So I've been going on a lot of coffee dates recently all with different women. And I feel like I haven't gotten anywhere with any of them. Somehow I always land in the friend zone. What exactly do you guys do to go further like relationship or get laid or even a kiss?

I don't go to coffee shops, lol
and thats just the thing, ask any girl to a coffee shop and she wouln't be thinking "I wonder if i'll go to bed with him tonight" or "i wonder if he'll kiss me" why would she who's made moves on a girl sippin a STEAMING HOT mocha? (ouch if she doesn't like your advance) in a public store?

If you want to kiss, go to a park or a amusement park/carnival or the mall even. If you have a special "thing" about your city (Eiffle tower, one of the 7 wonders of the world ect.) take her to that and she'll be expecting you to kiss her.

If you want to take her home you have to plan it, leave the oven on (im not liable if your house catches on fire btw), give your dog to much water, do something where you have to go back to your house soon (make it real too, if it's not a emergency you're gunna think of a excuse NOT to go back to your house - but don't make it life threatening) and bring her with you (side note its easier if it's nighttime for this part, close to 9-10pm they'll be less logical and more emotional at this time)

If you currently have a coffee shop date while you read this, take her on it, and "spontaneously" want to go to the park; she'll love relaxing with you and then going on a adventure, and you still get to Kclose while still taking her to a coffee shop like you already said

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LOL! ditch the coffee dates and even bar or club dates. Over both, clubs dates are better.

Take up some hobbies that you can bring girls to, and take them there.

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I saw the title of this thread and was thinking 'yeah no surprise there'. Funny thing is, in my experience, if a girl suggests a meetup before I do, it is almost always for coffee. That should tell you something.

I fucking hate coffee dates and avoid them at all costs. The coffee date is too 'safe'. There is little tension being built there.

Some of the best advice I have ever heard

Agreed with all responses! I have been on one coffee date in my life, and guess what? Even in comparison, going out for a drink normally puts you in a more private/relaxed situation where you can game.

Go out for coffee with your mother, not girl's you are trying to bang!

Lol, I'm still relatively new to the game. Well maybe 6 months now. And I've seen improvement in myself where I can just say whatever to girls and get conversations going and number closing. The problem is the coffee dates is where I'm stuck at. People keep saying be your best self but I feel like that always gets me in the friendzone.

But I'll try the park thing next time. What about if it rains? Then where should I take her?

Home?

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Still live with parents....

Do they both work? I do too and my parents are gone from 7am to 5pm, plenty of time

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Nope neither work. Always home.

How do you get income? lol not my question/problem
take her to the local mall or see if HER parents are at work. If none of those work you are in to small of a community lol

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Escalate, deep eye contact ffrom beneath your eyebrows, looking up at her. It completely eliminates any idea she has that you aren't thinking of her sexually and forces her to decide to ditch the interaction or engage you more and fuck you.

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I experienced the same in the past. What worked for me was to create more comfort before the date (phone/text game), and changed the venue to bars and lounges for the first date. Worked perfectly.

A nice bar where you can talk and sit close, not only allows more chance to kino escalate, but also, the effect of alcohol helps both of you relax and get more into the vibe.

My 2 cents.

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