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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:17 pm 
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New to the PUA world, read a few books, skimmed over dozens more.

Used to be confident back when I were 16-19 but now I'm 21, hell knows what's happened.

I used to be a God, used to come so naturally, and now I'm an AFC!

Hung up over one girl, I genuinely believe she is the girl I want to grow old with. We have been friends, fucked a few times, even dated. But now stuck in the friend zone. More of this later. (Major Oneitis)

I need to get my game back, even with new girls I get put in the friend zone.

Looking forward to the forum helping my game and getting me back to my old self.

Yeah, brief hard sell!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:43 am 
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no man is a god.
you sound like u have huge ego, more than even you realise.
i suggest you contemplate zen until u wake up.
It may take minutes...
it may take years...
it may never happen for you...
but
It woke me up.
ding.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:32 am 
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I was the man when I was 16-19 too.... But if I acted the same way now, as I did then...I wouldn't be the man... When you're young...its cool...but when you get older, if you still act the same... some people won't view you as a mature, educated MAN. They'll still see a naive little boy...Chances are, you're just growing up and finally realizing certain things about yourself...You see yourself differently. When that happens, you're given the choice to change what you see...So get to it.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:32 am 
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@nbullshitter1
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no man is a god.
you sound like u have huge ego, more than even you realise.
OK so I really didn't mean god, all I meant was I look back at myself and at myself now, and I am just the shadow of my younger self.

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When that happens, you're given the choice to change what you see...So get to it.
I have grown up so much in the past two years, and I have seen myself develop into someone I respect, I just need to change my ways with woman. I'm here to change for the better, and to hopefully help other with my upcoming experience!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:15 am 
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@nbullshitter1
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no man is a god.
you sound like u have huge ego, more than even you realise.
OK so I really didn't mean god, all I meant was I look back at myself and at myself now, and I am just the shadow of my younger self.

@motownsoul
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When that happens, you're given the choice to change what you see...So get to it.
I have grown up so much in the past two years, and I have seen myself develop into someone I respect, I just need to change my ways with woman. I'm here to change for the better, and to hopefully help other with my upcoming experience!
Well thats good man..You're conscious of the ways you're growing as an individual.. some people can't see themselves like that..and I also agree on why you're here. I think most of us are here for the same reasons..I know from my experience, which is still not a lot....but I've come to realize if you want to change anything.....then you have to identify the problem(s) you're having, in which you want to change..I can't really help you on that...But I mean, you want to change your ways with women...the first step is to identify what exactly you want...and what exactly you need to change in order to get what you want. As you already know, this website is FILLED with GREAT information..So I'm sure you'll learn alot..just read thru the old threads in the different sub-forums and I'm sure you'll find tons of posts that relate to your situation...and if you have any further questions that you cant find answers for....post them up. So far I've great success with other guys on this site replying to my questions with great advice


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:18 pm 
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the first step is to identify what exactly you want...and what exactly you need to change in order to get what you want.
How did you identify what it is you wanted? And how did you change to get there?

Curious really! And it's always good to hear other people's changes for that boost of motivation/inspiration!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:59 pm 
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Sir, if you don't know what it is you want, then don't expect many self respecting people to give you anything..especially mature women.

Personally, experience lead me to knowing what I want, as well as what I do not want. That also gave me the state of mind to...I don't want to say avoid things or people...But I know what I did to get what I didn't want...therefore, I try not to do that again. And as for the changes I've made....There hasn't been many drastic changes...But again..If I want something...and I get less than what I want..then I figure out why that is....and come up with things I can do to have better results next time. Cuz lets face it, if YOU...WANT...something....and YOU fail to get that something.....Its YOUR FAULT...YOU did something WRONG, which lead to the failure....Granted, you're not going to pick up EVERY woman you attempt..So sometimes that isn't your fault...its the woman that simply is not interested. But for most other things in life, its all on you. If you're not getting what you want, take a step back, evaluate your situation...and see what is wrong and what needs changed..and figure out what you gotta do..

I guess this is a good way. I've never tried it this way, but have read of other people, even PUA's doing it.'

Get a paper and pen...and simply write down what you want. This can apply to anything..But since you need a solid INNER GAME before you can start bringing others in your life, we'll focus on that.. You need to feel secure, confident, proud, etc, to be who you are. You have to be happy with yourself..So what you should want to do, is over come any limits/boundaries you have set up...while keeping your values and morals in tact..Its important to keep a good, positive, value/moral system within yourself..like your own code of conduct.

So again, write down what it is you want.

Then next to the things you want, write down some things you could do in order to achieve those wants..

Get to know yourself...Be happy with yourself..Practice every day working on yourself, and becoming a better person..And experience life....Thats the best teacher. Put yourself out there...fail...succeed...fall down...get back up...LEARN. Thats about all I can think of at the moment


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