So here's what happened. Class ended and I was walking with my friend saying, "Damn bro, look at that girl ahead of us, she got a fine ass." He then said, "Oh I know her, I gotta ask her about the study group." Then I said, "Well go ask her." He refused. So I go up to her out of nowhere and say, "My friend needs to ask you something." She looked at me weird then turned around and saw him and said "Oh hey!" After they got done talking, her focus was back on me. I said: "Actually I thought you looked interesting so I wanted to know who you are." I put out my hand and say "I'm Chris." She shakes my hand and says "Kristen." I kept holding on to it after while walking backwards as she was walking to her place. She smiled the whole time and kept holding on, she seemed into it 100%. I asked her some normal bs questions then finally my friend left saying "Well..ima leave this up to the both of you " I then caress her hand, she pulls finally pulled it back a little bit and then I get her number. After that I grab her hand and kiss her on the cheek and walk away. She giggled and blushed. I then called her later but she told me to text her because she was driving. I then text her and just get her facebook instead. I waited until the next class so I could ask her in person, "I want to see you next week, is Friday good for you?" She said, "Yes."

The next class, I came in and sat right next to her without saying a word. I let her open me first. She kept her back slightly turned at me and "pretending" to talk to all the other guys on her left side. She then made eye contact with me and shyly smiled. I smiled too and manly said, "Hey." My friend laughed and said, "Dude why didn't you just say, YO. or something...EY YO MY NIGGA." Anyways, during class we were watching a movie while I was drawing some girl in a two piece. We would stay still then when I would look down at my phone, I could see her moving and looking down at my hands from the corner of my eye.

After class I asked her with a grin, "Where are you headed?" She said, "THE library." Then I twist around up to the front of her face and slyly asked, "..What you doing in the library?" She said "Studying." I then asked her, "So you said you play volleyball, you play for the university?" She said, "No, club." Me: why not university? Her: too much work. Me: Well from the looks of your body, I could see you playing volleyball, yeah. (while literally checking her out to make it obvious.) Anyways, she was getting all nervous and randomly started saying "Babe" on her phone and told me that her boyfriend is picking her up.

I texted her later and this is how it went:

me: let's play some innocent volleyball tomorrow or something
her: i have plans with my friends tomorrow
me: >.> hey how bout we go on a hike
her: I dont think I know you that well. you seem nice but i dont think my boyfriend would like us being alone on a hike
me: Why, you dont think you can keep ur hands off me?
her: I think you got the wrong idea
me: I always get wrong idea
her: I just don't want you to think anything more than we are friends because I do have a boyfriend.
me: haha ight. well if anything happens, we can always go skydiving
her: what does that even mean?
me: it means we jump out of an airplane and make out on the way down
her: OKAY. I'll bring my boyfriend to make out with and you can bring one of your friends.
me: Lol makeout party

We'll see what she says next. Anyways, I'm not trying to compete for the boyfriend role, I'm going for the secret lover position. Who cares about the stats of her boyfriend, I got other plans up my sleeve with this girl. I tried to keep a calm reaction to resistance while being persistent WITHOUT trying to convince her. I let her resist me so it can be heard so I can now be part of the official record. She's trying to friendzone me but I'm not letting her. Even if it all goes downhill, at least the fact that I'll never be friends with this girl for the rest of my life is officially established.

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TL;DR. Stay away from this guy's girl man that's just disrespectful. There are plenty of single girls to go around.

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actually it looks like shes doing a pretty good job of friend zoning you

Hahahaha, wow.

No, you have no chance. None whatsoever.

This is horrible OP. all you did was beg for her to go out with you.

And this is why we don't try to steal other guys girlfriends...

You make yourself look like a fucking dumbass


Chris, I'm almost sorry for sounding harsh....But its obvious that you are extremely desperate for a females attention...You need to work on this....You're basically begging a taken women to go out with you...Even when she says she has a boyfriend, you agree to having him come along to make out with.. Do you see the desperation here? That shit is just wrong and unacceptable..You're a man.. But you're acting like a desperate, needy, 5th grader.


And you're going for the secret lover position?? You have other plans up your sleeve?? I would like to hear more about this...


For future reference, you have a much better shot at becoming a secret lover of a girl who does not have a boyfriend. You will be more respected for it too.

she def seemed interested at first but u blew it with desperation ...i gonna go with u gotta b more interesting give her push pull u just did pull pull and she did push push
she obviously didn't give a shit about her bf at first

FYI she may or may not have a boyfriend, from what you wrote. As far as I can tell you were just sorta creepy.

Chris...you're the same dude that deleted the one girl from facebook because you were jerkin off to her pictures???


That seemed to work for you. Did it not?


So maybe next time you meet a complete stranger....build up that comfort level.. Don't be so needy/desperate....and just build that comfort...then maybe when it comes around to her adding you on facebook, you can drop that classic line of yours lol

You act too neady, and beging for the girl is so bad. And one more thing stay away from the girls who have boyfriend, maybe is the boy some psich, and he will knock you down, stay away really.

Nope, I didn't beg. I was being persistent and constantly escalating. And creepy is good, you WANT to be creepy if you're trying to seduce. I'm going to the club later. Good. I can't wait to creep out some girls tonight. Being persistent is attractive. Being needy is not. The difference between the two is that the needy version tries to CONVINCE the girl. I never tried to convince her. I let her rejection be loud and clear, I didn't fight it, I just ignored it and tried again. You know another reason why she doesn't see me as needy? It's because I am sexually aggressive. I'm not a poor sensitive faggot wanting her to like ME. I could care less if she likes ME. All I need to get across is that I see her a sex object and I'm waving my cock in front of her face like hail mary. Now THAT'S being male. I am offering her what most of these guys can't: fast, no strings attached passionate sex with a stranger. Third reason is that I was completely calm when she would resist me. Being needy would also mean getting worked up. Now where in the world do you see me being worked up in that conversation? As a matter of fact, I was just giving myself a good laugh. I was getting a kick out of that shit, brah.

Most guys are dumb due to society having conditioned them to be pussies. They think you have to do more shit to the girl and be more interesting. Push pull. What a load of horseshit. What the fuck does that mean? Why try to play head games with her to get her interest when escalating on her can do just the same AND from a much more masculine position? I'm not trying to be the BOYFRIEND. I'm trying to be the SECRET LOVER. In fact, her saying she has a boyfriend is great! She doesn't want a relationship with me. Just sex. Her boyfriend could be 6'6", drives a mustang, big fucking shoes to fill. I'm not the boyfriend. I'm not there to tell her whose better. She doesn't want to choose one or the other. She wants the whole fucking 9 yards. A provider and a lover. It is VERY attractive when you try to go in for a kiss to a girl that has a boyfriend, that takes a lot of fucking balls man. Why the hell is all this bullshit useful to know? Because girls are turned on by confidence just as much as we're turned on by Megan Fox slobbering all over our cocks.

And nothing is wrong with hitting on another guy's girl. You all act as if once a girl says she has a boyfriend, she is taken 100%. That's it, kaput, zilch, zero. 2012. It's all bullshit. You know why? Because being persistent, escalating, constantly putting that intention in her mind that you would fuck her, all help you seduce her because doing all those things is...ATTRACTIVE. She's not taken at all, she can fuck who she wants, when she wants. No one is anyone else's property. Damn man, shit's even true when it comes to marriage. You see all them married horny milfs on websites designed to find a sexual partner to cheat with. Goddamn, this is why relationships end. Everyone starts to make the other person their property and in the end they're just insecure/jealous, always arguing and forgot the last time they kissed.

You want to get close to the girl, you want her to feel uncomfortable, get her heart beating. These are signs of attraction, building the sexual tension. What you guys are saying is to walk around castrated and give up my manhood. Believe me, I perfectly know what being needy really is so it's not like I don't know what I'm doing. Hope that this post made things a lot more clear.

Being sexually aggressive may give off the impression of being needy. But when you blame your sexual aggressiveness on her like "Stop being so sexy, it's not going to work on me." Or you put her hand on your thigh or cock and you say, "It's all your fault" then my good friend, you have turned the tables upside down.

....It's all your fault you dirty little slut.

-All credit goes to 60 years of challenge.

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