The Four Aces by Don Draper



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:49 am 
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It's examinations time. I'm inspired as usual.

So, here I am going to give you the Four Aces.

Cards which when used, give the maximum outcome. As with cards, these are to be used sparingly. You don't go and start shooting aces now, do you? Treat them with the respect that they deserve and I promise you, they will make your pick-up and your subsequent interactions with her, easier. Like they have for me over the years.

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The First Ace: The Ace of Diamonds

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MYSTERY


No, I do not mean the PUA here.

The dictionary describes Mystery as:

mys·ter·y/ˈmist(ə)rē/

Noun:

Something that is difficult or impossible to understand or explain.



If I have to point out one major flaw which a lot, and I repeat myself,a LOT of guys do is that they reveal too much information about them, too soon. In pick-up as well as in subsequent game. Maybe, you got her hooked with the initial set of opener and the easy-breezy conversation. She's just asked you to "Tell me about yourself", now you need to approach that with as few words as possible without being completely obtuse.

It might be the biggest mistake guys make today when trying to meet women is being overzealous, overinvested. You've just met another person, a pseudo-stranger at best. Why are you trying to see her soul? Why would you rather she sees yours? It's about keeping things light and fun. You wanna make her work for information from you, get her interested and then, reveal. Slowly. Dumping her with a truck load of information about your relative's medical issues, and how you cried when your mother was late to pick you up from school one day, is just NOT required. Well, atleast not on the first meeting.

The "tricks" which you read and come across here and in the PUA material work because they delay you from doing what you always did on your own, which is being stupid, dropping all 52 of your cards in her lap and saying, "see?! I'm worth it, I think!"

You want her to think about you past that one chance meeting, you need to leave her hanging for more. If she cannot put a finger on you, means she is unsure, and any great seducer will tell you that confusion and intrigue will work wonders in your favour.

It's like a trailer for a movie, a flash of skin under that dark cloth which teases the senses and entices you to find more about it. It's a hook greater than any canned routine.

Use the Ace of Diamonds initially, cause it's the lowest of the Aces. Yet, not unimportant by any means, whatsoever.

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The Second Ace: The Ace of Clubs

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VARIATION


The dictionary describes Variation as:

var·i·a·tion/ˌve(ə)rēˈāSHən/

Noun:

A change or slight difference in condition, amount, or level, typically with certain limits.



From one of my earlier posts on the forum...

"The basic strategy to use is that you have to continuously keep the interest level on her end. Show her different sides of you, if you're cocky for a while, become vulnerable on some night, if you're uptight on some days, be a dork on the others... Basically, she will be amazed at the depth you project and you will become a challenge to her. She will want to figure you out and try to know everything about you... ...Share stories with her, get her to share her stories, talk about all kinds of things, yes, even the stupid ones... ...on some days be quiet, brash on the others... Variation is the key to interest. "

Variation is also the thing which leads to you getting "depth" to your character. Women appreciate men who can project different sides to them. No one wants to date a one dimensional robot, she wants to know that the guy she's with, he's got all kinds of 'sides' to him, and she would love nothing more than to know them. Women fall in love with us a bit more each time they see or hear about something we said or we did, that they "weren't expecting" from us. To her, it just means that there's more to you that she thought she know. She will invest time and effort to uncover that. Sometimes, that's all you need.

Something I came across on the net, which might be interesting on the topic of "Character Depth"...

"It involves questions like why the character does what the character does, what the character thinks, feels, desires, and hates, where the character came from, and/or how the character sees the world. It may be there in Sub Text, but it still affects the depth of the character.

This is often known as a character being One-Dimensional, Two-Dimensional, or Three-Dimensional.

The Three Dimensions can be thought of thus:

Height: How important the character is to the story/society/person.

Breadth: Variation within a character. The amount of different traits that define them and how well these interact.

Depth: How the character changes the better you know them. If your ogres are like onions, they do indeed have depth.

Examples being..

One Dimensional: A Zombie

Two Dimensional: The Minor Characters in most movies.

Three Dimensional: Everything but the smallest roles in the character study"


(Courtesy of tvtropes.org)

So, remember to exhibit considerable depth. To keep things interesting and lively. But at the same time, don't behave like a woman on extreme mood swings, because then it will just defeat the entire purpose.

Variation/Character Depth is an ace to be used when you are beginning to know her better and it can be continued all through your life. It keeps the sparks happening in every relationship.


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The Third Ace: Ace of Hearts

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"I Love You."


The (urban) dictionary describes this phrase as :

I · love · you [ahy luhv yoo]

The three hardest words to say in the English Language.

When done properly, side effects include: A seeming absence of your stomach, silence, perhaps tears, and an overwhelming joy.



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DISCLAIMER(s):

If you are one of those "kewl dudes" who thinks it's girly to make confessions of love to a woman. Skip this post.

If you are one of those "I-m-in-luv-wid-mahself-n-noone-else" guys, then this isn't for you. Move to the next one, Skippy.

If you're one of those delusional men who "don't believe in such shit". Go angst at the next post.

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Now, that's out of the way.

The Three Big Words, as they are often called, are three very dangerous words abused by pop culture, teenagers and society as a whole. Especially seen by males as a shortcut to get into a woman's pants. Well, this post is to tell you that this one phrase when used properly, can become the game-changer in a relationship. The thing with such a thing as "I Love You" is that it is over-used. Guys going around telling women "Sweetheart, I love you and everything and such shit, but.. blah blah blah", so the declaration is used as a sort of cushion towards a tease/insult.

This is for that time, and that time only, when you want her to know how much you adore her. That you need her and that you feel that your life is incomplete without her. The best thing about a declaration of love is that it is unconditional.

It's a fact. It's not a line. You are just telling her how you feel about her, which is in turn a direct return of how she makes you feel.

Don't try to justify it, don't try to rationalize it. Love is irrational. Also, if you are actually lucky enough to find a girl that you are really, really fond of and you are sure that she likes you back as much as you do. Then, don't hesitate in saying it. Trust me, she will appreciate you didn't wait for her to "say it first". It won't make you lose your power, it would be a weight off your chest. Your cards are on the table, now she has to show hers.

So, just be careful in using this Ace, in regards to the fact that don't say it too soon in a relationship, don't say it too late. Say it when you feel that the time and place demands this conversation.

How will you know when it's right? You always know.


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The Final Ace: Ace of Spades

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VULNERABILITY


The dictionary describes Vulnerability as:

vulner·a·bili·ty

The state of being vulnerable or exposed.



If you want to hear it from the mare's mouth,as to say, then-
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I don’t know what other words to use to express to you how close I felt to him. I really hope you get it. Some of you work so hard to create this “alpha” image, and so you may be thinking “I don’t want her to think of me as a little boy, wtf!?” and if you are, you’ve truly misunderstood my point here- I’ve never seen this guy as anything less than a man. He was and remained “manly” and “alpha” in my eyes even after that conversation ended. What it did though was it made him “real”, and I needed that. We women like to nurture; we need something to feed on once in a while. Give us that, and we’ll inevitably form a sense of attachment to you.
Simply put, that confession of vulnerability is the most powerful card in your deck. That moment when you decide to show her that you're not all James Bond as you seem to be 99% of the time, that you are in fact "human". We, men, have been conditioned to understand that success is not measured by money or power, but by how invulnerable a man is to everyone and everything in his life. The lesser things affect us, the better we are.

But, when we are vulnerable we have a very profound image on the woman who is sharing that moment with us. She knows that that confession does not come easily to us and it does not make her any less masculine in her eyes. Women consider our confession of vulnerability as a proof of how much we are in love with them and how much they mean to us. She will be touched by this, and she will feel loved by this. And she will love you back.

And if she's one of those who uses it to get their own means through you OR who considers you "weak" for sharing, then you atleast know that she is not worth it, in the long run.

This is the most powerful card, and it has the amazing ability to create attachment like nothing else. Sharing memories creates bonds. Be careful with it. Don't abuse this. And do not lie. 'Cause that's the worth, her discovering your big confession was a fabrication and that trust once lost, will never be regained.

Good luck to you.

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Some deep stuff here, you write very creativly, like a story. Nice to read.

How would you call this guideline though? The guide to let her fall in love? Or is this an other card you don't want to reveal yet? :)

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anyone trying to destroy his game should definately read this.
Khuram.

Healthy disagreement makes you an interesting guy to talk to.

Dismissing someone else's idea entirely makes you a radio yakker.

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Some deep stuff here, you write very creativly, like a story. Nice to read.

How would you call this guideline though? The guide to let her fall in love? Or is this an other card you don't want to reveal yet? :)
I guess this is more about aiming towards some strong, fulfilling relationship. I, however,can say for sure that this is NOT for those Same Night Lays or One Night Stands.

This stuff is for prolonged seduction and attraction.

And I appreciate that you found it a good read.

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Excellent read, excellent writing skills.


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the first 2 excellent, the last 2 i disagree, specially the I love you one...Specially with newbies, they will fuck it up. Here:



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this is good, thanks don.


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my 4 aces:

1)flattery
2)kindness
3)sexual escalation
4)honesty

and Joker: providing variety of experiences(emotional or just doing different things)

overall good post Draper.


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Definitly somthing to think about, some great stuff you have here Don

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I've read a long time ago that having a story of vulnerability really touches a woman's heart and you create a deep connection if done right. Your Aces are definitely more suited for relationships and I guess girls you want to be good friends with cause if they care about you then they will hook you up and invite you to events, thus expanding your social circle and making pick up that much easier.


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