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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:39 pm 
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This will be a long story long. I want to include everything I remember so I can get better feedback and become better.

18 months ago, I was introverted AFC with no social skills. I had 1 girl on my scoresheet, not bad for 18yo but not too good either. I wanted to become better, sterted with mystery, then went for direct (gunwitch, de angelo, pilinski and especially SHARK!) and it suits me really well. After 3-4 months of discovering pickup, first results started coming...I became kinda extroverted, became aware of how good I am compared to the "general population" and basically had constant success although I am picky. I scored 19 girls over the last 13-14 months, 16 of them were at least 7's, but there were also some lows, when I just had too much booze and settled for 4's and once even for a 3. Well, at least I got some funny stories to tell. :)

What this means is that my ego and confidence has solid backup in my previous experience, girls quite dig me and I don't get rejected often....maybe because I don't game girls I don't feel I have vibe with.

One month ago, I was hitting my all-time peak. New girls (college freshmen) all around. I have chosen 7 over two weeks, then banged 5 of them in 5 consecutive nights. I felt like a king. I kept seeing (banging) 3 of them which I considered good. One of them was particularly good and hot, she's blonde HB9 w/o makeup and HB10 with makeup. She surely is not perfect, but she is one of best I ever had.

Sooner or later, I dropped them all but this one. I liked her in bed, I liked to talk to her, etc....so it started like this....

....she basically came to me on one party, grabbed my butt and made out with me. I went autopilot C/F, push pull and so on, it took me 5 minutes to get her to my room. She was using the usual girl stuff like "I'm so drunk" "You're completely responsible for this" etc. I didn't mind. It's fair to mention she had a boyfriend at that time for about 2 years but she said it was falling apart (I generally have respect for WORKING relationships and stay away). After the sex she kept telling me how handsome I am, how much she liked it, etc. We met again the next night, it was running under the very same scenario. Then she left home for a couple of days, back then I had her by the tail....I simply could feel she digged me a lot.


A couple days later, she came back to the city (she lives in campus dormitory, I live in the city). She always engaged fb chat, basically telling me she's available etc. I can see it was a mistake but I met her almost on every occasionshe mentioned. Mostly her place, but I took her home once or twice. She kept mentioning how her ex-bf (they broke up) has hard time dealing with the end of them, I countered with my problems of the same nature. She also kept telling me how handsome I am, how she likes the conversation we have, and most importantly, how she enjoys the sex. I never initiated much contact with her, I let her do all the work. And this is where she started bitching about that. I said something to make her bitching look ridiculous and ignored when she brought it up ever again. Also one thing in my mind - she kept asking me intimate questions and she kept leveling them up...for example:

Day 4: How do you see me? I have feelings for you.
Day 7: I kinda like you. Do you like me?
Day 12: I like you. Do you like me?
Day 20: I think I really like you a lot, do you like me too?

the bad thing is, that I answered these in AFCish manner...well, the first one was C/F ("I can't say I don't give a fuck about you"....I said this right after we had sex) but to the others I replied something like yes I do. It was me being honest and probably stupid.

Here's one killer thing I have with my wingman. Basically we go almost everywhere together. If I pickup a girl, he befriends her and vice versa. What is it good for? His girls talk to me when they want to complain about something with him or just to share something, and my girls talk to him. It works like charm! So this HB9 was talking to him way more than to me and he pointed out an interesting thing...he said it seems like she would like a relationship with me but she's afraid to ask because 1) I'm a player = fear of rejection 2) She just broke up with her bf 3) She don't want to scare me too early

We attended some parties "together", I always gamed other girls and she was always pretty jealous of it....but when I wanted to kiss her on public or hold her hand she sometimes pulled back. It pissed me off so I just walked away and gamed anothr girls. Anyway, at the end of the day we usually ended having sex at her place.

Around the day 15, things were a bit slower than in the beginning. In the first days, she was the one to grab my butt and attention at the parties, but now it was mostly me initiating physical contact, although I played other girls. At some point she even asked me if I am sleeping withother girls to which I (rep)lied "No. And it's none of your business since we're not officially together".

Around the day 20, after month of excessive partying and lack of sleep, we went to her place and had sex. My tired body wasn't really prepared and I simply couldn't keep it hard for long enough. I finished her using hand but she was clearly unhappy anyway. Remember, even after this she said she likes me a lot and asked me if I feel the same. Then we went to a party....we both minded our own businesses as we both had a lot of friends there but at one point I came to her, leaned in but she refused to kiss me, moved her head away so I said "You know, I don't like this kind of games. I know you want me and I want to kiss you. I don't like to see you behave this way." to which she replied "We are not here together. You take us two too seriously.". Ouch. We left together again but it was much colder thatnight as I freezed her out a bit. I didn't want sex, I just stayed there so I could get a sleep as my place was too far.

Then she cut off any contact with me, didn't message me on fb for a week, then I sent her a lil' message stating there's a party the next day so she can come and see me. She replied she probably would, but she didn't. I didn't care, there were other girls. The day after the party she texted me about how was the party. I said it was cool and it's her bad that she wasn't there. No more contact for a couple of days, until yesterday, when she texted me, asking me for a phone number of my friend! It gets even funnier because I'm 100% positive she HAS HIS number. Was she only trying to make me jealous? I responded with simple "no". Today I texted her that there's a party with our mutual friends' gig. She said she would come....and she did.

We've seen each other after 2 weeks, we briefly greeted each other and minded our own business. We ignored each other for about 2 hours, my wingman kept telling me she was eye checking me all the time, I have also seen it, it made me more confident as I have approached about 15 girls. danced with them and made out with about 5. All to provoke her (Yeah, I have feelings for her, I know it's bad but I can't fking help myself).

Then I went out with my 2 girl friends, telling them the story and they agreed that she wants me 100%, but that she just wants me to make the first step. I wasn't sure about their advice, but I understood my sexual life with her is 0 right now and it would stay 0 in case of rejection, so I have nothing to lose.....so I approached the girl, told her I can see she's checking me all the time and that I know she wants me.

I came to her, tried to pull her on the dance floor. She moved away, so I took her away from the dance floor, pinned her on a wall, I asked he "whan's going on? I know you like me so what's the point of these games? I can see through them." to which she replied "It's just I'm not that into you anymore." Five seconds later I came for a kiss, we made out, she started running her hands on my thighs and butt, while looking really seductively in my eyes. I took her to a table, we sat down, had some fun chat, she told me she had no sex in the 14 days (I did not ask) and that she'll be alone in her room during the weekend (are these clues like usual?). I ran some kino on her back, shulder,thighs, no resistance with one exception when she moved my hand from her knee. I immediately put the hand on her thigh - no resistance. And then BANG!!!, she told me she just isn't interested in me that way anymore....I expected that but it did hurt anyway. I did some C/F, all the stuff I know so well, we had some more chat, then she left....I wasn't even brave enough to leave first...what a chump I have become....

Later this night she liked my fb status, something that hasn't happened since the day 20. She used to ignore my fb profile since that day until now.

I asked my another girl friend about this whole thing and she stated the HB9 either wants a relationship and wants me to make a move or that she really want to end the things.

I would appreciate both men and women tell me what to do....I have feelings for her, I admit. So my conclusion is, that no matter how good you are or how good you THINK YOU ARE, some day emotions can defeat you and you will once again be the world's no.1 AFC. At least that's how I feel.

1) What the hell is she about? Does she want me or not? She even told me she doesn't, but I am not expert in being rejected and all these her eye checks, the mention of her being alone, the weird text message of her asking me for a number of a guy whose number she has....the advice of my 2 good girl friends....it confuses the hell out of me and my brain.

2) Can you please point out all my mistakes and crap I've done? I want to improve since my knowledge on dealing with this is same as every AFC's

3) There's one HB8 which wants me to be her fuckbuddy. Can banging her get me over this one?

4) Is she interested in me at least up to some point? How can I recover? I know I can freeze her out for ages, or do anything.....is there any chance or is it over?

Thanks guys....and sorry for my english...I'm from eastern europe and tired after the party. :)


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feel like shes the type of girl that doesn't know what she wants. I'd say be careful not to get attached to her


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lol, she's infatuated with your game.

she doesn't even know the true you.

ahhh college days.

just move on!

but smack her ass first!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:27 am 
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Thanks guys! The last months were cool, but also exhausting. All the thrill, all the uncertainty of every single night, it's a bit too much to handle SPAM. I think I'm looking for a LTR now and she might be the right choice, I wouldn't bother writing the story down otherwise. I value her more than other girls and I know that my head is losing this game....but I can ignore her or basically do anything to prevent any damage on my side, if it means I either win her or at least cut the losses.


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One more thing....tomorrow I'll do a college project very near to her place....she knows I'll be there. Should I surprise her and come over when I'm done with the project (as she mentioned she's alone) or should I forget that because it's way too needy?

I know my deciding isn't clear here as I'm biased in her favour, so if this is a dumb idea, tell me!


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if you stop by, just make sure it's for a cool reason.

you feel me?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:19 am 
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Yeah. :) Ok, I'll start seeing the HB8 instead.

So you think that if I simply cut off any contact with her it could help?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:40 pm 
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So I talked about this with one more girl and she gave me another view on the matter....she especially pinned the fact that HB9 mentioned to me that she's on dorm alone this weekend and that she had no sex in past 14 days and this girl tells me to text the HB9 with smth like "I'm sitting in the cafe in front of your dorm. Come pick me up." I guess we would end in her dorm room making sweet love (rough fking) or she would simply ignore the message.

She claims that it's evident the HB9 wants me and wants me but expects me to make a move since she is unsure if I really like her.

Guys this is going on right now, please, I need some unbiased views. :) Thanks!


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Sounds quite reasonable. I'd give it a definite go.


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I gave it a go....the call was like:

her "Yeah?"
me "Hi, where are you?"
her "In my dorm room."
me "Hey, I'm standing at the dorm entrance, come pick me up!"
her "No, I won't go there."
me "Okay, bye."

The good thing is I am not that disappointed, the bad thing I don't know wtf is going on. Maybe she really doesn't want me, but what the hell were all the positive signals for? Or why did she reject the call? Yeah I maybe sounded a bit cocky, I just tried to appear calm and have a clear voice.

If she wants me, I cannot understand what just happened. If she doesn't want me, I cannot understand all the signals. What do you guys think?

I'm probably going to freeze out anyway....


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turned a bit awkward there.

but at least you made a bold move.

now do two things:

1. move on
2. freeze her out

you did accomplish one thing though.

you gave her a 'reason' to contact you back if she is interested.

because she can just say "well, i wanted to see what you wanted that time you came over".

see?

months down the line she might contact you under that premise.

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Yeah, I can see it the same way. She's just unpredictable....I'm calling HB8 tomorrow to have some fun :)


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Got an idea why does she behave that way....I would really appreciate some feedback. By the way, yeah I spend some time analyzing the situation, but I'm not down because of it, I had some good time with HB8 last night and it's gonna make freeze out easier.

HB9 joined uni, everything in her life changed. New city, new people, new way of life, new day schedule, more responsibility, less free time. Lots of guys were hitting on her. She started thinking of her old life (including her BF) as of something boring.

Then she met me.

She started sleeping with me, enjoying her new, shiny, adventurous life. But her friends from home were upset because she threw away her relationship with the BF. She said she had good relationship with his parents and that the last time she met them they were crying. She was surely giving it a lot of time, rationalizing, etc.

Then she left home for a couple of weekends, found out her ex is not that bad, she has some feelings for him, or she just feels sorry for any possible reason so that's why she is cutting off all the contact with me, although I'm 100% sure she is attracted to me (see the last night we were together, kc and kino reciprociation).

So my conclusion is - if all of the above is true, she might be in this weird state for some more time. Anyone has experienced anything similar? I am looking forward to see your opinion, guys.


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I'm not a fan of bumping threads but I would really appreciate your opinion guys. ;)


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Damn man is this still going on, what is your conclussion to it all


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