Do you guys agree that most of us on here think waaaay too much? I'm willing to bet most of us that ended up here have or had a lot of little anxieties over the years. Even when coming up with routines its non stop planning out strategy.

I've always been one to worry too much and it has affected my life more negatively then positively, sure if i have a plan it makes life easier but its so much harder when I dont have a plan and I just try to go with it.

Being on this forum since my break up and reading about PUAs and the game, I realize that there are more people out there like me who have found success by over thinking and over analyzing everything. So maybe my over thinking and worrying is not a bad thing.

I'm just curious though are most of you guys out there like this?

Definitely true. Most guys do tend to over think things and getting girls is easier than we think.

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most smart guys think and rationalize too much when it comes to game, this is an advantage that naturals have as they are usually not very bright and don't rationalize reasons why things with girls wont work. So you have a good point

I think most smart guys think too much in general. Also, the more information we take in without acting, the more time we spend thinking about it and dwelling on it.

I know I fall into that category... My biggest cockblocker is my brain.

omg, so true. that's me too

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My biggest cock blocker is my fucked up insecurity of loneliness.

Yes, I definitely have this problem as well. The other night, a friend and I sat there analyzing a text I received from a girl:

"Hey! Hope you have a great holiday break. See you next week."

To any normal person, that probably looks like an innocent, generic text. But no.

Me: What did she mean by that?

Friend: Dude, she used an exclamation mark. That must mean she's excited to text you.

Me: Very true. But it could also imply that I'm just a good friend, you know?

Friend: Fuck, you're right. Well how about when she said "see you next week"? She must be looking forward to it.

Me: Oh man, you're right. She is looking forward to it. The next drink is on me, brah.

20 minutes later, after careful planning, I finally replied:

"Thanks, you too."

I personally overthink a lot, beacause of this my brain stops me doing the moves and even go a step forward in the interaction. But there are situations where think a bit more could be wise: for example there could be situations where you need think for a good comeback or answer, maybe while chatting, for get she on a bit more, or for dont let she lose the focus and the attraction on you.

But mainly lots of guys overthink, for the fear of tell something wrong, or act in bad way, they just want everything perfect, thing that coundt easy be reached by anyone. Doing that they lose the focus on their goal cause of the huge ammount of information that they got in their brains and can even risk to get turn off the girl.

One of my friends when im talking to him about a girl say: "you are bandaging your head before its broke". He is so damn right. Do not overthink too much in my opinion.
Just in some occasion. Be natural.

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Aiyuris, this is a great question. And I will write a detailed response so it may help others understand a bit more. As people above said this over analyzing stuff happens to the smart and rational. Smart and rational people try to explain everything with logic. Therefore, we try to explain woman's reactions and everything else with mostly logic too. What we miss is that woman don't work by principles of logic 100%. Woman are very emotional. Therefore, when you try to understand her actions you can't relate to her because you think with logic and rationality whiles she thinks with emotions. If you look at as detox mentioned the not such bright guys they don't logically try to analyze everything they rather act on their emotions. That's why many of these type of guys come out to be badboys as girls call them. Because they don't think of the circumstances and consequences, they just do what their emotions tell them too. The girls can relate to that and therefore are attracted to this character. Now, in order for smart guy to get out of this over analyzing he has either change his mindset or just fake it and act out. That's why many guys learn GAME like a strategic plan rather than a change of mindset. When they go into field they try their "tactics" they again fail. The reason is because as I have mentioned they tried to pick up a girl solely on the principles of logic. Now, this does not mean you shouldn't use logic when picking up the girl. On the contrary you should combine both logic and emotions to create an irresistible attraction. Now from a philosophical point of view. It's very simple, people who are smarter have shortcoming and the not such bright guys we mentioned(badboys) have shortcomings too. The world is balanced out so that one person isn't naturally so powerful. Everything is like that. Now this is naturally but you can work yourself up to perfectness. In our case the smart guy can learn how to combine his emotions and logic to become good with woman. The not such bright guy can try to become smarter to combine his smartness with the strong emotions he has already to be good with woman and so on. I know this because I was like this at a certain point of my life. And I had to plow through and think and practice and learn and experience to figure this all out. But now you guys have the forums and don't have to go through so much. So in short, your lucky.

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You're right. We (I) think too much. Sometimes, it's better to just do and wait for the consequences, and if anything goes wrong just blame the girl.

Wow when I posted this a week ago it had no replies, but this thread has gotten very informative. I've been trying to hold back from over thinking and over analyzing things but it seems most of us do it far to often.

Right now I'm actually dating a couple girls but now I keep over thinking when to make the move to sex. Is it too soon? or Is she ready? questions like that just keep popping up!

This is so strange that i've only just read this.

Lately i've been trying a REALLY simple approach to girls, i.e; simply going for a girl that i'm interested in, and not thinking about a single other thing