Cocky/funny.

Honestly, maybe it's because most guys are not that extremely confident and you have to be the epitome of confident to try this. But honestly, Ive never really seen this work unless the guy intermittently throws in a bittle of humbleness and funniness and shows he's just kidding around.

This is completely against my personality but I have tested it out myself and a lot of the time, the girl either is just neutral and then just starts to avoid me or give weird stares. Or she willl just try to be nice about it but then show lots of disinterest. And the worst case scenario is when they just give me the 'stop trying to act cool' or 'i see through your phoniness' looks. This one girl, afterwards, would just pretend not to see me but have this 'dont approach me, dont bother me, fuck off' look on her face everytime i came around. But it's OK because the ones who were mean were surprisingly the uglier, worse personality girls I didnt care for anyways.
Anyhow, my point is. How does this work? I mean obviously I came off arrogant to them. But I see these field reports and they say these things that are just preposterous to start a conversation like "Ahh you know you liked it! So if I would have like slapped you on the ass! You would slap me on the ass back because I did it first? "

From a LOT of field reports, I see these guys get a little attention from the girls then they go overboard with the stuff like the quote I just mentioned and then they will always get positive responses from that. Honestly, what has happened in my experience sometimes is with that little initial interest, if i were to come off that strong, the girl would reject me.

I guess it's because I am putting on a person I am not and too worried and reactive about the outcome whereas most of these guys would just laugh if they get blown off or rejected

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It works...you just have to be good at it..

Theres a guy that I use to be real good friends with as a kid...always one of the funniest bastards I've ever known.. He's real quick with the funniest come backs in any situation, on any subject. He's really just a naturally hilarious dude.. Add a little bit of cockiness in there.....girls love it.. Granted sometimes, I don't think he is even aware of what he has...And sometimes his confidence is low....but when he is in the right state....he is ON IT....Also 95% sure he has never hard of David D or read his Cocky/Funny material...or any PUA material...

And there is another guy, in the military with a friend of mine...Dude is a complete fucking douche bag when it comes to talking to girls.....Like a real fuckin asshole.. He's a really cool guy tho, and good friend.....But the way he talks to women when trying to pick them up is like What in the HELL!??1....but you know what? It works for him too........Again, I don't think he is following any "method", he is just being himself.




It seems that people say the stuff doesn't work..are simply doing it wrong. Either not being funny...Being too cocky and coming off as arrogant, or simply worrying too much about being C/F and forgetting all about kino and sexual escalation...

C/F works, it just takes some calibration. When I first learned C/F I was terrible at it. I got some of the same reactions you are talking about. I toned it down to what I would consider "mild" C/F, got better results, and then amped it back up. In my mind all C/F is, is flirting.

I nearly always use c/f and it works well for me. Different horses for different courses I suppose

I always use c/f. But then again my personality is C/F even when I'm not sarging, so it's perfect flirting material for me. You just have to be confidant and know how to deliver it properly. It definitely works.

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There is a big difference in c/f and being a bully
almost every guy i have worked with beginning to end
have mistranslated c/f with being a bully
you should never put a woman down
neging is way overplayed with newbies
Arrogant is not attractive
bullying girls is not attractive
the objective is not to show the girl your better than her
simply show the girl that she should want you
and the she is going to have to work to get you

It's become obvious to these girls that cocky/funny isn't congruent with your personality. Maybe you aren't actually confident, and you reveal that with your body language, tonality, etc. Then they see that you're acting a certain way, and wonder why you're doing it. The obvious answer is that you're picking them up.

The choice here becomes: You can either persist with the cocky/funny material until it starts to be more genuinely part of your personality, or you can shift your style. C/F isn't the key in itself, it's in presenting yourself as a confident person, and that is an easy, vocal way to do it. You can also learn to be confident while saying things that are more your style.

Yes, that should be a big warning in the books: be careful on how cocky you are and adapt your c/f to the mood the girl is in, and the overall energy levels.

When I just started PUA-ing, a remember having good rapport with a girl and I would neg her, and give her a compliment, in an alternating fashion, which helped me do some kino escalation. When I was probably less then ten minutes away from a K-close, things seemed good and I negged her on something she didn't know about and got what seemed really upset. She told me I was arrogant and condescending.

It took me another hour before I got that K-close ...

This is WHY you are getting no success with it. You don't get someone who hates maths to try and do a math degree because they won't enjoy it and wont be good at it (normally).

But to clarify a few things, that in my opinion are incorrect in this thread.
If you are arrogant in a way that means you put other people down, that isn't attractive. If you are CONFIDENT in the fact you are simply more skilful and successful than others, you can get away with it. The key however, is the funny - always saying it in a half joking way so they aren't sure IF you are joking or not. Again, it is a hard thing to explain but generally; don't look down on others, look well on yourself.

This isn't the key though to making C/F work, its far more simple:

For C/F to work, or anything similar (confidence/slight narcissism) you MUST appear to justify your belief in yourself.

By this, I simply mean that if you see a guy who is 20stone fat ass at a bar telling everyone how he is the best marathon runner in the world it just doesn't seem genuine. Likewise, if the nerdy kid with no friends starts telling a girl how popular and awesome he is, then people are going to laugh or find it strange. However, if a guy is with a group of people who are all having fun - he looks attractive and responds to a girls comment with something like "your only hitting on me cos I am fucking sexy " - then it is funny and attractive; because its partly true and BELIEVABLE!


Does that make more sense to people?

cocky funny works for me. It fits my personality. I have good inner game.

Many naturals who are cocky funny have really good inner game.


BUT It is not just having good inner game, it is a way of thinking.

you need to embrace the idea of being cocky funny inorder for it to work.

Like what Madals wrote, you need to believe in yourself and what you are saying. If you dont, then girls will look at you like you are a weirdo. Its all confidence, body language and the way your frame yourself

I recommend reading this http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/cocky-and-funny/ It explains cocky funny in simple terms. Cocky funny is basically teasing, amusing yourself and creating jokes.

this is why being cocky funny is one of the easiest, fastest and most fun ways to make women attracted to you.

I get many numbers and some kcloses every weekend from just being cocky funny. But inorder to get to a higher level and get fcloses, you need to incorporate cocky funny with other techniques, like 60YOC, shock and awe, etc


If cocky funny doesnt work for you, work on your inner game or find other techniques that do work for you.

I personally cant stand Mystery Method, i feel claustrophobic when i talk to girls with that many rules.

Research and find methods that work for you and tailor your game to revolve around those techniques you find effective. That way you will be more effective in gaming girls which will lead to more success in the field.

Good luck

J Slay

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As the previous posters say cocky funny, works, but it has to be congruent with your personality, make the game fit you and your personality no the other way around, cocky, funny, sexual works wonders is really really good...Most really good naturals have some if not a lot of cocky funny in their game, since they pull a lot(cocky)...also when you are funny you can fuck up many times, and the girl will forgive you as long as they are having fun... therefore perfect combination, and if you can mix it with sexual, you have an atomic bomb...

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That's what makes it funny. Making her guess if you're serious or not and then releasing the pressure is exactly how she knows you are a little cocky and a lot funny rather than cocky arrogant.

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C/F works, but it's incredibly hard to do right if you're not a natural at it. If you are too cocky or too goofy it doesn't work, it's a pretty delicate balance.