As the pick up artist world grows more popular so do teaching scams associated with them. There are many good resources online and new teachers to pass them on. There are also many scammers teaching pua techniques but not very many give concrete ways to defend or combat them when challenged. Because these Bill Clintons of the pua world, I want to know if some of you have come into contact with their actual methods and how you dealt with these dishonest people.
When you’re looking for more information. If you’re dealing with a scammer or a liar they’ll probably find a way to avoid giving you the answers you want. If you’re becoming suspicious, ask specific questions and see how hard they work to avoid answering. Changing the subject or outright ignoring the question are not good signs.
If you are concerned that someone is not who they say they are or can practice what they preach or if you suspect they are lying about their appearance and expirience you should ask them to prove themselves. Pay careful attention to how they react.
After reading some interesting topics on here and other pua forums when the false teaching of highly built up men in the pua community gets exposed, it is amazing some of the arguments we hear.
People lie, because they don't want people to figure them out - Don't be deceived!

Please post your expiriences, opinions and ideas.
Thank you

LOL i can think of a few scammers!

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mr lover lover

Are these dealings about money or liars in general?

A friend of mine met with a guy from another city who claims he is a master PUA and can teach any one to become the same.
They went for a drink or something and this guy talked some crazy ass stuff about his rules and why he had to follow them.
My friend was unfamiliar with his surroundings and wasn't comfortable being in a new city. The "teacher" wasn't aware of this in the slightest and continued to preach at him 'you will do what I tell you to'.
This guy said - go to them get there number.
But this is the thing , he doesn't know how! He just went in and got blew out straight away.
Without a solid strategy, everything else will crumble and fall.
He told me there were some others out that day and they followed blindly.
My friend is not a PUA but knows enough to see if some one is good enough.
From what my friend says this guy just points and says go to them, go do this, go do that. How easy is that to point and tell some one to do something. It's very peculiar and unnerving in a way to see so many people walking around doing what this guy says.
I wont mention names but the whole thing is just crap. If people are going to pay for this then they deserve to be scammed!

It doesn't have to just be about money. Could be about people online talking up a good storey but are unable to produce the goods of the forum.
RuzzaliM82 I have heard many of similar stories that relate to this.

If you ar a liar and always going to be a liar only in time will you be exposed.
"Every knee shall bow every tounge shall confess".

If you have been a victim of a person tricking you all your friend will know, all their friend will know and so on.
The thing we forget is to look at why people are become a liar and how we can help them.

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Hell, gotta take massive risks once in a while right? Good for the soul...

The best advice I ever recieved from a PUA friend of mine was to do just this. Go up and just say anything. Seriously, it's not what you say but how you say it. Just say anything!

You have to work the nerves out of the system or else you're destined to be doomed into a cycle of reading about PUA and not practising it. Field work is real experience. So go up and get blown out until you feel comfortable / get good responses / get phone numbers / f-close.

I would say to do your research. I have looked up as many people I can that belive they can teach and I want to know what they are forwarding.
I have found many video on the net of this behavours and ways of the teaching.

I also look for the field reports on as many forums as possible to my knowlegde.
I would suggest to you all that it is very important not to jump into these situations and be carefull.
These people will order you to do many things that are not necessary and exploit you.

If you are a weak person then you must be carefull because some of this people can break you down by trying to be powerfull.

If it is for free be even moreso carfull because what is it they want!

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اللهم اشرح صدرها للاسلام يارب

Teaching for free has to be for one thing only...................EGO

The jackal teaches for free so its noth that bad. he has been exposed on other forums because he cant do what he tries to teach. hyenas are full of shit to. advertize recruiting and dont know squat about it. They are all from the same cloth and talk shit. I spoke with a lot of the students and hear all sorts of crazy going ons. seriously just read a book, practice when your out and then you get good. you will see other guys bout doing this and you will know and thats when you get a wingman.

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hot fat and sweaty

Yeah i see a lot of bullshit for sure on this whole PUA thing...where there is money to be made its gonna bring scammers and hustlers.
ive seen many bullshit vids on youtube recently...only the real gullible would fall for the shit being peddled.
and someone on another post told me that the advice of one of the pua's over this site lyons supposedly advises not to get a wingman unless he can turn up at the club with 10 women with him already...
now if u dont smell bullshit in that advice i dunno what will trip ur spidey sence.

Some of the shit you read on here is total WHACK!
Field reports talking shit and half of them lying about what they do and get.
This site is for dude to ask questions and get help not to show off or join little clicks and talk complete whack.

Not having a wing man is complete dribble and getting some1 to bring 10 girl to a club to sarge with him. Wh ywould you sarge if you got 10 girls, if that the case you obviously arnt fucking them.

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I contacted a couple of guys on a thread one was coach jackal so I'm guessing the same one you speak of here. They said I have to do a phone test to hang with them. What a joke and fuck that! They haven't even seen what I can do and what I'm capable of so why should I have to do a phone test? Who the fuck does that?

Like any unregulated industry scammers will continue to exist as long as there are people with unrealistic expectations. Think get rich quick schemes, they are no different to get perfect wiht women and never be rejected quick.

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La Dolce Vita.

I agree.

Where ever money can be made the scammers get their fingers into it.

Where ever people are to be misled the manipulators catch them.