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Hey don I need help with the first girl I've actually started gaming since joining here.

Background info: were same age, topics are almost always sexual and/or interesting. She has a bf of about 3-5 months. We've only met up once since I started gaming her (had small talk before I got #) and it was a great conversation, things went very smooth imo. I always initiate the text.

So here is the last conversation we had:
Me: c dawg what are you up to tonight?
Her: visiting fam now
Me: ya so am I, ctown rager? I think so! (were from the same area)
Her: ha i am actually just in btown visiting my dad ha or else I would for sure! (she always says ya for sure to hanging out at night but never happens)
Me: I'm not sure you could handle a ctown rager
Her: fuck ya I could
Me: you gotta be able to handle me before you handle a ctown rager

Thats where it ended, too sexual too fast maybe? Should I still try to keep gaming this girl or forget it? Been talking for little under a month now.

Appreciate the help don!!


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Hey there guys! Still a pretty hard AFC, but tons of room for improvement.. I can't really give much examples here of my texts, but I'll atleast explain what's going on. So, basically there has been this girl I have just been casually talking to for awhile now, it hasn't really gone anywhere.. Whenever it's her and I in person, we'll flirt constantly and keep constant eye contact, and just slight kino. Today I got her number and have been texting her,but she seemed really uninterested off the bat. So I tried asking some questions to atleast get some answer to go off of. I didn't get a good response at all, just a one word sentence. I didn't really think much of it.. Just pushed past it and kept asking some questions, and making some jokes along the way. Yet, no positive response at all.

I don't understand this here. In person she's flirty and fun! Yet through text she's boring and not very responsive.

Any tips for something like this? Or just move on?


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Hey don I need help with the first girl I've actually started gaming since joining here.

Background info: were same age, topics are almost always sexual and/or interesting. She has a bf of about 3-5 months. We've only met up once since I started gaming her (had small talk before I got #) and it was a great conversation, things went very smooth imo. I always initiate the text.

So here is the last conversation we had:
Me: c dawg what are you up to tonight?
Her: visiting fam now
Me: ya so am I, ctown rager? I think so! (were from the same area)
Her: ha i am actually just in btown visiting my dad ha or else I would for sure! (she always says ya for sure to hanging out at night but never happens)
Me: I'm not sure you could handle a ctown rager
Her: fuck ya I could
Me: you gotta be able to handle me before you handle a ctown rager

Thats where it ended, too sexual too fast maybe? Should I still try to keep gaming this girl or forget it? Been talking for little under a month now.

Appreciate the help don!!
Well, her flaking on you has something to do with the lack of an established comfort level between you two.

The way I see in your texts, she's being evasive and very short in her replies. Which suggests to me that not only is there a lack of comfort, there is also a lack of attraction.

Let's talk about deal breakers :

A - She has a boyfriend. And they've been together for a while now. What's her position on that? 'Cause unless she's terribly attracted to you, I can see the "I have a BF" excuse being thrown your way, if you become a little more direct towards her than you are already.

B - You always initiate the texts, as you put it. That is never a good thing. It just means that there is an interest on only one side of the equation and that's yours. Unless, the balance is equal, there's not a single point in continuing to game the girl.

Right now, your primary aim should be to develop comfort with her and subtly create opportunities where attraction can be developed between you both.

Good luck. :)


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Hey there guys! Still a pretty hard AFC, but tons of room for improvement.. I can't really give much examples here of my texts, but I'll atleast explain what's going on. So, basically there has been this girl I have just been casually talking to for awhile now, it hasn't really gone anywhere.. Whenever it's her and I in person, we'll flirt constantly and keep constant eye contact, and just slight kino. Today I got her number and have been texting her,but she seemed really uninterested off the bat. So I tried asking some questions to atleast get some answer to go off of. I didn't get a good response at all, just a one word sentence. I didn't really think much of it.. Just pushed past it and kept asking some questions, and making some jokes along the way. Yet, no positive response at all.

I don't understand this here. In person she's flirty and fun! Yet through text she's boring and not very responsive.

Any tips for something like this? Or just move on?
Firstly, Hello. :)

Now, to your question..

You're making a common mistake here which a lot of guys do. You are so much into this girl, that you are in a danger of losing your perspective towards her.

It's not so much about her behavior towards you when you are together, as it is about over-investment on your side.

And no doubt, your meetings with her might've been straight out of an episode of the World's Most Romantic Meet-ups, but I want you to remember that unless it meant the same to her, there's no point writing poems about it.

Look, I don't mean to sound harsh. But, the facts are facts, her behavior towards you isn't anything 'special' and if you really want to amp up the attraction process then start sexualizing with her, quickly. I don't mean become a Neanderthal but be a bit more sexual in your meetings with her, in person and in your texting/calling. Make your intent clear, you're not her "buddy" you are a guy who\s attracted to her. Her reactions to that might be your answer to how she feels about you.

Good luck.


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Hey don I need help with the first girl I've actually started gaming since joining here.

Background info: were same age, topics are almost always sexual and/or interesting. She has a bf of about 3-5 months. We've only met up once since I started gaming her (had small talk before I got #) and it was a great conversation, things went very smooth imo. I always initiate the text.

So here is the last conversation we had:
Me: c dawg what are you up to tonight?
Her: visiting fam now
Me: ya so am I, ctown rager? I think so! (were from the same area)
Her: ha i am actually just in btown visiting my dad ha or else I would for sure! (she always says ya for sure to hanging out at night but never happens)
Me: I'm not sure you could handle a ctown rager
Her: fuck ya I could
Me: you gotta be able to handle me before you handle a ctown rager

Thats where it ended, too sexual too fast maybe? Should I still try to keep gaming this girl or forget it? Been talking for little under a month now.

Appreciate the help don!!
Well, her flaking on you has something to do with the lack of an established comfort level between you two.

The way I see in your texts, she's being evasive and very short in her replies. Which suggests to me that not only is there a lack of comfort, there is also a lack of attraction.

Let's talk about deal breakers :

A - She has a boyfriend. And they've been together for a while now. What's her position on that? 'Cause unless she's terribly attracted to you, I can see the "I have a BF" excuse being thrown your way, if you become a little more direct towards her than you are already.

B - You always initiate the texts, as you put it. That is never a good thing. It just means that there is an interest on only one side of the equation and that's yours. Unless, the balance is equal, there's not a single point in continuing to game the girl.

Right now, your primary aim should be to develop comfort with her and subtly create opportunities where attraction can be developed between you both.

Good luck. :)
Appreciate the advice man! I just have one more question.

Where should I go from here? Should I wait it out til she texts me? She's in one of my classes, however I normally sit with my other friends (sat with her 3-5 times).


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there is this girl that always agree to go out with me but the day that we are supposed to meet (we both agree that that day i have to call her for confirmation) i call her and she doesn't anwer.
She also say that if there is a problem she will text me but she doesn't....it happend twice already so i'm pissed.
Yesterday she send me a message " hey :) " i haven't answer yet.
I want to tell her that i don't like her behaviour and she can't act like that with me......the only thing is that she said just "hi " so i don't know if going straight to the point is a good think.
I'd like to say her " you were supposed to text me and you dindn't....i don't like this behaviour, why do you say we are going to meet if eventually you don't ?you can't act like this with me".
should i write a message and tell her this or should i just say "hi how are you " and after something she reply go to the point?


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So I had a 2 minute conversation with this girl...nothing big.

But then later, we and like 20 other people played this game where the person next to you ask a question, and you say the names of people in the room. People who want to find out the question has to drink.

Anyway when it was her turn to answer her question, she said my name. Her question was something like who do you want to be left with after the party tonight?
Well this is a huge IOI, she literally said out of all the people, she wants to be with me.

When it was my turn, the guy next to me fucked it up. He asked me who is the easiest pull tonight? And I said her. Needless to say, she was pissed.

Everyone leaves and it was just me, her and this other guy. This other guy was obviously into her. He cockblocked me by talking about, oh how was your night with [insert other girls name]? Did anything happen that night? You were so touchy.

Nothing happened that night. I guess I couldve made a move, but I didn't.

Anyway we text back and forth a bit.

1:30am
me: hey sorry about tn...I'm such a jerk. Would love to get to kno u better over a cup of coffee sometime!
her:it's ok. Dun worry about that. gnite
me: gnite [name]

6:52pm
me: [name]! Hru?
her: hru?
7:17pm
her: Oh. I'm ok. Busy lar
7:44pm
me: Haha what a nerd
me: Want to study together? I need to write an essay.
8:34pm
her: Haha y do u need to write an essay?
9:06pm
me: Supervision!
her: Comscis write essays?
me: No philosophy...1500 words fml (i texted her right back, prolly mistake)
10:05pm
me: Hey nerdball, bedtime for you yet?
her: Lol no lar too much work
me: Aww that's too cute


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ok so, basically i get a number close using direct daygame (i prefer daygame and im starting to like going direct). most of my interactions are quite short... like i will open usually with a soi, stack into a canned routine and then maybe just flow some natural convo for maybe 5 minutes tops before i number close.
when and how do i then open with a txt to start building rapport?
pumpington told me he likes to txt the girl within an hour of the close and basically keep the convo going....?
3-vt117525.html?start=30
if you read my day1.1 post on this link this i s a girl i closed a few days ago and txtd her the next day saying "hey hb, this is safety. it was nice meeting you yesterday. hope your having a good day." no reply. which sucks because i felt like she was very genuine in giving me her number. so i wanna know if it is my pre close or my post close game that killed this one.
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I need some help with this girl I've been texting for a few weeks now. At first she was a little shy but she has become a bit more comfortable with me.
We text usually at least a couple times a day and usually about the stupidest stuff (I texted her at 3 am asking what I should cook, she responded with "Ahaha without fail the best text I've ever received! Carbonara.", she's texts me most mornings with "tell me about your latest drunken antics! they make my day" and that kind of thing).

Problem is I'm really not very good at being direct and sometimes she won't text me back. I don't have much of a problem sending another text and she'll usually respond with replies to both texts, which is confusing.

Anyway, it's getting to the point that I really want to set something up to meet or what have you, but I don't know how to go about it from general texting. Do I just say out of the blue, hey, party at the flat on monday, how about you drop by?

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hey don, could use some help with this girl ive been gaming recently.. heres how it went down:

ME [9:05]: Flirt with me... ready..set.. GO!

HER [9:08]:ahahahaha is this an order from you!?

ME [9:25]: Yes, and then we'll make out via text... Oo how hot ;)

HER [9:32]: Ahahahahahah well then, sounds like a deal ;)

ME [9:35]: Here: Muazzzzzzzz, with tongue! (courtesy of latin diesel)

HER [9:38]: Did you create this makeout via text message thing? hehehe

ME [9:48]: lol have you forgotten that i have a 2005 phone? the only app i have is a 30 sec trial of bejeweled. No text just makeout lalalalalallaaaaa ;)


no response-- radio silence... i dont think i messed it up, i usually would have compliance from her. where do i go from here? thanks khedira ;)


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update, replied with a simple

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i later asked her out on a group hangout, to which she replied she "has to take care of a little kid that day :("


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Appreciate the advice man! I just have one more question.

Where should I go from here? Should I wait it out til she texts me? She's in one of my classes, however I normally sit with my other friends (sat with her 3-5 times).
Well, you don't have to totally give her the cold shoulder, as to say.

Be polite to her, but a bit more formal. She will be confused by your sudden keeping a distance between you two and you can work that to your advantage.

At the same time, whenever you are with her, start making her feel a bit more comfortable with you. Less teasing, more comfort building for now.

Good luck.


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there is this girl that always agree to go out with me but the day that we are supposed to meet (we both agree that that day i have to call her for confirmation) i call her and she doesn't anwer.
She also say that if there is a problem she will text me but she doesn't....it happend twice already so i'm pissed.
Yesterday she send me a message " hey :) " i haven't answer yet.
I want to tell her that i don't like her behaviour and she can't act like that with me......the only thing is that she said just "hi " so i don't know if going straight to the point is a good think.
I'd like to say her " you were supposed to text me and you dindn't....i don't like this behaviour, why do you say we are going to meet if eventually you don't ?you can't act like this with me".
should i write a message and tell her this or should i just say "hi how are you " and after something she reply go to the point?
Look, the number one reason for flaking is the lack of an established comfort level and easy rapport between two people. Unless she has that required idea of comfort in her mind associated with you, she wouldn't want to be seen out with you. It's that simple. :)

Now, you don't need to take out all your frustration on her, even if that is a tempting way to deal with the situation. Look, there is obviously something missing in the interaction, either it's what I mentioned above or it might just simply be a lack of attraction.

Now, that being said, and it's a very general solution. I would appreciate if you went into a bit more depth about the details, how long have you known her, a brief text log and such.

Good luck to you.


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So I had a 2 minute conversation with this girl...nothing big.

But then later, we and like 20 other people played this game where the person next to you ask a question, and you say the names of people in the room. People who want to find out the question has to drink.

Anyway when it was her turn to answer her question, she said my name. Her question was something like who do you want to be left with after the party tonight?
Well this is a huge IOI, she literally said out of all the people, she wants to be with me.

When it was my turn, the guy next to me fucked it up. He asked me who is the easiest pull tonight? And I said her. Needless to say, she was pissed.

Everyone leaves and it was just me, her and this other guy. This other guy was obviously into her. He cockblocked me by talking about, oh how was your night with [insert other girls name]? Did anything happen that night? You were so touchy.

Nothing happened that night. I guess I couldve made a move, but I didn't.

Anyway we text back and forth a bit.

1:30am
me: hey sorry about tn...I'm such a jerk. Would love to get to kno u better over a cup of coffee sometime!
her:it's ok. Dun worry about that. gnite
me: gnite [name]

6:52pm
me: [name]! Hru?
her: hru?
7:17pm
her: Oh. I'm ok. Busy lar
7:44pm
me: Haha what a nerd
me: Want to study together? I need to write an essay.
8:34pm
her: Haha y do u need to write an essay?
9:06pm
me: Supervision!
her: Comscis write essays?
me: No philosophy...1500 words fml (i texted her right back, prolly mistake)
10:05pm
me: Hey nerdball, bedtime for you yet?
her: Lol no lar too much work
me: Aww that's too cute
Well, maybe that was an IOI or maybe she was just being inquisitive. Either way, you did well in assuming it as such and moving on. :wink:

Now, calling her the "easiest pull" wasn't such a smart idea, in fact, it could probably be the deal breaker. There was nothing your buddy could've said or done that would have maligned your image in her eyes, than you already did by objectifying her. It's how it is. She doesn't care two shits about what your friend said, maybe she'd feel a little bad but she would get over that. But, the fact that you called her easy might've turned her off more than you would realise.

Again, the text conversations signify her cold state towards you, but her giving short and curt replies. You needed to fix this that night itself, ideally, by calling/texting her until you made it perfectly clear to her that you did not mean anything of what you said, that it was a game and you would never disrespect her like that, that you value her more that that.. blah blah blah.

So, if it is not too late already, then that it your Hail Mary to work with. NEVER let a girl sleep with negative emotions attached to your name, it will screw with your whole plan, when she wakes up next morning.

Good luck. And thanks for thinking of me.


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ok so, basically i get a number close using direct daygame (i prefer daygame and im starting to like going direct). most of my interactions are quite short... like i will open usually with a soi, stack into a canned routine and then maybe just flow some natural convo for maybe 5 minutes tops before i number close.
when and how do i then open with a txt to start building rapport?
pumpington told me he likes to txt the girl within an hour of the close and basically keep the convo going....?
3-vt117525.html?start=30
if you read my day1.1 post on this link this i s a girl i closed a few days ago and txtd her the next day saying "hey hb, this is safety. it was nice meeting you yesterday. hope your having a good day." no reply. which sucks because i felt like she was very genuine in giving me her number. so i wanna know if it is my pre close or my post close game that killed this one.
thanks
Hello. :)

Well, I read that and while you did win her over initially with your confidence and playfulness, you seemed to forget that all the details aside, you are still just another guy who complimented her on her looks, whatever be the reasoning, unless you are going to establish your standing as someone "different" than the usual guys who approach her, she is going to think of you as just another stranger.

So, what you had to two was two things :

A - Text her sooner. If not the hour after, then definitely that day. You needed to cement your place, as soon as you could.

B - Set yourself apart. I tell people that you need to appeal to women, using something different, something which tells them that it's you. You could've addressed her as "Seaweed girl" and she would remember who you are, simply put because no other guy would've said that to her all day and it would be your unique calling name.

Hey, you know what, why don't you give it another shot before casting her off to the land of the lost women. :wink:

Good luck, man.


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