AFC, an AFC is supposedly an Average Frustrated Chump, and there are plenty of guys out their that are....and half of you on here. The term has become such a generic term and even used as an insult or statement of pity rather than something to empathize with. I often see posts on here about how some self proclaimed PUA lost a girl to a "total AFC". Well guess what, he's not an AFC because he's fucking her and you're not. He's not frustrated at all, and he's sure as shit not a chump. While you were playing your little games and demonstrating high value he just spoke to her like a normal person, might have been a bit desperate, but sometimes girls like that, sometimes a girl wants to be with a guy who is really into them, it's an ego boost.

I empathize with real AFCs, I don't insult them and I don't waste time wondering how he got the girl. About half the girls I hit on sleep with me, and the other half are probably shagging some "Total AFC". I don't give a shit. I'm who I am, I get more than enough pussy, so I'm not frustrated, but you can have all the game in the world, if you aren't getting any, you're just as much of an AFC as some nerd in his basement playing COD.



AMOGS, to put it simply, don't exist. I've never experienced an AMOG experience the way people describe them on here. I've lived in three cities in three countries as an adult and never once had a guy come up and fuck my game. Sometimes a girl sees a guy she likes more than me and ditches me for him, WHO CARES, I do the same to girls sometimes. If I'm talking to your standard club hottie and Bar Refaeli or Erin Wasson walks in, club hottie is getting ditched. Once again, who cares.

Don't over analyze shit so much, sometimes a girl is just more into another guy than you, everyone has different tastes.


Shit Tests, once again, flat out don't exist. Never been shit tested in my life as far as I can tell, and if I have, I've failed them miserably and the girl is still interested in me and fucking me later that night. Get over yourself and stop assuming that everything a girl asks you to do is a test. She probably just wants a small favour, and it won't show that you have low value doing it, it will show you're a decent, normal, well adjusted human being.

Once again, don't analyze shit, most of the time people don't have a hidden agenda, most people aren't smart enough. Half the population has a IQ below 100, and to put that in perspective George W Bush has an IQ of 125.

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afc's can get pussy

pua's can get pussy

at the end of the day, only one gets to maintain his self-respect while doing so

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I don't know, hard to not respect yourself when you're 8 inches deep down a babes throat.

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I've experienced AMOGs before. Well actually I'd call it a PMOG.

I was once chatting to a girl, it was going really well, having a great time and building a connection then WHAM! I just got my hand up in time to prevent broken glass penetrating my left eyeball. Everything was a blur of blood, pain and spilled beer.

Apparently her boyfriend decided that the only possible way of stopping me was to smash a pint glass into my face. I mean, by some miracle I'm not scarred for life, you wouldn't even know and when I did have a scar it was a great opener.


PMOG: Psychopathic Male Of Group. Origin: Sephy

not hard at all,

if you acted like a whiny-needy-little-bitch to get that far

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Or you paid for it

I have to disagree with you here. If being a whiny-needy-little-bitch is what it takes to get laid that's what I'll do and I won't have a second thought about it. Pickup is about a lot of things, self improvement for one, but namely getting plenty of girls and plenty of lays. If I'm being needy and I get laid, I'd still say I'm better off then some aloof unattached guy who isn't getting any.

Good post.

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i disagree with your vision of pua.

but, to each his own.

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I sincerely concur.

Good post stand up.

I guess this post was a response to mine, and while I will quibble about some of the fine details in your post, I agree that a lot of the flack we get in the field is just a product of our heads and that we should generally strive to be chill, cool guys, and not get flustered and frustrated. I think this is a great mental attitude to have not only in pick up, but in any social situation you encounter (at work, professional networking, friends, family, etc..).

Of course, saying this is one thing. Actually doing it is another.

But that is why we post here: to improve and become the chill, cool guys who are successful with woman, and more importantly, with life.

DC Guy, you nailed it

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