Hi to all. I'm just new here and just starting to learn the ropes in pick-up community. I just have one quick question. Is it okay to just tell a lie about yourself. I mean everything about yourself? Like where you from, your job, etc...Just like what I always see in the movies or TV. I understand that it's just a movie or TV program, but I want to know from you guys if it does happen in real life. Thanks...

Sure, you can lie to pick up, but why would you want to? Honesty is respectable and you enjoy it more if you are honest and realize that it's you you are trying to please, not whatever you pretend to be.

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funny thing, lots of girls dont even care. There not looking for someone to marry. Just someone to seduce them.

Lots of girls I hooked up with know very little about me. Only thing they know is what they ask. I had girls ask me what I do, I gave them stupid answer and change topic.

well, i just thought of that because I think a lot of women still look for guys who are financially stable, etc... but then, that's why PUA exists. thanks for the advice. so I guess I just have to move on to another HB if someone is looking for the things that I don't have.

You should stop worrying about the things you are not and highlight the things you are.
If marrying a girl is your goal than lying is a stupid thing to do. You can't say you're rich when you are not because she will dump you the instant you fall through.

Sure you can lie. I know some people do.

But NO it's about becoming a more attractive person and like that last person said, about highlighting your good traits.

So it's really about self improvement in life, imo.

Lying can only bring you good things in the short run. In the long run, you always get busted. Do not lie, go and have some life, some activities, you won't have to lie anymore.

The only thing I sometimes lie about is number of girls I slept with. I am afraid the real number would start ASD in some of the girls. But I got burnt even with this one....so my advice is - don't lie. Just don't give a damn about what do they think about you. If they think you're not good enough, it's their problem.

The only thing you have to remember is thus:

YOU are the one who is gaming for YOU. Therefore, everything about your demeanor should reflect what YOU want. If you think of yourself as a chronic liar who does it to get laid, and you're okay with it, fine. If you're the honest, caring type who just wants a girl to love him back, fine. But whatever you do, be confident, assertive, and above all, remember that you're the COOLEST fucker in existence and whatever it is you've got, everyone else wants it.

I feel like you think you're not good enough for the women you're gaming, and if that's true, shut up and listen one more time: Whatever you do, be confident, assertive and above all, remember that you're the COOLEST fucker in existence.

I am not a very spiritual/new age dude, but I started to think about karma when I considered the amount of lying I did with girls back in the day. Basically everything I told my LTRs was fabricated, hyped, or pulled out of thin air. And why did I do this? Because I believed at that time that I was not an awesome guy, that I needed lies to be exciting. And yes, I agree with om3n.

In my last LTR before I discovered game, she actually never knew all the lies and the stuff I told her became things she would bring up years later as pleasant memories about when we first started dating. It was not a good feeling. I have renounced lying.

Thanks for the advice "AznPersuasion". I really like this quote of yours, Whatever you do, be confident, assertive and above all, remember that you're the COOLEST fucker in existence. . Really appreciate it.

Personally I have only told very minor lies that would be of no consequence, like I once told a girl I used to live in an awesome penthouse flat and have amazing parties. I used to go to a penthouse flat for amazing parties but didn't live there. That's about as far as I have gone.

On the whole I try to tell girls the truth and be honest because it makes me feel better, I mean if I like a girl I have a real problem gaming other women at the same time which can cause problems for me with clinginess etc. Deceitfulness and lying are just not in my nature.

I tell girls that I work a job in a supermarket, because I do. It's not ideal but its a job and I'm struggling to find better things, not for lack of trying.

However when describing my shitty job it sounds exciting and as if I am a people person.

Girl: "So how was your day at work?"
Me: "It was really fun actually! My manager and I built a ramp for a toy car and spent the afternoon trying to see how far we could jump it off the desk... etc"

That might sound stupid, but imo it's better than "It was really tiring and I feel miserable." Besides my job is fun because I am usually doing something stupid with my absolutely AMAZING boss.

So I really don't think your profession should matter at all as long as you convey the right attitude.

Your question being is it OK to lie to pick up a girl?

See what you are doing here? You are asking our permission to do something that you are already considering.

What is ok and not is a matter of point of view. No amount of PUA training is gonna clarify what is right or wrong here, your guess is as good as mine. It is entirely up to you... You are in charge, you decide for yourself.

But would I advise you to lie? Absolutely not.

For 2 reasons:

1. Why would you?

2. Lying means that you dont think that you are enough as it is. If you are wrong, there is no need to lie. If you are right, it is your responsability to become who you should be.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

okay. got it. Thanks for this!