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Hey guys,

First of all I'd like to thank you all for reading this message im new here, but i'm very eager to learn and contribute!

Well heres my situation. I just switched schools this year, and I'm in my senior year of high school. Since the start of the year I've been to much of a chicken to actually approach any girls that I am very interested in 9's and 10's. This one girl I had told one of my guy friends in confidence that I wanted to get with her in the halls and somehow her friend heard and told her, which I guess is a minus. And then I asked one of the female friends I met at the school to tell this other girl that i like her (which turned out to be a mistake). I guess tahts a big DLV. I really don't know what to do, I mean I dont know how to put it all together and approach. I mean have I ruined my chances now that all this has happened, or because I havent approached yet has my value dropped? Is there anything I can do starting tommorw to turn this all around, and have them view me differently? Or even better what can I do to turn around the whole situation. I really want to do this and there are some 9's and 10's in my classes which I defiantely would like to persue. I'm having a tough time approaching girls at this school. I would appreciate any advice thank you.


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Hey guys,

First of all I'd like to thank you all for reading this message im new here, but i'm very eager to learn and contribute!

Well heres my situation. I just switched schools this year, and I'm in my senior year of high school. Since the start of the year I've been to much of a chicken to actually approach any girls that I am very interested in 9's and 10's. This one girl I had told one of my guy friends in confidence that I wanted to get with her in the halls and somehow her friend heard and told her, which I guess is a minus. And then I asked one of the female friends I met at the school to tell this other girl that i like her (which turned out to be a mistake). I guess tahts a big DLV. I really don't know what to do, I mean I dont know how to put it all together and approach. I mean have I ruined my chances now that all this has happened, or because I havent approached yet has my value dropped? Is there anything I can do starting tommorw to turn this all around, and have them view me differently? Or even better what can I do to turn around the whole situation. I really want to do this and there are some 9's and 10's in my classes which I defiantely would like to persue. I'm having a tough time approaching girls at this school. I would appreciate any advice thank you.
You are in the exact same situation I was in last year...the exact, senior year, new school, and already screwing up w/ some girls haha...however, if there is a difference between your situation and mine, the difference is that you still have time to change things...

the best advice I can give you is take in as much knowledge as you can about the game and try it on these girls...the worst thing you can do is sit on the side and wait for the right moment...thats what I tried to do, and in most cases the moment never came...then I was running out of time cuz the school year was ending, I tried to force the moments and it just didnt happen...

The thing it seems like u need to get over is approach anxiety...its ok, cuz we all have it, even the best...the attitude you gotta have is "fuck it, if I screw up, then w/e"...so just approach, and use openers about things that are going on in the class or in the school if that makes it easier...and after the first few approaches, and you get more comfortable, use some better opinion openers like the "who lies more?"...and if you wanna come off as funny use the "floss before or after" opener...anything really just to get some general conversation going...

Another thing is, that you see these girls every day, so you have every day to DHV with routines and stuff, so I wouldnt be to concerned about stacking...just start with openers, and then once your more comfortable you should stack more and more...

So those are my thoughts on that...hopefully that helps you out a little, tell me how it goes if you decide to give it a try


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Hey guys,

First of all I'd like to thank you all for reading this message im new here, but i'm very eager to learn and contribute!

Well heres my situation. I just switched schools this year, and I'm in my senior year of high school. Since the start of the year I've been to much of a chicken to actually approach any girls that I am very interested in 9's and 10's. This one girl I had told one of my guy friends in confidence that I wanted to get with her in the halls and somehow her friend heard and told her, which I guess is a minus. And then I asked one of the female friends I met at the school to tell this other girl that i like her (which turned out to be a mistake). I guess tahts a big DLV. I really don't know what to do, I mean I dont know how to put it all together and approach. I mean have I ruined my chances now that all this has happened, or because I havent approached yet has my value dropped? Is there anything I can do starting tommorw to turn this all around, and have them view me differently? Or even better what can I do to turn around the whole situation. I really want to do this and there are some 9's and 10's in my classes which I defiantely would like to persue. I'm having a tough time approaching girls at this school. I would appreciate any advice thank you.
You are in the exact same situation I was in last year...the exact, senior year, new school, and already screwing up w/ some girls haha...however, if there is a difference between your situation and mine, the difference is that you still have time to change things...

the best advice I can give you is take in as much knowledge as you can about the game and try it on these girls...the worst thing you can do is sit on the side and wait for the right moment...thats what I tried to do, and in most cases the moment never came...then I was running out of time cuz the school year was ending, I tried to force the moments and it just didnt happen...

The thing it seems like u need to get over is approach anxiety...its ok, cuz we all have it, even the best...the attitude you gotta have is "fuck it, if I screw up, then w/e"...so just approach, and use openers about things that are going on in the class or in the school if that makes it easier...and after the first few approaches, and you get more comfortable, use some better opinion openers like the "who lies more?"...and if you wanna come off as funny use the "floss before or after" opener...anything really just to get some general conversation going...

Another thing is, that you see these girls every day, so you have every day to DHV with routines and stuff, so I wouldnt be to concerned about stacking...just start with openers, and then once your more comfortable you should stack more and more...

So those are my thoughts on that...hopefully that helps you out a little, tell me how it goes if you decide to give it a try
Honestly buddy, thank you for your advice, I honestly appreciate it a lot. Its great to see someone else who shared the same experience. I guess I can start off with changing my body language. And I think I will give a shot and just approach what the heck, if i try i have a chance, If i dont try i will never know if I have a shot. What exactly are the steps though? Open, Neg, DHV?. Any other advice is greatly appreciated. I think I have to show some higher value, and actually get to opening them.


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Another option would be to get over your one-itus.
Try your game on a lot of other girl's, make it work and eventually you will be showing up at a lot of the same party's, and then you can game them.

The best BEST advice about making friends in school (at least what I used, and worked for me, before i even knew about the community) is to just pretend everybody around you is already your friend.

For example, after a about a couple months, you will notice that it is a lot easier to talk to the students around you even though they aren't really your friends. So just pretend like you already know them. So walk in and just say something that happened to you the other day that you would tell your actual friends when you first saw them.


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What are the steps? Really what I would do (or what I shouldve done last year haha) is just start with opening...dont worry so much about stacking just yet...if you start off with a good opener the conversation will carry itself, throw in some negs and try n be playful...if you start to get more comfortable with the girl then something like the 5 questions game, or ESP routine is something easy to DHV, and seperate yourself from other guys


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The ebst thing to do is to start with the girls your not interested in, don't game them but come off as the nice guy.. you just started at a new school don't jump into hitting on the hotties right away and negging, if it backfires you'l be known as the enw asshole teh school just got, so get in with the girls your not interested that will demonstrate some higher value and popularity.

I was lucky I never had your probem I switched schools in my senior year but it was because most of my hockey team went to that highschool so I was already in with the jocks and demonstrating higher value

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Most of all be confident. All women like confident men and being confident will eventually lead to being alpha, which at a new school is a sure fire way to meet new people.

If there first impression of you was a random kid asking one of them to find out if their friend likes you and you completely pull a 180 degree change and start negging them and dhving (being confident is the best DHV in my opinion) then not only will those girls take notice but others as well.


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fluffs got a good point there, if you display all the characteristics of an ALPHA male good things will follow. most importantly stop asking girls to tell their friends you like them, it shows no backbone and thats something highschool girls especially like they want a guy that can protect them and stand up for themselves

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don't kiss and tell...kiss and post. And don't get other ppl to hook you up, it's a sign of weakness and uR not portraying confidence. Women love confidence. If you like them, tell them directly. If not, then don't tell anyone. And if you really wanna tell someone, tell her yourself.


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I'd like to thank you all for all of your great advice and support. I really appreciate it.

I think I just have to start opening, and not being afraid. I just though that my chances were ruined because I demonstrated lower value on several occasions. So I guess what I should take out of this is:

a) Just go approach we all experience AI
b) Throw in some DHV's and Negs
c) Try out some girls im not interested in
d) Be Condifdent and Alpha Male

and above all else stop being a pu55y.

Really though, I just thought that I ruined all chances by kind of messing things up early. Like we've been at school for 3 months now and I haven't approached any of them I thought this in combination with the DLV's kind of destroyed my shot. I mean I cant just give up your right, but wont it be a big awkward approaching now?


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no no you misunderstood my post a bit, your not gaming the ones your not interested in, your getting social status. Befriend them so you get a reputation of somewhat of a nice guy, if you go in and just start hitting on all the hottys and negging them your going to get a reputation for being an asshole, gain social status then start gameing

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AH gotcha fire, thank you bud!

Alright I think its just a matter of approaching and gaming them all in general then.


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