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Hey Ryan, what are your thoughts on being tall and using direct game? I am 6'7 and I think I fairly good looking(At least that's what my mom says :D ). Would direct be a bad style of game for me? Because I am not sure if girls would find me to aggressive since i'm already tall and bigger.

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Hello Ryan,

I posted a while back with a couple of questions regarding game for guys with disabilities, but as yet haven't seen any reponse.

Basically, I think I'm a really fun, confident, outgoing person, and people regularly tell me so (boys & girls). However, it just irritates me when a lot of people say that "looks don't matter" etc. I'm a decent looking lad, not fantastic but not bad. But I just get the feeling that 99.9% of lasses INSTANTLY only see my canes that I walk with, might decide to chat for a bit, but ultimately get "intimidated" by my physical disability, and nothing ever develops! It's doing my head in!

Any tips? I prefer direct game, but even kino can sometimes be difficult for me, as I'm not as nimble on my feet as I'd like to be, for obvious reasons! lol

I'm not trying to be really "down" on myself, and I always try & have fun! But it's frustrating as hell!

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Looks DO matter - it's just that they don't matter as much to women, as a woman's looks matter to US. You are going to be at a disadvantage if you are physically handicapped, this is a fact. HOWEVER, it all rides on how you deal with it.

There's a comedian on the UK circuit who has a massive nose. When he walks on stage he pauses and looks both ways slowly, then opens with "isn't it annoying how in some photos...from some angles...your nose looks really big?"

Not only does he get an instant laugh, but what he does is acknowledge what the audience is already thinking, and then deals with it in a humourous way, showing he's socially intelligent and confident enough to poke fun at himself. It also means nobody can heckle him later for having a big nose because he already said it!

In your case, I'd say the first thing to do is be able to crack a few jokes about your particular disability to show that you are comfortable with it, and to alleviate the possible tension that the girl might feel surrounding it. Just one that gets her laughing is fine, then you can be normal again. It can also be used as comfort building material because your story of overcoming a disability can be told in a very interesting way that can be quite emotional and inspiring to her.

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Okay so me and this hb8 went on a date at about the start of august I kiss closed her but when she flaked on the second date I came across needy and thought I'd fucked it up so I just forgot about her. But last night i was at a party and she was there but the whole night I just negged her and this morning she text me saying "sorry for being drunk last night cause I really like you and want to sort things" now I still like her and wouldn't mind going out with her so how should I reply to get a date but not seem desperate and make her feel as if she's asking me out?

Btw I've already waited a day without texting her back so I don't seem desperate

Any advice is apperiecated thanks guy!
If she's coming back to you apologising and saying she wants to sort things, then you won't be needy by simply ACCEPTING her offer. Just say "yeah no problem" and arrange a time to meet! Simple.

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Hey Ryan, what are your thoughts on being tall and using direct game? I am 6'7 and I think I fairly good looking(At least that's what my mom says :D ). Would direct be a bad style of game for me? Because I am not sure if girls would find me to aggressive since i'm already tall and bigger.

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I don't care if you're 4'2 or 6'7, direct game is THE best, simplest, most effective way to go about figuring out if a girl is interested and making her attracted to you if she is. GO FOR IT!

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Hi Ryan,

Thanks for your reply. There's some good advice there!

I'm actually quite adept & quite used to cracking the odd joke about my disability, so I'll try to continue & improve with that! Thanks again!


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yo ryan,

good shit here. Im at college so direct day game is so clutch. I was in NYC a couple weeks ago and used something like this. is this a good way to use direct?


Me: hey, i just saw you walking by and you are the hottest girl ive seen today so i thought i had to stop and get to know you
- names
- asked what are you doing in "__"
- joke about her not being with her boyfriend (test to see if she's single) (is this good or should i straight up ask?)
- talk about school and parties
- time constraint, i should be getting back with my friends or something
- "we should hook up sometime" "we should hang out and have multiple organisms" "we should hang out and have crazy wild sex" "we should hang, u could be my sexy strictly platonic friend"
- whats your number
- what should i save you as? funny nickname
- ill call you / text you (hug) see ya soon

this is almost like a guideline for me for direct interaction, please evaluate. any step i should do before another, mix and match or whatever. and my cousins live in london so i may need to hop over the pond and do pick up with you one day.

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yo ryan,

good shit here. Im at college so direct day game is so clutch. I was in NYC a couple weeks ago and used something like this. is this a good way to use direct?


Me: hey, i just saw you walking by and you are the hottest girl ive seen today so i thought i had to stop and get to know you
- names
- asked what are you doing in "__"
- joke about her not being with her boyfriend (test to see if she's single) (is this good or should i straight up ask?)
- talk about school and parties
- time constraint, i should be getting back with my friends or something
- "we should hook up sometime" "we should hang out and have multiple organisms" "we should hang out and have crazy wild sex" "we should hang, u could be my sexy strictly platonic friend"
- whats your number
- what should i save you as? funny nickname
- ill call you / text you (hug) see ya soon

this is almost like a guideline for me for direct interaction, please evaluate. any step i should do before another, mix and match or whatever. and my cousins live in london so i may need to hop over the pond and do pick up with you one day.

Cheers mate

J Slay
Yeah, a great guideline, just a couple of small things:

- You don't need a false time constraint. Whenever you feel like ending the interaction, just say you need to get going. However, if the interaction is going well, it's totally fine to stay in it, in fact if she's not doing anything, why not go straight on an insta-date to a cafe nearby?

- Kiss on one or two cheeks as well as / instead of hugging.

Pretty much good otherwise!

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If you are direct,you are not hard to get.
What do you think about being hard to get?


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Good evening Ryan, I have a situation which I never realy had before. I'm taking salsa courses lately. The system is without partners so everyone dances with everyone equaly. I got realy good at it quickly and when dancing with the cutest girl from the class, I did very well, I was kind of direct and I felt alot of attraction comming from both sides. We were flirting and had a lot of eye contact while dancing. I could tell she realy enjoyed it and she even said so.
After class, I was talking to her while a good friend of her (also in the salsa class) stood by. I said the girl that we should go to this salsa bar where we could dance and practice a bit. She was realy enthousiastic and she spontaneously gave me her facebook (her mobile phone was broke) so that we could set a date.

Now here comes the problem. As soon as she accepted me on facebook, I saw that she was in a relationship with someone (not that she has many picts of him or messages on her wall). That was quite confusing for me, because I thought she liked me. I still did leave her a message on her wall: "this tuesday, salsa in bar X! Will you be there?" And she was very enthousiastic again, but she wants to take her (female) friend of the salsa class with her to the bar.

So, first thing I want to know: did I misread her intentions? Secondly, this is what I think I should do, and I want to know if you would do the same way or that you know a better idea. I am not realy confident in being persistent now I know she has a BF and that she will take a friend with her. I don't know if I should be persistant. So I think I will just go there, have a good time with both of them, and do nothing unless she is realy begging me for it. What do you think?

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If you are direct,you are not hard to get.
What do you think about being hard to get?
I don't know where you got that assertion from, but I would question its validity.

For me, Direct is about being honest and "choosing" the girl from a position of higher value and assumed attraction. She still has to do a lot of work, because I've come in saying "hi I'm interested, now I want to find out more" NOT "omg you're sooo beautiful can I PLEASE spend just ONE minute in your presence PLEASE!"

I don't believe it's necessary to invent false barriers for the girl to get through. Focusing on "qualification" to get the qualities you want out of her, not being afraid to disagree or make fun of her, and leading the interaction towards what you want to talk about will make you more than enough of a challenge to her, whilst enabling you both to get to know each other in a natural way.

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Good evening Ryan, I have a situation which I never realy had before. I'm taking salsa courses lately. The system is without partners so everyone dances with everyone equaly. I got realy good at it quickly and when dancing with the cutest girl from the class, I did very well, I was kind of direct and I felt alot of attraction comming from both sides. We were flirting and had a lot of eye contact while dancing. I could tell she realy enjoyed it and she even said so.
After class, I was talking to her while a good friend of her (also in the salsa class) stood by. I said the girl that we should go to this salsa bar where we could dance and practice a bit. She was realy enthousiastic and she spontaneously gave me her facebook (her mobile phone was broke) so that we could set a date.

Now here comes the problem. As soon as she accepted me on facebook, I saw that she was in a relationship with someone (not that she has many picts of him or messages on her wall). That was quite confusing for me, because I thought she liked me. I still did leave her a message on her wall: "this tuesday, salsa in bar X! Will you be there?" And she was very enthousiastic again, but she wants to take her (female) friend of the salsa class with her to the bar.

So, first thing I want to know: did I misread her intentions? Secondly, this is what I think I should do, and I want to know if you would do the same way or that you know a better idea. I am not realy confident in being persistent now I know she has a BF and that she will take a friend with her. I don't know if I should be persistant. So I think I will just go there, have a good time with both of them, and do nothing unless she is realy begging me for it. What do you think?
It doesn't sound like your were being particularly direct. Being direct means you quickly make your intentions clear to the point where she is forced to either accept that you and her will be continuing down the path to sexual escalation, or reject you. If you HAD been direct in this situation, then you would have been rejected before you ever got the chance to check her facebook and discover she is in a relationship.

However, being direct in the case where you see her in dance class every day would have been a stupid idea anyway, so it's good you didn't. Now that you guys get on with each other, keep her as a FRIEND and hang out, dance, be flirty with her, and you'll quickly find out exactly what the situation is with the boyfriend, and at what point it might be appropriate to escalate further. As long as you remain flirty and keep the sexual tension between you in the interim, then as soon as she is done with this guy, you may well be next on the list!

From now with this particular girl, don't ask about her boyfriend or act jealously should he come up in conversation or should you meet him for some reason. If it turns out she's in a stable, long-term relationship with him, it's best to keep her as a female friend and game her friends than anything else - there are plenty of other women!

In future in general, if you meet a woman in a non-closed social situation (e.g. NOT from a class / work / university / through mutual friends and you're likely to keep seeing her) then it's best to actually BE direct by telling her that you find her cute and want to get to know her better later in the week over a hot chocolate or something, then get her number. This will make it clear to her that you are romantically interested in her and that you want to meet her 1:1 for that purpose.

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Blondguy, you brought up an interesting point:
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As long as you remain flirty and keep the sexual tension between you in the interim, then as soon as she is done with this guy, you may well be next on the list!
People often emphasize that, if you wait too long, you'll get friendzoned. Maybe it was a limited believe, but I always thought that in any situation, as long as I don't make a move on a girl early in the encounter (ranging from few minutes to few days), that you will get friendzoned.
You in the contrary, if I understood it well, say that (in the context of she having a boyfriend), you can be her "friend" without being realy friend zoned, as long as you can keep her sexualy interested through flirtations and tention. If the moment arises, you can then take your chance without worrying that she'll see you as a friend


About what kind of interim are you talking? Is it about weeks, months or even possibly a year? Does this also apply to women without boyfriends (f.e. not having real intentions with her but keeping her interested in the case you break up with your girlfriend or when you're horny)?
And if you are friends then in some kind of way, do you have to keep the sexual/flirting vibe constantly or can you relax as well for a moment?

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Blondguy, you brought up an interesting point:
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As long as you remain flirty and keep the sexual tension between you in the interim, then as soon as she is done with this guy, you may well be next on the list!
People often emphasize that, if you wait too long, you'll get friendzoned. Maybe it was a limited believe, but I always thought that in any situation, as long as I don't make a move on a girl early in the encounter (ranging from few minutes to few days), that you will get friendzoned.

You in the contrary, if I understood it well, say that (in the context of she having a boyfriend), you can be her "friend" without being really friend zoned, as long as you can keep her sexually interested through flirtations and tension. If the moment arises, you can then take your chance without worrying that she'll see you as a friend

About what kind of interim are you talking? Is it about weeks, months or even possibly a year? Does this also apply to women without boyfriends (f.e. not having real intentions with her but keeping her interested in the case you break up with your girlfriend or when you're horny)?

And if you are friends then in some kind of way, do you have to keep the sexual/flirting vibe constantly or can you relax as well for a moment?
Really good question.

It's absolutely true that a lot of guys get themselves friendzoned by waiting around too long for the "right moment" to ask her out, or kiss, or make some kind of move. However, the issue here is not so much the time, but simply that there is a clear opportunity (i.e. you're both single, you're alone together, sitting near each other) and you don't do anything. That makes her believe that either:
(i) you're not interested [which makes her immediately backwards-rationalise that she was never that interested in you to prevent her ego from taking a hit by being rejected]
(ii) you're too much of a pussy to make a move [which obviously kills attraction] or
(iii) you're gay.

Now, if it's the case that one or both of you have partners, then as long as you show yourself to be a sexual person and make sure to spike attraction in her in various ways without physically escalating, e.g. talk about girls you're seeing, have her see you with other women, flirting with them, touching them, etc, be sexual and flirty with her, slap her on the ass, etc. then she won't believe any of those (iii) things - there was no real opportunity as at least one of you is in a relationship, you're not a pussy, and you're definitely not gay! As soon as the relationship ends, you can go straight in and escalate, and you can wait YEARS for the opportunity if need be!

As for not escalating on a girl when you're both single, you run into the risky territory of making her mistakenly believe any one of those (iii) things, but you can play the same game in a social-circle context by doing everything other than escalating on her (because there are mutual friends around and thus it's not really an "opportunity) and waiting for that opportunity to escalate when you two are alone, which can sometimes take a few months depending on how often you see her and in what context. These "slow-burn" cases can happen, e.g. you meet her for 5 minutes at a friend's party, then again at another friend's house for another 10 minutes, then at a dinner party for a few hours, and then finally run into her at a bar and then have the opportunity to isolate her. But, you MUST take that chance when it happens, otherwise it looks like you are hesitating or unsure of yourself.

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Hey Ryan,

I can totally relate to your story. I was in a relationship for 6 years before I discovered Game. Just to give another perspective, although I'm not bad looking I always sucked with women. The Game has taught me that looks pretty much count for f***k all in the real world.

In the beginning everything I learned was kinda 'indirect', never giving in, that sort of thing. The direct approach sounds cool.

Have many women responded badly to it or is it generally pretty effective?

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