshit charges.
3 court appearances.
I ultimately end up with 10 months of probation for my wrongdoings, which was the best case scenario...mainly due to my clean record and good grades.
So the HB10's and their mom could keep this whole thing private, and just call it settled. I did the crime, so now I do my time and it's all over with, right?

Wrong. One of the bitches spills the beans. The worst day of my life. The worst fucking day of my life. Walking through the doors of that school the next day. It was like I was in hell. The ultimate walk of shame. Ohhhhh, the amount of shit I got that day. Everybody calling my name, whispering shit...every branch of the hallways, every corner of the school there was somebody calling my name, making a mockery of me. "Joey did it! Joey did it!"...This continued for weeks, months, and finally the rest of the year...All within about 4 months, I went from being the popular kid everybody loves and wants to be around with shitloads of friends, to the uber-social outcast who is good at video games and masturbates to pictures on facebook.

Obviously during this experience, there was a huge kick to my self-esteem. And it's pretty obvious that no female even lay eyes on the creepy hacker "nerd" kid...perceived to be nerdy I should say, it's all about that perception. So for the rest of that year, I stayed out of the way and hung out with whoever would tolerate me. This continued throughout my junior year. This was a stressful time in my life, quite obviously, and I gained a decent amount of weight and became out of shape to.

At the beginning of this year (my senior year) I said "I've had enough of this bullshit" To make a long story short, I lost weight, made my highschool basketball team, and with about 4 or 5 months of work, I have climbed the social ladder back up top. Miraculous I think. People forgive and forget, I guess. I've left out a lot of details, but all you need to know is that I'm a popular kid again. I'm fucking back. I'm living it up almost every day, and making the best out of the remainder of my highschool. There's just one thing missing. Women.
Throughout my years, even with the high social value that I carried, I could just never get it done with women. And granted, I never really tried too hard either. But I'm a kissless virgin at 17, and I just realized that that's pretty sad. I literally talk to 0 girls...I want to be on top of the girl game at my school.

That's the one thing...the only thing missing from my life right now. I'm getting a bit tired of having nothing to say when my buddies get in the girl/relationship conversation.

So my question for you guys is: considering my past mistakes, is it possible to find somebody at my school? Even with my popularity, it's extremely hard to diminish the 1st impressions I made...
So, where do I start? I might be at a disadvantage. I don't really understand the highschool game. Where do I get started? Flirt with a girl, get her number, talk to her, try to get nudies, lol, what the fuck do I do? I My friends seem to have the system down pat.
Mind you, during my loneliness throughout my 10th/11th grade years, I wasn't just wasting time. I learned a lot of psychology and read Neil Strauss's The Game. So I'm sure this knowledge would help.
But my lack of pussy is started to get noticed, and I don't want to just get it every now and then. I want to get it a lot. Fuck it, I'll be a PUA. Somebody tell me where to start. Explain the highschool game to me. As corny and juvenile as it sounds...just help me. I've been through a lot. My life is getting better but there's just one piece missing.
Help me find it.

-perception

Oh, and just to add, the game range here is like 16-19yrs, so it's not like I'm gaming supermodels or shit like that, so there has to be some kind of material that will work.

I wanna start off by saying badass story dude!! You are a cyber legend hahaha

But really, you want to know where to start?
Just talk to the girls anywhere you see them. You have a gift of being a good story teller - you had me hooked in your story - so use that to your advantage.

What you and your mates did was wrong - But Hey, shit happens!
You managed to spin some pretty good positives out of it all when you read over what you said.

If you could manage to reword that story so as to lessen the blows of what you did wrong and amplify how you succeeded and what not I'm almost sure you could use that as a great DHV story.

What really stood out to me is it's a story of a kid and his mates who decided to stir shit for fun (don't give two shits what people think), eluded the police for a good two months (while getting your rocks off to it - fucking boss), one of them got caught out, he took the blame (alpha - watching out for his mates [or supposed mates if none stepped in to hold the weight on their own shoulders ]) did his time without complaining (or so you allude), and then crawled back to former glory.

That is boss.

If you can transfer your energy into simply talking to girls at school, at the park, at the store - anywhere - and capture them in the world as you see it like you did with that story - albeit maybe editing out the parts about sending vulgar repulsive messages etc just say was joking around - then you will absolutely kill it.

Just look at the story for its positives and translate them into strengths you can shred the ladies with.

Long and short:

Damn talk to the girls before you bother considering your next move!
If it is a small town as you say it is inevitably your history will come up.
Turn this into a god-sent slow ball to smash out of the park with your demonstration of how you overcame it all and you will be rolling in it in no time.

Hope it all goes well for you

First off I find it fucking offensive that you refer to gamers as pussy repellent. I'm not someone that sits at home, rubs his balls, and plays games all day but I do my share of gaming. I'm also a senior and this has not affected my game in any shape or form, it's all about the frame you create for yourself. I've gamed girls using my "skills" in video games as a DHV, point being gamers are not pussy repellent.

As for your question, of course it's possible to game girls in your high school even though your reputation wasn't the best Sophmore and junior year. Once again, its all about how you frame yourself. You can be the nerd who hacked some facebook accounts or THE FUCKING BOSS who hacked facebook accounts.

Now on to high school game, you have to acknowledge that HS game is much different than gaming outside of HS. Personally what has worked for me is opening alot of 2-sets of girls who I've seen around the school but don't quite know. Then again I go to a large high school so that's something that very positively effects my game. The reason I like 2-sets is because usually when you see 2 girls walking around together at lunch or study hall they're good friends, and if you can spark some interest in 1 girl they will usually end up talking about you after you walk off and that's always a good thing.

After having met the girl you're going to game, your goal is to set up a "date" outside of school. Something like "Hey a couple of us are going to watch a movie, you should come" works pretty well for me. It could be a football game, or anything really as long as you're together outside of school. After that first "date" if I don't naturally kiss-close I ask her to hang out again a couple days later, at this point your goal is to KC, if it doesn't happen you drop the girl and move on to the next.

Thanks, lol, I've never been told that I'm a good storyteller. I suppose that would be an advantage. I'll try it.

Also, @TheGillz, I wasn't trying to offend anybody. Between you and me, during my two year hiatus from real life, I was actually on the pro level in one video game, lmao. I just meant that if you're a gamer in my town (it's a small southern town) you're perceived as pussy repellent. [/quote]

Bump, anybody else have any advice? What course should I look into or what books should I read that would help game in highschool?

I was useless in high school, but at least i ddin't do what you did hahahaha

My only advice to you:
You made your bed man, sleep in it

I have slept in it, now I want to sleep in it with bitches. Thanks for your 2 cents.

Heres another 2 cent.

Stop refering to women as "bitches", you've obviously not learnt your lesson on respect

I didn't realize I was speaking to women here, thanks for letting me know. Anybody with more than 17 posts want to give me some help?

yo I had problems in high school too.

I was a popular kid who was smart and nerdy-ish but was in the skater and "non-bro" cool kid group. Bro = lax bro or jock, which was the majority of my high school. So my group of friends was tight with all the chicks who werent cheerleaders or athletes. I was also fairly successful with women, getting a BJ before i turned 16 lol, but then i also became a sophomore.

Sophomore was my second year of high school and my social circle was set but starting in 8th grade and increasing in severity towards the end of freshman year, i had severe acne. I was that pizza face of my high school.

I started taking accutane to get rid of the acne at the beginning of 10th grade. That med has been known to cause suicidal thoughts, depression, etc. You even need to sign a waiver saying that if i did kill myself, my family would not sue the compnay for my death.. like wtf. But I was not suicidal but i was very depressed and very anti-social. I alienated all my friends and I lost their friendship due to my erratic and weird behavior.

I was lonely and often at home with family on the weekends. I was not a cool kid anymore. I lost all my female friendships and all my guy friends at the same time.

I became friends with the pothead friends, a few that i was friends with before there smoking days in middle school. They were chill and i enjoyed smoking and relaxing with them on the weekends. I did not get chicks at all for two years in 10th and 11th grade while i was on accutane and then only hanging with the pothead friends.

Senior year, i refriended my old friends and they were chill but obviously something had changed. We couldnt really be good friends anymore but we could be chill and hang at parties. At house parties that these old friends had was when i re introduced myself to all the girls that i used to talk to. I presented myself as someone that was not congruent with my reputation. I soon hooked up with some girls and actually dated two of them.

During school, I did not open or approach any girls for the sake of gaming. I only talked to them and built comfort. (i was not in pua at that time but this was what i did, speaking objectively in hindsight)

On the weekends when we all drank and socialized away from the confines of the school was when i could flirt and build atraction with the girls.

I love bitches, bitches are awesome. I fuck bitches and get money. Dont think women are all bitches but it is perfectly acceptable for young men to call girls bitches just like girls call guys assholes. (no need to argue anybody, this is true more or less)

Being a nerd is a girl repellent. I know first hand. I was a pot head nerd at my high school and until i started partying and socializing again with my old friends was when the girls realized that i was normal. You have changed your reputation around, use your hardships to build comfort and attraction (DHV) when you meet new people. But with the girls who already know you, just act like nothing happend and flirt with them at parties. I recommend being cocky funny because most naturals in high school are this and it is an effective way to tease women.

Summary and some new ideas:
- make sure your social standing is good
- fix inner game issues
- go to house parties on weekends
- flirt little at school, flirt alot at parties
- use good eye contact and body language everywhere
- after you get numbers, text during classes or whenever about funny shit
- after you kclose girls, text them every other day or so
- be able to drive
- drink alcohol, dont drink and drive
- be cocky funny
- 60 years of challenge is very good
- do not use canned routines
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- tooting my own own (college is very similar to high school) j-slays-college-thread-vt119121.html?highlight=
- do not use direct approahces in high school
- have fun and have a good attitude no matter who you are talking to and whenever and wherver you are talking to them. always self amuse yourself, girls like to be with fun guys
- also, go to other towns to their parties, girls from other towns like to hook up with guys from different town so that they do not get a reputation in their own high school for being a slut. It works, its true and thats how i got alot of kcloses and bjs my senior year lol

My 69 cents.. im so mature hahaha

J Slay

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You miss 100% of the shots you never take.
- Wayne Gretzky

Finally somebody who understands where I'm coming from...Hey man, I really appreciate your advice. I was beginning to think there weren't going to be any helpful replies. But gladly I was wrong.
I'll check out the 60 Years of Challenge...
My social standing is pretty much good and I'm at parties all the time now...the girls are around, I just needed to know where to get a start of actually doing something. And now I think you sent me on the right path. Thanks bro.

As the first poster said, dude that shit is fucking BOSS.

Nicely fucking done man that shit is inspiring lol.
And yeah I just wanna add that when I saw the length of this thread I wasn't down to read it, got a few lines in and I was hooked.


But anyways. You said you've lost weight and hit the gym? Use your looks to your advantage. From what I remember of HS parties its that looks make opening so much easier. Because social standing is so important and often there is a significant correlation between looks and social standing (maybe less for guys but still there I believe).


As for HS game...your probably gonna wanna use a lot of cocky funny stuff. Tease the girls, have a great sense of humour (you must have one after this fucking ordeal lol). Another poster recommended 60 years of challenge, I second that recommendation.

Confidence in yourself will be key with your 'reputation' your probably gonna have to play that shit off quite a bit when its brought up. In relation to confidence - FASHION! I know your in HS so maybe you can't afford to shell out for some slick clothes but just try to be unique. I mean...don't go from wearing t-shirts and sweats to showing up in a tux, but definitely try to be the best dressed out of your immediate friends. Girls will pick up on this.


Anyways, I seriously hope ANY of this helps you. Don't know about the others but I definitely wanna see you succeed. Good luck man.

First off, thanks for the kind words man. By all means, I'm not a Calvin Klein model but I have decent looks I suppose. Any time I go out I try to look as nice as possible. You're definitely right about the confidence. My confidence is starting to come back, I can feel it...it just took awhile after that whole ordeal. I've also been told I have a good sense of humor. I'm going to download the 60 Years of Challenge and actually start talking to girls any chance I get. Thanks for your help man.

Nerds like you suck!

I am not talking about playing video games, I am talking about hacking others people stuff. Hope all you ******* burn in hell.