Are you suggesting that the guys you fuck are so desperate and worthless that they cannot game any other girl? Are you suggesting that the guys who fuck and ditch you are leaving you behind for their right hands?

Plenty readily available "commodities" can't be afforded by the masses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity
You can label it however you'd like. Misunderstood, misperceived, unpredictable, etc . . . You can also blame yourself, me, her, him, them, etc . . .

Here's the reality: PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE YOU.

If they liked you, they'd want to be around you. They don't like you, so they DO NOT hang around you. This doesn't mean you're a bad person or a good person or anything else. It just means that the people who you would like to fuck, or kiss, or play chess with DO NOT LIKE YOU enough to stick around.

You can continue to live exactly as you do now or you can change a few habits. I suppose you can also continue to do exactly as you are now and try to convince others to "understand" you better but this thread seems to be a "perfect example" of how this method totally sucks.

here is the thing:

a girl walks up and says "hey will you fuck me right now?"

theoretically, i would have you bent over and be blowing my load into your abdominal cavity almost immediately.

realistically, i would be thinking one of the following:

- um, what the fuck, is this some sort of setup? is she going to get me naked and then ten dudes with baseball bats are going to jump out and beat and rob me?

- um, is she crazy, like this is some sort of dare, and she is mentally unbalanced and is going to cry rape or something? does she have some sort of personality disorder?

- um, maybe she has a disease and is looking to spread it? idk...

the point is: it is very atypical for girls to walk up to men and say "fuck me now"

especially, if they seem weird or off when they pull a stunt like that...

so in my mind, i am immediately thinking "what is the catch here?"

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Do yourself a favor and for a moment try to just assume that they are genuinely trying their best to help you, because that's totally what i'm seeing here. Based on your responses you don't seem to be seeing it that way. Shit, even Mack 2.0 is taking the time to break it down for you!

If you're here for help the only way to get it is if you are ready to hear the truth. No one here has much motive to just fuck with you. Listen. Try to change a couple things up and go sarging in the next town over. Take notes and try something else, like Nadine was talking about.

Blaming everyone who's trying to help you will make no one want to help you. For your own sake, stop it.

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can't agree more with those replies ... like kasabi says .. the type of people who you like to be around don't want to be around you... it's not good or bad - it is what it is... if you don't get the right results out of a interaction change the way you communicate..

why ? good question .. start asking yourself... all i know is that you take shit way to personal and you have a huge fucking ego... stop judging other people and maybe they will like you.

just look at the thread .. it starts out with her blaming everything but her.. then she starts bullshitting and blaming herself...then she says other people are fake and how im insulting her .. how im not right - herself assuming she's right... taking shit personal.... she's unpredictable and now she says other people think she's unpredictable.... then she says her psychology is consistent.. but she keeps swinging from blaming herself to blaming ''them'' ...

how the fuck can she know what other people think .. if 200 men told her literally face to face that they think she's unpredictable i would believe her .. but they probably did not .. she just adopt lame self fulfilling prophecies on how predictable and boring other people are...

how the fuck can people sincerely like you if you are like this ? im attracted like hard to get girls like you... i had alot of them..but i also know that they have a pain in the ass behaviour about alot of shit... i agree with what mack says.. whats the catch ... what your catch.. you won't let us know because you avoid questions with lame excuses and paranoid mindsets.

if you don't answer your questions i answer them for you .. how about this :

people don't like you... woman are like busses - there is one coming by every 10 seconds , you are a commodity for other people - you reinforce this by behaving like a pain in the ass , people who you want to be around do not like you and you take shit to personal with your huge calculative ego - people cannot fucking relax around you. Not all men are desperate or fake because they reject your vagina.. especially if the above is true - no men is going to compromise his health and values just for some vagina from you...it's not fucking worth it... could be men just reject your ass because they don't like you and they think it isn't worth compromising their emotional health.

so if a guy refuses sex it doesn't make him a pussy..... there are alot of woman out there who will try to rob , cheat , or pass on STD....I only fuck high quality woman who i really like, if you walk up to me asking me to fuck you i would very likely do it.... but after reading all your replies i can gladly say i must be inclined to refuse... because ... YOU ARE DRAMA..

of course you can prove me wrong by improving yourself and becoming a better human .. maybe start with answering some questions..

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I said I PARTLY blame myself but MAINLY it's no one's fault. Again, you're viewing this so black and white. Anyway, I know that I am coming across wrong to people, but I am not quite sure exactly what it is that I am doing to come across so inaccurately.
I certainly know myself better than anyone does, let alone some random person on an internet forum! Perhaps the reason I am being defensive could be to do with your approach.
No, you have totally misunderstood what I meant by unpredictable. I was more getting at the fact that I really really don't fit any stereotypes at all, so when people make assumptions about me, they are often wrong. I wasn't trying to suggest that I was mentally unbalanced or indecisive or anything like that.
No, people don't tell me that I am unpredictable. However, as they learn more about me, they are, without fail, surprised by what they learn, because I am so unusual. I always get comments like, "Wow, you don't look like you'd be interested in that!"
I know that there is a slim chance any of my acquaintances would be reading this, but if they did, I would rather not be identified, because I don't want my acquaintances to know about my private life. Why do you want to know about my passions so much?!
I don't have a problem with your honesty, but I have a problem with your delivery. The way you say something can make such a big difference... Kind of like asking someone if they'd like rump steak vs. if they'd like cow's arse. I am not asking you to sugar coat it for me, and while in a perfect world I would never get defensive about anything, I am only human. If you are genuinely trying to help, then you really need to reconsider your approach, because if you are too harsh and crass then then you will have a very difficult time getting the person you are trying to help to listen to you.

Also, I am starting to think that possibly part of the reason for our disagreement is to with (I'm assuming here) English not being your first language. Maybe I should have picked up on it sooner, but your English is quite good, so it didn't occur to me. I just think that it's possible that there are just a few subtle nuances that are missing that are preventing us from understanding each other as well as we would if, for example, Dutch was my first language and we were speaking Dutch (but unfortunately that's not an option).
I absolutely considered what you wrote, and I thought there were some excellent suggestions in there, based on the very limited information about me that you had available to you. The thing is that am honest and I know myself, so when I say that your suggestions don't apply to me, then you should take my word for it, rather than going on a massive crusade trying to prove me wrong, which is so pointless. At the end of the day, the point of this thread is that we're trying to help me and figure out how I can do things better, so we shouldn't dwell on the points that I don't need help with.
Um, No, I did NOT say that! YOU said that I said that, and I already corrected you once already about that... O_o
I don't see why you need to know what my interests are and what I want from life in order to help me with this specific problem. As far as I'm concerned, I have provided you with all the information you need. If you have any other relevant questions, such as "if a guy did / said this, what would your reaction be?" then I will be more than happy to answer them.

I go to the pub with my friends.

I don't have the perfect figure, but I have an excellent dress sense and a nice face.

I am 26 and would prefer someone who is a similar age to me. I don't care about race.

No I wasn't trying to suggest that they are desperate and worthless. I guess they wouldn't be ditching me for their right hands... But I don't know... Everyone always seems to go on about how it's hard for guys to get laid, so if there's someone who's available, good in bed and not wanting any attachment, I would've thought they'd go for it, rather than risking rejection or whatever (considering that most guys are apparently AFCs).
Wow, you make it sound like I have no friends and I'm disliked by everyone. That is not the case at all. I have simply noticed a pattern that some guys I've hooked up with are disinterested in hooking up with me again. That has nothing to do with whether or not people want to hang around me or play chess with me. I might also add that there are plenty of guys who DO want to fuck me, but I turn them down because I'm not attracted to them. And that actually includes some guys that I've hooked up with before too.

I am well aware that I need to change something. That's why I'm here asking for advice. I guess I'm trying to help people understand me better so they can better tailor the advice to me.

I so agree with this! That is why I have never directly asked... It just seems too creepy or something!
I am sorry if I have come across as blaming everyone, because that's not been my intention. I am definitely open to listening to advice; but when someone continually refers to me as a pain in the arse, it kind of makes it difficult to remain convinced that that person actually does have my best interest in mind!

That's a good idea! I definitely would do that if it occurred to me at the time, but I am not quick on my feet so I might miss the opportunity when it arises. Do you think I should try pre-planning for that or is that a bad idea?

well ... why is this the case ?.. what do you think is the problem here ? what guys are you attracted to ?

look i don't have anything against woman who love sex .. but if you act around all like a village whore then it's understandable that guys reject you...

don't get me wrong here i don't run away fron girls like that , but i understand why other guys do.

how much do you test guys .. how do you test them ? how do you convey your interest ?

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Here's the truth.

You do not give the men that you come in contact with 'a good feeling'.

"But what feelings? I don't want to involve feelings. I want sex."


Well, even sex no matter how much of an act it was, leaves some sort of after-feeling in your head, your heart, maybe even your organ. If you actually do give men the kind of "amazing, hot sex" that you say you do, then the associated feelings of lust and passion WILL drag them back to you. But, they don't come back, which means that maybe you over-reached in your assessment on your skills.

Truth, is that you might be Miss Universe offering me a "No Strings Attached" relationship, but if I don't get a good feeling about you, if I think you're too much of an effort to make, if I find that you have issues which far outrank your good qualities, I am just going to stay the hell away from you.

So, stuff like " if there's someone who's available, good in bed and not wanting any attachment" is all coming way later.

Maybe, there is a lot of hue and cry about "how it's hard for guys to get laid", but take even an AFC and stick him with a woman with the sort of baggage that makes him want to smash his head into the wall and you might be the goddess of sex herself but he would still like his head in one piece. Thank you very much.


kasabi is right. If people just don't want to stick around you enough for it to become a noticeable pattern, then it means they cannot be arsed with it. This isn't a judgement on your character, it's just an assessment.

Lodewijkp is right. Continual avoidance, refusing to see the truth laid out in front of you and still wanting to diagnose a problem in yourself which doesn't even exist beyond what has already been said here, makes you a rather foolish person.

Mack2.0 is right. Women coming up to men and saying "Fuck Me" will 9 times out of 10 , make him think about "the catch", because the society, the media, the history have all hammered it into our heads that women are not this direct without any ultimate goal involved. This is akin to a Blue Moon. Now how many times have you see one?

And to be honest, there is a certain point to which we can drag this out till people eventually throw their hands up in the air and say "Ah, fuck it!"

Notice, the highlights?

That's what we call, calling the shot.

How come everyone on this forum jumps at the opportunity to answer a female's question with intense depth and detail but the majority of men's questions recieve a shitty response or no response at all??

To OP, advice from these guys is good.

cause women in the forum are rare, unusual...my take, and i think is interesting the other the female side of pua/afc. my take

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Ok, make sure your friends look decent or good, that will help guys approaching, have guys take picture of you and your friends(easy way to open), and ask them to take pics with you... like hobbit says the sexual double meaning is an excellent way for women to flirt, my current girlfriend used that style to get guys.

make sure you make working out an obsession after 25 women tend to gain weight, remember guys are super super visual, cross fit(if you have the money), if not body for life by phillips(you can get in any barnes and noble the original, NOT the one for women), the reason i like body for life is because you will see results from week to week, and is super easy and fast in case you are busy, after 3 months of body for life, do challene extreme by beach body . make sure you follow the nutrition plan of body for life is super simple not complicated http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitnes ... 23165957:s


i don't know if black men, go to pubs, i would go to a place were black men go, they are more aggressive, and they are more likely to not waste time, and fuck you right away(also they have big guns lol), they are more of naturals/aggressive, if not Hispanics, white guys are the least aggressive of the races, in my experience, no offense to anybody the exception NewYorkers, if you can travel to New York, new yorkers also aggressive, or places were newyorkers hang out...

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Well I proposed some of my theories in my first post. I know that seems very blaming towards guys in general, it's just that for years I assumed that it was me... That I wasn't good enough in bed or wasn't good looking enough, but I have had quite a lot of feedback to contradict that, and I have also encountered plenty of other females who say they have the same problem as me... And they are definitely not bad looking or anything!

So the more I thought about it, the more I became convinced that Christianity's influence on society in general is to largely to blame. And I think it's true that if a person gets something awesome but it's just handed to them on a fucking silver platter they'll be much less likely to appreciate it than if they get something equally awesome but they really have to earn it first. So I think there are numerous factors at play, some of them being within my control and some of them not. I do sometimes worry that I unwittingly come across wrong to people somehow.

Perhaps I do act like the village whore... In some ways I do, but then the fact that I am so fussy doesn't fit (this is a good example of what I meant when I said I was unpredictable... The stereotype of a slutty or promiscuous woman would have her sleeping with everyone and anyone, but although I consider myself slutty and promiscuous, I am very selective about who I do sleep with... So I guess my pattern is predictable if you compare me to myself, but if you compare me to other people I am not predictable, which is why I think people often misunderstand me).

There are a lot of qualities in a guy that attract me, but one of my main preferences is for guys with long hair.

I don't know if I really test guys as such. I think I used to test my boyfriend to see if he would give me a certain response that I'd decided was the response that someone who cared about me would have. Obviously that wasn't helpful for our relationship, because people react differently to the same situation and that doesn't necessarily mean that they don't have the same feelings, it just means that their brains are wired differently.

As for guys I'm just trying to hook up with, I see no need to test them... I just engage with them for a while until I am satisfied that we have connected enough for me to feel confident in my decision to hook up with him. The amount of interaction needed depends on how attracted I am in the first place and how charming they are. I think probably about 20% of the population I could become attracted to if they were charming enough their interaction with me, but in general it'd be more like 1% of the population that I'd normally be attracted to. Anyway, so I don't know if that counts as testing, it's more me just sussing out the guy a bit so I feel we have developed a very basic level of trust.

I don't know how I generally convey interest... I guess I try to smile and interact as much as I can. I am pretty shy, but then again sometimes I'll be really direct, so I can't really figure myself out in that regard... Sometimes I'm like a social butterfly, but other times I feel like a social retard. I think I basically work with the situation I've got, and if it lends itself well to all the right behaviours, then that's exactly what I do. If the situation isn't encouraging, however, then I guess I get worried about what to say and stuff like that.