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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:41 am 
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I went out tonight (wednesday) at the local club. Not too busy tonight, but enough people to have a small crowd (it is a college town).

So I walked in, used the stealth attraction methods. I forced IOI's as I moved about the club and opened several sets. Many of the sets had boyfriends or other male obstacles (Still haven't practiced neutralizing male obstacles). I eventually found a 3 set, all female, with the target sitting in the middle (HB8). I forced the IOI on the target and opened the group. Gave myself a false time constraint, and took a seat. After being friendly to her friends for a few moments, I ran a couple of routines on the target. The friends seemed interested, but also recognized that things were going well for me and my target, so they excused themself to get a drink, and didn't come back. I moved the target to standing for a while.. "I just can't sit for too long, I have too much energy, let's get a drink!" She agreed, so I took her hand and lead her to the bar. There was loud music, so she couldn't hear what I ordered (Tonic and lime). She ordered a cranberry vodka and looked at me expectantly, as if I were supposed to pay for her drink, then she reached into her pocket and bought her own drink.

I can't be sure if this was a shit test, or if I was supposed to buy her drink because I suggested we go get one at the bar, so I need some feedback on this one.

We turned around at the bar and continued our conversation. What really got her hooked was when I asked what she did for a living, she told me, and then I asked "why"? She was taken aback by the question, because she was expecting something along the lines of "Do you like it?" When I asked why, it forced her to do more than let me scratch the surface of her personality. She was not only enticed to tell me about her deeper feelings about her professional life, but she almost had to open up to me. I was able to recognize this process. As we talked about her inner thoughts, I started touching lightly to emphasize certain phrases, and eventually had my arm around her. The push-pull method applied to my kino as well. After a few more minutes, I had k-closed and # closed.

This is my 3rd time out sarging in the last week, and I'm still new to this community, but I've taken the principles I've learned here, and put them to use. I've found it's easy to watch the process of attraction once you learn the principles in your own way. For instance, you can write them down over and over. You can meditate on situations. Personally, I do a little of both, and immersing myself in the process of attraction has gotten me my first k-close since I joined the pua community in just a couple of weeks. Obviously, everyone starts on different levels, so a couple of weeks maybe too fast to expect anything. I may have just gotten lucky, but something tells me that watching the progress as it went, and acting accordingly tilted the scales in my favor.

Also, one of my sticking points had been kino, and I've found I'm much more comfortable going kino from a standing position, rather than sitting. Something else I'll have to work on.

Male obstacles terrify me because I don't want to force an IOI, get a good response, only to be blown out by the amog bf. My options will greatly expand if I can move past opening and hooking with the male obstacles still there. Any suggestions?

Feedback, both positive and negative critizism is welcome and appreciated.


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Male obstacles are cake bro. Watch SportsCenter and talk to them about football. High five them, slap them on the back, be really fucking friendly. Then take their girl.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:54 am 
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Male obstacles are cake bro. Watch SportsCenter and talk to them about football. High five them, slap them on the back, be really fucking friendly. Then take their girl.
Sounds like it should be easy, but this is a huge sticking point for me. As long as it's only females in set, I'm golden. The problem is that the males seem to sense that I'm picking up their girlfriend/friend when I have gone into sets with males, and of course they want to be protective. I don't think it's cool to pick up someone's girlfriend, so I assume it's just a friend that they're with, and I try to pay attention to who the male obstacle seems to pay the most attention to. However, sometimes it is still difficult, so the idea of moving past hooking a set with male obstacles still messes with my mind.

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Male obstacles are cake bro. Watch SportsCenter and talk to them about football. High five them, slap them on the back, be really fucking friendly. Then take their girl.
Sounds like it should be easy, but this is a huge sticking point for me. As long as it's only females in set, I'm golden. The problem is that the males seem to sense that I'm picking up their girlfriend/friend when I have gone into sets with males, and of course they want to be protective. I don't think it's cool to pick up someone's girlfriend, so I assume it's just a friend that they're with, and I try to pay attention to who the male obstacle seems to pay the most attention to. However, sometimes it is still difficult, so the idea of moving past hooking a set with male obstacles still messes with my mind.
Guys arn't that bad, your a guy so you should know what other guys are into. If you can win over the guys in the group your guaranteed a number close, they will vouch for you. I've opened a set of guys at a bar specifically because I've seen them with some hot girls, I can then find out which of the girls is single and get an introduction later when I walk past the guys later in the night.

You need to use the guys in set as an asset, your thinking about it all wrong.
I opened a set the other night with two gorgous blondes and a guy. He couldn't be seeing both of them so straight up asked him. He said he was with blonde A and blonde B was tagging along I came in with a great neg "so your the 3rd wheel"
From there it was easy.

Someone should write an article on this: using guys in set for leverage.


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Dude, lightbulb just turned on. I never thought of it that way. I'm gonna use that next weekend

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