i wouldn't even pay 100 $ for a bootcamp. 9000?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








???????????????????????????????????????????????????????


They seen you comin.

Do you guys really take this shit seriously?

_________________
When you realize that rejection doesn`t mean shit you`ll try to find a way how to kick your own ass for being an idiot.

[quote="debugger"]Do you guys really take this shit seriously?[/quote]

I really LOVE your REJECTION quote at the bottom of your messages xD.

holy shit! people are paying 9000 pound for that crap!!!!!!!

wow..

fuck them I wouldnt pay a cent AND I would slander them on the internet. Im 100% against PUA profiting, I think its pathetic

The only thing I'm learning is that VA needs a proper formal dispute response. Something like what I use. "We're very sorry we weren't able to come to a mutually beneficial resolution with you and/or of your affiliates, subsidiaries or other entities involved in the aforesaid transaction. We consider the matter now closed.. Etc...

Btw why the hell is this posted here? Talk about negative energy. And we all know negative energy gets all the girls.

Next topic.

_________________
"Success is more important than being right." We all have a little nerdiness in us. The trick is to find it.

just sounded like some fat washed up guy in his office making empty threats "now this is personal"
lol.
slanderslanderslander

What the fuck would you pay 9 grand for time/a course with a pua???!!

I've learned loads already just from being on this site!!!

Hello I am the OP on PUA hate.

Yes this all happened. I agree on your Thailand theory, I wish I had done that. But you live and learn I am still trying to pay the loan off I have £3,000 to go.

Subsequent to all of this I discovered that Discovery aka Shaun Michael Adams (SMA) of Venusian arts is bankrupt, check the UK insolvency register. I re read the set of emails sent to me whilst I was on the coaching program and Ross Jeffries wrote an article about how Discovery encourages his students to lie infield.

I can't post links yet so please google "An Open Letter To Mystery, AKA Erik Von Markovic-Are..." from RJ's site PUA fraud

I also found out that the man did not inform the UK government of his earnings with Venusian Arts. Due to my informing the Insolvency service they got SMA to agree to pay back his creditors 6-7k a month previously he would have got away scot free if it wern't for my help. This is the only consolation I have, regarding to this corrupt con man.

Again I can't post links please google "Shaun Michael Adams aka Discovery fails to declare income TO THE GOVERNMENT" and read my article on PUA hate

I am trying to take him to court to get my money back but he won't respond and you need an address in order to take someone to a small claims court. But contact me and I will keep you updated.

Both sides let their emotions get the better of them. The dude posting pretty obviously should have done the math first, or just found a different way to get the training he needed without paying 10k. Discovery (much more so at fault) because he attempted to use (or at least threatened to use) his resources as a business to bully individuals. If there's one good rule of service based businesses it's this: the customer is always right. Otherwise something like *this* could happen (aka. Giant Charlie Foxtrot).

_________________
The question is not whether you will be set up for failure; but instead whether you will choose to accept it.

That's so much money to spend on something like a bootcamp if you took out a loan to do it. I agree with the previous poster about a trip to thailand, add in a new wardrobe, some pua books and videos and some practice you'd probably be in a better place for less than 9k pounds.

Good job exposing those conmen though, they sound super slimy.

1)We have to be 100% sure that this story is true. Did anyone call the guy from Myster's department. Christopher Flack really owes them 1.000 pounds? Just a guess here, no offense.

2)Paying 10.000 pounds is a hell lot of crazy amount and I'm against teach PUA methods for making profit! Just download the 2 seasons at VH1, read "The Game" and "Body Language" books, watch your Inner game, and you're fine! Duuuh! Also, taking loan for this purpose really sucks

3)Just pay the god damn 1.000 pounds and let them go. If this guy goes to court, they are both guilty. The buyer because he signed a contract and the seller because he threatened him. They won't go to jail of course, but they will pay much more in lawyers and court.

Hello Boss,

Thank you for your message. Shaun Michael Adams aka Discovery of the Venusian Arts really did make those threats, please contact Mystery and or Venusian Arts and ask them they will not deny it. (They will probably try and reframe it though)

This has also been posted all over Ross Jeffries site PUA fraud.

I am in the process of trying to take SMA to court to try and get my money back. Read the thread on PUA Hate Shaun Michael Adams fails to declare income to the government, he is guilty of trying to get out of paying his creditors back aprox £140,000 in debts and because of my information they were able to force him into paying back what he owes. He is a con man, trying to con the government and banks out of their money.

Venusian Arts still let him work in full capacity.

We have exchanged a few legal threats all details can be found on PUA Hate otherwise please contact me on PUA hate (same user name) if you wish to know more or to speak to me.

After the threats I think it would not be cognisant to continue any form of business relationship. Paying for the coaching program was the stupidest thing I have ever done in my life.

Yes I should have gone to Thailand that is a much better suggestion. Next time eh

£10,000!?!?!?!

Really?

I'm not a math whiz, but how many escorts can you buy with that kind of money?

If you have 10,000 to drop for a bootcamp, you don't need game
You just gotta stunt a lil bit at the club and BOOM there you go, pussy flocks to you

_________________

Check out my blog: GDBCrew.com http://gdbcrew.com
Always down to sarge in NYC - Holla at me

With that much money, I would go to new york, london, etc. and party almost everyday. Do a lot of approaches and hone my skills to be a formidable PUA. You can even find PUA lairs in most major cities in case you don't want to sarge alone. The level of experience, fun and adventure would change your life forever and no bootcamp can do that much for you.

Another option is to take a badass Eurotrip. You'd have the best time of your life, meet so many people, experience so many cultures, women, etc. You would create DHV stories from that. Learn seduction and how some methods are universal in the world. Makes me want to jump on a plane just thinking about all that awesomeness.

Fortune favors the bold. You chose the bootcamp cause you wanted someone to hold your hand through this instead of coming out of your comfort zone on your onw. You took the easier route and got screwed for it. Hope this is a life lesson to you and now you realize you can do better on your own.