So i asked this girl out yesterday, exchanged some hot messages prior to the meeting and we got together. Made out (a lot), got touchy feely and we're together now. I suck at relationships so i'm wondering, when's the best time to call her or how often should i do it ? I was previously in a relationship with a girl that would call/text me around the clock like crazy, so i'm not used to a "normal" girl.

Second, i went in for the goods. Started caressing her knees, went up her legs, played with her inner thighs, etc. Didn't rush it, tried to arouse her. Got to the pussy and after like 20 seconds she pulled my hand. I did this a few times and looking back at it i think i was kinda pushy. What i'm wondering is, on a first date (and the second at that), is it ok to be so persistent ?

Thanks.

Don't call or text her too often otherwise you will come across as needy and clingy, you have a life outside of her remember? As for how often... Well that just takes some calibration I'm afraid.

Persistence is ok as long you don't take it TOO far. Where were you when you were trying this? It's better to be in a "seduction location" so she feels more comfortable.

Well, for your first question, I think the answer is to call her when you want to. When you really, really want to. I know that right now the novelty of the new relationship is enough for you to want to text her every walking minute. But, in my personal experience, the magic wears out, sooner rather than later. And then, you will automatically experience a drastic drop in the calling/texting routines, as you knew them previously. Don't be alarmed, the real part of the relationship has just begun.

Talk to her, they say that attraction is a never ending process. Must be for a reason, right? Focus on building more attraction and comfort with her.



Well, a lot of women follow the "No sex on first date" policy. So, if she's not being as open to putting out there could be that explanation.

The second could be lack of an established comfort level between you two. If she is not entirely comfortable with the idea of sleeping with you, yet. She won't let you get to that stage.

One of the most common reasons is the last minute resistance or LMR, as they call it in the community, it's a token resistance women put up before men for a variety of reasons. I would suggest you check out the "Closing and Day 2’s" part of the subforum for some techniques that would be helpful for you to deal with this.

Good luck.

This is how it went down. We met on Friday on the buss (she's 19, i'm 25), made her laugh a lot, she told me we had a lot in common (foreign languages, some hobbies, etc) after our chat and that it's interesting (with a grin). Asked me lots of questions, seemed interested.

She said she was going to some party on Saturday and that i should come with her, i pretended i didn't hear that because i couldn't be arsed and then she asked me again after some time. I said i'll see about it, and she asked me for my phone number out of the blue (i know, i'm one of the lucky few). When i got off the buss she said "kiss you" (we got this affectionate saying in my language), was quite surprised.

Sunday night (yesterday) i text her (i hate it but she was working) :"hey sexy, comment ca va ? " which is French for what's up ? (tried to bring back buss memories) Lots of "kiss you" again and she sent me a "kiss you even more" when i did it. We meet in the buss station, i kiss her on the cheeks (she leaned in too which is good) and we went out for a walk as she didn't want to go into a club or bar. I took her hand right away, under the pretext of warming ourselves and we were walking like we were bf/gf for ages, playing with our fingers, doing thumb wars, laughing a fucking lot.

I lean towards her for whatever reason and she thought i was trying to kiss her so she leaned in to kiss me back, though i pulled back since it wasn't my intention and it came out weird. 20 yards later she's talking like a machine so i stop her dead in the tracks, pull her slowly next to me with laser eyes (credit to someone on the forums for this lol) and we started making out. And holy shit did she go wild, she was pulling the hair on the back of my head, moving her hands on my cheeks, some faint moans, etc. One horny little critter.

We got to a bench, i sat down with my legs apart, totally relaxed and chill, she sat to my right with her whole body towards me. We started making out again, so i started playing with her knee, gently caressing and moving my fingers up and down her legs, on the interior, exterior, didn't follow a pattern. Reached the inside of her thighs right next to her pussy, and then i grabbed her firmly and it was like she exploded, i thought she would swallow me whole. Started caressing her pubic area, and after 20 seconds or so she grabbed my hand and we intertwined our fingers.She wasn't nervous, nor shy or hesitant. We repeated this like 2-3 times and then i took her hand and placed it on the inside of my thigh, and told her to go higher, see what she finds. She told me that i'm a little perv, smiling and giggling. On our way back to the buss station i pulled her onto the side like 3-4 times and we started making out again like crazy, very passionate and touchy. At one point i opened her jacket and blouse and reached for her boob, but after like 10 seconds she pulled my hand away again. She didn't seem bothered by it and i got the feeling that she didn't want to put out from the first date.

One thing i noticed when we were walking was that whenever she was talking she would never look me in the eye but straight ahead. At one point i got sick of it and grabbed her head and slowly turned it towards me while she was saying some random shit, she then started to laugh about it.

She said she was very busy today and tomorrow (Monday and Tuesday), so we'll talk later, and i pretended to be busy as well this week. We didn't set up a follow up date. This is why i asked if i should at least give her a call if i'm not getting to see her.

I'm looking for a quote: "solid, deep relationship" but alas i don't get the GF material vibe from her.

Like i said, she was very open and positive about making out and being together, totally got into it from the start.

TLDR i know.