Many guys including me last night, get cockblocked by a girls friends.

Without guys themselves, or just to be protective, they prevent isolation, closing or taking her home. They are similar to AMOGs but of course different in that they are bitchy, bossy and jealous of their friend having a guy compared to themselves.

I try to talk to the girls and tell them they are a pussy-block for their friend but often they laugh and still act bitchy.

How can you diffuse one of these girls' anger or her protectiveness for her friend to allow you to fclose?

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fuck i had same senario last night...atleast twice...
both sets i hit on were on the street...as its saturday night and easier to figure if girls are without guys when they are walking between bars...good tip to you guys...
anyhow first set...are a rarity as the cockblocking bitch was fucking rude as fuck to me, just cos i hit on her friend and her friend started to join in..peer pressure...so i was rude back...I said to the target loud and clear...i only hit on u cos ur cute..but ur friend is fugly...this got a big smile out of the target and a mouthfull of predicatable swearing from the cockblock..but fuck it there was no way past this bitch hahaha.
Second set also on street...i bullshitted that i needed directions to the bar i just left 2 minutes previously hahaha
turned out they were going to the same bar..cute girl said i could walk to it with them..fugly friend walked 10 feet ahead of us...i then admitted to cutie i really knew where the bar was...stupid move on my part....and fugly friend pulled her cute friend ahead and away from me...bad guy hahahaha..
yes it dont answer ur question...just thought id add my bullshit from lastnight hahaha

buy her a drink

Win over her friends (no matter how fugly) first.
Establish some sort of interesting (non-sexual) conversation with the friends first.
Pay no attention to the target, hold conversation with friends.
IF target butts in "Oh I was talking to your friends, don't be rude, wait your turn!"
This disarms the obstacles.

under no circumstances would i buy a drink for an ugly or bitchy or cockblocking woman. there is no point. it wont win them over at all


what happens if u close the girl first and then meet the friends? or if u show interest (no matter how little or non sexual) to her friends your target is going to find someone else?

often this is the case at house/frat parties. your method definitely works at bars/clubs when you meet the target at the same time as her friends. at bars you open the whole group. at house/frat parties, this is rarely the case.

how about for parties:
- Open HB
- Open and Win over her friends
- Establish friendliness/comfort/rapport with friends
- Isolate target
- Close[/quote]

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cockblocking bitches...i fucking hate em...to be honest it really decreases my attraction level to any girl who hangs out with these she devils...its like no u aint hot enough to warrant me chipping away at ur fugly friend for an hour just so i can talk to u without being told to fuck off.
seriously....
and who ever said by em drinks...noooooo way fucking ever....i never even buy targets a drink...fuck that....guys still do that shit dont they...i spotted a girl with her friend in a club....knew i would hit on her but i first sat back and let some other chump fill them with long island ice tee all night...then i fucking hit on her and f closed....

Look i am like most guys...i dont wanna be nice to some blocking bitch...and i find it very afc to be a fake nice guy...
at some point in the night look to see if the target goes for a piss or whatever and u have a window to infiltrate her...fuck spending all night trying to please her bitch friends...fuck that.

as far as i know the only way to get past these bitches is to use a wingman who is willing to run distraction or at worst take one for the team.

"its like no u aint hot enough to warrant me chipping away at ur fugly friend for an hour just so i can talk to u without being told to fuck off" amen to that brotha

second part, its so clutch. routinely close girls later on in the night after they have had their drinks or bitch shields up the whole night. they are horny and dtf

last night i wanted to smack the cockblocking bitches. they were 4 of them, and two of us with two of their friends. both of us were fed up and wanted to bounce with our girls but of course, the four didnt want to leave their friends even though our girls were having fun and they werent. stupid bitches

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what happens if u close the girl first and then meet the friends?

If you close the girl first (#,kiss,f-close) then you're getting blocked by her friends you have a problem. If she genuinely likes you that much, she should disarm her friends. But the key here, for you, is to Demonstrate Higher Value. Tell them about something adorable that happened (the time your friend [insert female name] and you saved that box of kittens from the side of the road by bringing them to the shelter). Make sure it doesn't come off as bragging. By DHVing to the friends and paying less attention to the target they are being disarmed. You never want to alienate the target's friends until they think you are WORTH her time.


or if u show interest (no matter how little or non sexual) to her friends your target is going to find someone else?

You lock your target in with a "lock-in-prop" of yours to prevent her from walking away. A hat, necklace, bracelet. Something you have to get back from her at some point. It shouldn't take long to win the approval of her friends. If she does wander off in that time, you'll have a reason to go back to her and get your prop later.

you have to befriend the friends, do not focus so much on isolation, again befriend and look for a way in which you adjust the body language so when you are escalating, she is not facing the friends. for example when i hook up i find a way for them in the middle of the dancefloor give the back to her friends, and i make out, i hardly ever isolate, pre-makeout...you got a game friends + target...Also hook friends up with other guys even if you do not know the other guys..

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exactly . Girls are like toddlers they get jealous if you give something else your attention , so you give the whole group your attention equally ( at first) , win them over and then pull your target over to the side and bam !

Skills is right.

The thing is, you have gone wrong before the stage where they start cockblocking you. It has been going bad for quite some time.

You need the approval of her friends or you aint going nowhere with her. The best way to do this is stepping in and merging with the group and then show dominance, when you are already accepted. The friends will actually help you get the girl if they like you. I once had a girl tell me "You are not my type" and her friend stepped in telling her "Oh shut up, he is exactly your type" and sure enough later on the girl invited me home.

So you gotta be the social master, make people feel like they can trust you, even if they cannot. And, make them above all feel like they can trust you with their friend!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Ezo this is exactly my goal , but i would really need a tip of how to make people around me feel more comfortable and relaxed, since a friend told me that my pushiness can sometimes seem like a real attack or something...i know your know nothing about me but is there any general tip you would give so i can be more relaxed and socially stay dominant and respected. I am quite young 19, and doing a good job being interesting to people, but still i don't feel like they trust me or feel free to touch me, hug me or smth...any ideas? Could use some help really Since your post described my goal exactly ...

Be less pushy and more relaxed. A friend of the girl you want is your friend.
Dominance btw really isn't necessary in order to win a girl. Google the pua-term stylemogging or look it up in the book The Game. It's about being dominant while not being the one chatting the most. That's far more effective than chatting non-stop.

What I do (but that doesnt necessarily feel right to you) is that I try to divide my attention to the rest of the group too. I make friendly jokes with the guys and try understanding the girls. I actually give a shit about who they are and what they are telling me. It is called shut up and listen. The more you do that the more you know about them and the easier it is.

They are gonna give you clues to who they are and you can use that to build comfort. If you have problems with being too pushy, maybe try to lay off that a bit and let them do the talking for a few moments.

The first thing I do when I enter a set (except running my regular game which goes automatically) is to cold read them. Figure out what I am up against. Then you take whatever they say and find the keywords, hints that tell you their interest, things that has value to them. That is what you focus your flufftalk on, if you can understand what they are talking about, you can enter their world and show that you can hold your own in it.

It is all about reading them and adjusting your game accordingly...

And focus on everybody, not only your target. Plus if you push the target too much, the others will protect her.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Awesome

Thanks alot Ezo, i see where i went wrong.

Need to incorporate this into my game

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