just back on the game after a divorce. got a girl's number on friday after my band played a gig. she's nice and we had a good chat, some touching etc.

I rang her the day after and she didn't answer. didn't ring back today.

What does the forum reckon I should do? Ring again, or leave it?

early contact should always be started off with text. She could be busy, you never know. I myself get miss call and is too busy to return them especially when I am at work or something. Texting, you have time.

ok, welcome to the game man, girls give their numbers away like candy, get more numbers, learn how to get them better, try to just have sex with girls, same day, same time, and not get the number, get the number as a response to can't do it now, and expect flakes unless your game was tight and you got some good signs and exchanged some good vibes and commonalities, and she told you a bunch of stuff about herself and you showed a bit of interest in her being just like the kind of girl you were lookin for and you chilled for a good while, even still, I find the results from number are wildly random, I have been told by some they get good results from phone numbers, but not me, I think it all just depends on how into you the girl is, if she is big time into you, you got the number and a meet, if not, she gave the number to make you happy at the time, and is not all that into you, she will just not answer/flake on meetups, more comfort can solve the meetups sometimes, but most of the time, it is a waste of time, it is easier to just to make some excuse that advertises your house, get her back there, once at the house, go for a makeout and get her/you naked it wastes less time, better to get the rejection now in person (when it is harder for her to reject due to tension) then later, when she is safe behind her phone

GOOD LUCK

good luck

Thanks for the advice guys. Still haven't phoned back. Reckon i'll phone her tomorrow with "i'm going to see a band, why don't you come along?"

Good work man!

I would sent her a text message... You tried calling and it was annoying, texting takes less effort and shows that you are starting to lose interest... It is like second notice.

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I had problems with numbers for a long time and tbh I still get flakes. But I've improved them by building more comfort and rapport, a lot of the time after making out I'll slow things down and take them somewhere quieter to get to know one another. It definitely cuts down on flaking imo.

Thanks guys, will send a text later.

I'm quite enjoying this Beats being in a shitty marriage hands down!

Any good text openers?

ok. I sent this opener I got from a thread when I did a text search.

"I just saw something today that reminded me of you."

her "Who's this??

me "S from Friday."

This was at about 10 last night.

At 4.30 I receive:" What was it that you saw? xx"

Will keep her waiting for a while.

hey steve when you get dead numbers and girls ask who's this?, that is a bad sign, same thing with girls that always have excuses for meeting up with you but if you ever want to try to revive dead numbers and you get a who's this, some personal favorites are

prince charming,
the man of your dreams,
guess who it is, if you do, you win something...

(consider who's this as her trying to shit test you, with a hoop, don't jump through that hoop, makes you look like someone unimportant, it is still fairly unimportant, but if she is going to tool you with, hurr hurr I donno who you are/removed your number, then you should tool her back)


the opener doesn't matter too much, something open ended and ambiguous will grab attention better, but to check interest/mood it is probably easier to use something closed that doesn't require an answer, and then of coarse there is always just a regular greeting

*eg. of open ambiguous*,

whoaaa you are not going to believe this!!
you will never guess what happened today :O

*eg. of closed interest checkers*

YEP, IM FUCKING AWESOME
CONGRATULATIONS!!
wow gum sure is chewy
I like pie
Holy shit, slugs have four noses, that's crazy!!

*eg. of regular greetings*

Hey, whats up?
yooooooooo, how are you?
Are you still alive?, been a while!!
hey
hi
sup
yo
holla
shallom
bonjour
allo?
bounjourno
go ni chi wa, bia bia!!
neeee how!


there is also a list of cheesy/funny openers somewhere in the routines section, with a crap ton of openers, you don't really have to be too amazing, to be honest you want to tone it down a bit here and there, girls expect congruence if you are congruently always trying to cause emotional spikes they will come to expect it, you become their entertainer, and when you can't deliver they will lose interest, make sure you are balancing awesomeness with normal boringness, don't try too hard, let her invest for the awesomeness instead of just giving it all the time 24/7

Thanks Pumpington, I got a response from the "I saw something that reminded me of you" opener, though. and a little x at the end.

Ah well, fucked it up.

Texted her last night after "the I saw something that reminded me of you..."

I didn't want to say I saw a cute girl in the supermarket or something.
So I said I saw a prog on tv about someone who spoke 4 languages: she told me last week she spoke six.

She replies: " Ha Ha, That is probably the nerdiest text I've ever got, what do you really want to say to me?"

I was taken aback and didn't know what to reply with. Was this an invitation to ask her out? Anyway i wasn't going to ask her out after that (probably have seemed needy?)

I just said, "lol, yeah, but I admire people who speak more than one language" I am cringeging as I'm typing this. With hindsight it would have been better to say I saw a cute girl or something.

Anyway, it's good practice after being away for so long. And it's enjoyable.

The thing is, I'm a funny guy the polar opposite of a nerd, this texting is hard.

What does the forum think I should do next?

There's also a lovely girl who works in a bar who I've demonstrated DHV to on two occasions. Last week some guy I didn't know complemented my guitar playing in front of her, and last night another stranger bought me a beer cos I was "a great laugh" at a different bar on Saturday night.

I dont get all this slowmotion pickup people seem to like nowadays...

You demonstrated DHV on 2 occasions? So you have already met her twice or more and havent got further than A2? Excuse my MM lingo.

You need to escalate and keep moving, never lose momentum.

For the text girl... That was a shit test. The worst thing you can do is to get offended. Just tell her that "Me nerdy? With my new Wolverine pencilcase I will rule the comicbook convention! "

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Thanks for the advice, but what does A2 mean?

Do you reckon the text girl is worth a bit moré effort or is done?

A2 means attraction phase 2... Which is where female to male attraction occurs. Meaning that this is where you get her interested in you.

Without that it is difficult to move on ahead without going into the LJBF zone.

Basically if you try to build comfort before making sure you got enough attraction you are gonna end up in the friends zone and yes it is possible to get out of it but it is an unnecessary amount of work. So try building attraction before too much time has passed or the relation will deepen without that hint of sexuality that will make it a romantic interaction...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn