Dicklow, from your angry writing it seems that you have tried recently and failed using some of the techniques found on this website. Albeit these methods are very good, none of them can be the most perfect technique. Some are better than others and that is for each PUA to decide. Practice makes perfect bro.

Everyone on this forum can post what they like and everyone else can choose to read it. Yet cliches are common expression because they are true. To "man up" is to become more alpha, or to have better inner game. To touch the HB with kino, is to have better outer game. Members of this forum may have posted many threads about this topic because it is true, we all need better inner and outer game. Their threads were to convince new PUAs to realize they need more effort and change in their mindset and style. Even if you are not a newPUA, this is a good topic to discuss as it summarizes the key tenets or aspects of the pick up game. You do need to stand up to what you perceive is wrong, but in our society many political marches and even occupy wallstreet, do not affect the overall political landscape except after a political election. On this forum, it is like a democracy. Your vote is your choice: you choose to read and comment on a thread or you dont.

But as you said, this forum is to help new PUAs and new PUAs are often insecure and stubborn. What better way to beat the idea into their heads other than showing it to them repeatedly? After they realize that they do need to man up, they will do their own research and put more effort in different pick up methods so that they can eventually be successful in picking up hot women.

Next time, dont be negative at another member, its supposed to be a community after all. Just go help a new member on their first thread instead.

keep it real, keep it positive

J Slay

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Slayin ladies all around the world

You miss 100% of the shots you never take.
- Wayne Gretzky

New techniques can get new results...

new results a new self image..

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Thanks,
Stan

"don't listen to this creeper reputation bullshit, girls like to get hit on / get attention, don't be afraid to do so, girls forgive advances, but they NEVER FORGIVE PUSSIES" - from pumpington

Please quote exactly from the quote you have above that is "angry" writing. I've failed at nothing, I'm quite happy with my sex life, and live a productive life. I just see many "techniques" as being very "counter productive" to the needs of many individuals. Copy and paste doesn't work for everyone, it only works for those who are fakes. I think that's what I'm trying to get at.
Ok, so we are getting to the heart of what I’m trying to find out. Is this website only for a "certain" type of man? Because I've seen plenty of men who society would not deem "Alpha" pick up a lot of hot women. Guys who had horrible body language, posture, and one of them even stuttered while speaking. Yet they pick up lots of women. So is the goal of PUA to help men to get women or to be alpha? The two aren't necessarily intertwined to be honest. And many individuals often get hung up on guys they romanticize from movies. So which is it? Good advice is that which is taken naturally and needs no convincing. Therefore, I am not “convinced” that this sort of “cliché” topic is the end all be all in pick up.
Never said the bolded. I say this website is to help out "MEN" not "PUAs". A very big difference. And "picking up hot women" is subjective at best. The goal of this website is to help men get the women they want. Regardless if someone else believes that she is "hot" or not.
Was keeping it real, you just weren’t listening.

1.) The above is self-conformational bias

2.) The above is not always true, emphasis on the word "can".

3.) Actions do not equal new self-image, new self-image equals new actions. Actions can only reinforce the self-image. It does not work the other way around…

ok dicklow, i dont really care if you can justify what you said, your opinion is your own and mine is my own. But in your responses you seemed very angry but i digress.

This website tries to help people who are too weak, afraid to pick up women. becoming or acting more alpha helps them pick up women as well as change their lifestyle and their outlook. Men who arent alpha pick up women but certainly a more alpha man could do better comparatively. Thats why we suggest to become more alpha, for mental and physical health, and to make it easier to get your dick wet.

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You miss 100% of the shots you never take.
- Wayne Gretzky

Yeah, I know, you have nothing. And unlike you my words aren't opinion, they are facts, backed up by science, research and millions of changed lives. If you want to keep an opinion, that is fine. Some people will never be changed by "facts".
Look, I'm not knocking the "alpha" thing, if that is what someone achieves to be, then that is fine by me. I just wish people would stop portraying it as the end all be all solution to getting pussy. Most new guys who come to this website just want sex. And there is nothing wrong with that. But people often only focus on one universal image that does not fit all men. Many men spend years trying to fight with themselves instead of focusing on what they can do right. Why go through all of that? Being alpha isn't the only way to pick up women and change your outlook in life. That is a misperception that needs to stop.

You have your opinion and thats cool.

But telling people not to be agressive is like telling salespeople not to do trial closes and to ask for the sale...

At this point im going to mind my own business and wish you well.

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Thanks,
Stan

"don't listen to this creeper reputation bullshit, girls like to get hit on / get attention, don't be afraid to do so, girls forgive advances, but they NEVER FORGIVE PUSSIES" - from pumpington

It is not an opinion, it is backed up by fact and science, the other position is not. However, I will not "knock" anyone else’s style. My only "grudge" is with the fact that people seem to think that this "stand-up guy" is the only way to get pussy. I rightfully disagree with that assertion. What works for one man will not always work for other men. That is a fact. If being aggressive is the style of some men, then I certainly won't knock it. But it is not the style of every man, nor is it a "must" when talking to women. I see plenty of men talking to women normally and geting good results. Some how the "myth" of the alpha male pervades the forums. However, I am an old beaten drum. I am not the only member disgruntled by this issue.

There are some things in this post that I agree with. However, I felt the need to address that which I did not agree with. I too hope wish you well in life, it is the least I can do for any man.

I have to agree with Dicklow on this, in some sense.

I had to find my own way of learning this shit. Vageries are a common thing on this forum, which is a given seeming as its only limited bits of text to which you can help someone.




People also havea fasination with nightgame. "i cant open, the bars are too loud!", "have you tried daytime?" "no, i dont do daygame".


Daygame first then move onto nightgame (if you still want to).

it is really easy...................................when you know how

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hot fat and sweaty

Good stuff man, everyone who thinks this stuff is crap fucking wake up, All you need is an IOM to kiss a girl. Went out last night, hand kino-IOM -Makeout. simple

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G4mer

I'm curious about the part where you say you made out with good friends like this, how do you go about making that happen?

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Interesting article. But I have a few questions for OP:

- how many approaches did you do this year ?
- how many lais out of those ?
- what qualifies you to give advice ?
- could you have been more efficient with your post ? (like shorter post , shorter paragraphs , more original information, etc)