There are obviously ton of problems in the community including but not limited to scams, praying on peoples' insecurities and simply ineffective methods, but this one pisses me off most...

Egoistic laziness.

What does almost(if not every) product out there claim?


"Deep inside you know you can get women you deserve"- WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK THAT YOU DESERVE THEM???

Girls we want often times put ton of effort into themselves, buy expensive clothes, put make-up on, have nice personality and fun people.

-these are girls that we want...now who are we?

You probably have one of following characteristics: ugly, fat, poor, old, short, insecure and have a terrible personality-No problem, follow this method and we'll show you shortcuts to success with women and you're going to be getting laid like crazy without doing anything in 1 month...


Now i understand that in life there are situations that you can't overcome, and to be honest, men don't need to put nearly as much effort into the qualities I mentioned above as women. That's true, looks matter for women, but personality matters more.

You still have to put effort into yourself, be it getting a haircut, or building confidence, stepping out of your comfort zone on regular basis-becoming a better person-or at least someone who deserves the women you're praying on.

Improve yourself and come here for help with sticking points. Or learning techniques. Your personality is foundation for your game.

Be happy.

There are a lot of problems with the community, but I think mostly has to do with guy's expectations. They think that by paying so much for a method or a book or something will enable them to go up to any girl and get her into bed quickly.

Its not that easy. I believe that game should be a lifestyle transformation. Enough with just looking good enough for girls. How about truly becoming a confident person so you can not only attract better females but also be a force at the office?

A lot of what is talked about here and the inner game techniques goes a long way to transforming your entire life, not just your success with women. You can't fake confidence. It's gotta be within you.

Aye, your appearance and grooming should be a top priority.

Personality wise, you develop that as you go along and get better.

I have my own little theory that a lot of this is just based on self-esteem.

I believe that high self-esteem people get with high self-esteem people and low self-esteem people get with low-self esteem people.

Also most of your game problems will be solved through developing it (apart from learning the outer game/method).

But whats to say people arent working on it? The people that take this seriously.

Very true, especially the Mystery-type rubbish. I love this post. I wish I'd written it.

"Hey! You have a jellyfish personality, look like a pear, have no facial features nor good hair, aren't rich nor very competent at anything and you want to date hot women who are really way better than you? Well look no further, we'll convince you that all women are really whores who barely even deserve your lazy fat ass and after that, just use these routines and the dames will swoon for you by the boat load!".

Anyone who believes that deserves to have their money taken.

That said, there are some genuinely interesting (not many) posts and people on this board worth reading and talking to.

We all come to this forums to get some advice and new ideas about getting more women in our lives. In this later stages of our history, women does not need males for protection any longer, and it is a subconsiously scary thought.

We all want to get laid more than before, we think that "I am a man if I can get laid with many women". We get validation when someone else likes us. That validation leaves when that person leaves us. So we want it back because it felt good.

We think its about women, but it has never been about women. It's all about over comming our insecurities, learn to like our selves, stop caring about what people might think of us. But also getting an understanding of human interactions, learning that male energy attracts female energy and understanding bodylanguage.

We get an understanding of what it really takes to be a man, and not SPAM all our power to women. Men makes most of the descisions for example not asking a woman. Men set goals for themselves and reach them no matter what. Men finds their purpose in life and how they can contribute to his own life and the life of others.

You can't say that women are more worth than any man and that men has to suck up to women. Men are not worth more than a woman either.

The people who contributes the most value for the most amount of people gets the most rewarded in this world. So far it is mostly men that does that on a global scale, and i think in a matter of years women will equlize that, nothing wrong with that, but if we keep SPAM all our power, women will becomes societies men. I would like to see it equal.

We all have it in us to do what we want when we want, it will never come from an external source. No one makes us feel anything, we make ourselves feel it. Learn to get a more positive outlook on life.
Learn to stop worrying about things that you can not control. weather, traffic, other people, It iw a waste of time and energy.

See something you like, believe in yourselves that you deserve it. Not excusing yourselves for something that you like, no matter who is looking or what they might think of you. You go for it, because you like it, you will thank yourselves that you did no matter what happen.

You live your life for your own sake, no one else really cares about you and your life as much as you do. Live it for yourselves and get what you want out of life.

What are you asking out of life?

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Most of the suggested methods actually involve drastic personality makeovers. Simply telling a person to change their personality doesn't make it easy to do within the span of a month, and may be something they aren't willing or able to do at all.