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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:04 am 
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So whenever i go clubbing i always get tons of IoI. Girls always give me eye contacts (more than once from a same girl), usually on the dance floor. And if i talk to them, they would try to engage in a conversation, and being touchy and shit.
But i can never get shit from them....no numbers....no kiss close....no nothing.....
usually I would just use a opinion opener, than a transition to general conversation....
than i would try the 5 questions game....But whenever i asked them if they wanted to play this game they would say no. And suddenly they would look like they lose interest, giving tons of IODs... i have great friends who can wing (tons of bouncers, and tons of cute girls to wing me)...but still nothing happen....Why?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:07 am 
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ever try just being honest and telling them you think they are attractive or showing intent?

if you try that out and it seems to go well for you, follow up by getting to know them ;) works pretty good


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:28 am 
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gotta be direct at clubs dawg. they're not there to waste any time


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:12 pm 
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gotta be direct at clubs dawg. they're not there to waste any time
so i should just gind up on them? and i only talk to the girls who are at the bar or more quiet area. I have no ideas how to approach girls who are on the dancefloor


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If running things like the question game doesn't work for you, don't do it.
Doing the same thing over and over? Results not changing? Do something different!

Try the direct game, rather than do the 5 questions, just tell them how sexy they are instead. If that doesn't work, then try something else!

Trial and error. Don't do one thing then decide something is wrong but not change your game plan.


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Seriously dude...

Girl: hey hottieeee (touchy touchy)
You: Hey I've got a quick question - going back to me mates soon - but who do you think lies more: men or women?
Girl: couldn't fucking care less hottie (a bit less touchy)
You: allright than, let's play a game
Girl: Yeah (again getting more touchy)
You: I'll ask you five questions...
Girl: (interrupts) I'll give you one answer: bye!

two seconds later

Girl: hey hottie (touchy touchy)
random dude: hey babe
instant make-out.

See the difference??
Feel the difference??

Next time you go out you will stop being a lamer and start being a gamer.


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thanks for the advices guys. going out again tn, hope somethings gonna happen this time.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:45 pm 
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Question games like that should be reserved for the camp-fire or the playground. Also, with regards to the direct approach, telling a genuinely attractive woman in a club that she's sexy is like telling Michelangelo that he's handy with a paintbrush. They already know and you're not the first person to tell them, leering eyes from every angle will suffice.

Clubs with dance floors aren't prime pick-up territory. For one, there is always the danger of your interactions being interrupted by a girl's favourite song. Secondly, they aren't noted discursive venues and courtship is mainly tactile and visual if at all. Consequently I avoid them like the plague(I also hate the music that they play in clubs but that's of little import).

If you must operate in such a venue I'd go for a facetious approach that worked for me when I used to go clubbing. Clubs are awash with leery, cumbersome, over-aftershaved cretins slobbering over women and inevitably crashing and burning. The woman that you approach has likely been approached a number of times before you and, since she's not got a man by her side, she's rejected them. Go in with the cheesiest chat up line that you can imagine, the more absurd the better. Delivery is everything for this though, you need to initiate with a straight face and as soon as she's registered what just came out of your mouth, break into a smile and tell her that you're joking and that you just wanted to see if it would work or that you "always wanted to say that to a woman in a club". I have always had women respond with humour. In the unlikely event that she outright spurns you, just tell her that you're glad she didn't fall for it and graciously exit.

A good follow-up topic is to tell a story of a chat up line that your friend used that was so bad but actually worked. This anecdote should be followed by asking the girl what is the worst chat up line that she's ever had, she'll doubtless have a few to tell you if she's a looker.

This little routine disarms the girl and makes her feel comfortable that you're not another creep. It is also fun if you pick another girl at random in the vicinity and say to your target "I bet I can make her fall for it". Considering that you've already got this far she will in all probability go along with the dare. Go to the other girl, drop the line as clumsily and awkwardly as possible, wait for the response and jovially return to your target. When you return, declare jokingly "I'm seeing her tomorrow night". Great little line. Your target will be much more receptive after this, she'll know that you're fun and bold and will be intrigued.

Where you go from here is down to preference.


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if your right about the ioi count. chances are your physically hot and can start flirting straight off the bat. instead of them getting bored as you aint showing your interest.

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. Wt are some examples of these cheesy lines? And how long should the whole routine be before I attempt to get a number close? (or kiss close if possible)
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is flirting kinda same as complimenting her?


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. Wt are some examples of these cheesy lines? And how long should the whole routine be before I attempt to get a number close? (or kiss close if possible)
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is flirting kinda same as complimenting her?
flirt
   flirt ~ flurt Show IPA
verb (used without object)
1.
to court triflingly or act amorously without serious intentions; play at love; coquet.


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If you are truly madly for real - which I am starting to doubt - flirting is doing no more than being playfully to sexually in what you are saying. If that's something fully unknown to you maby you can start watching some movies that include male to female interaction.

You don't happen to have Asperger's or something alike don't you? Because that would explain some of your behaviour.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:44 am 
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Dli, just google "cheesy chat-up lines". One I use a lot is: "Did it hurt?". She will reply with "Did what hurt?". You reply with "When you fell down from heaven". Truly awful stuff. The routine doesn't need to be drawn out. Just bare in mind that this is a glorified opener tailoured to a certain area. It is effective because it not only builds comfort but it disqualifies you and displays higher value. In short, use it as an opener and continue as normal i.e. work on building attraction more directly.


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