okay so haloweens coming up and for the past year I've had the biggest crush on this hb so I struggle to get into full on conversation with her.
so I've came up with a haloween opener that could potentially end in a date but I want the professionals opinion first
OPENER:
I go in the shop say whats up and grab whatever I need the haloween stand is right next to her so I look at it and say
me: So what you gonna be for haloween? no wait let me guess you should be a sloth cause even though you look tired all the time...your still kinda cute
hb: laughs and ask me what I'm dressing as
me: I'm gonna be shaggy from scooby doo but I'm having trouble finding a goofy enough pair of trousers maybe you could be my fashion advisor for the weekend :p
hb: sure (innocent non date scenario plus its shopping I cant lose)

so what do you guys think? in my view its perfection combining the neg and the compliment at the start
thanks for reading

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I think that every successful man should have 3 women at his funeral. One that's crying, one that's smiling and one that's buying things on her laptop with his will.

Ya, calling a woman a "sloth" is a good idea...

I can understand why so many dudes here aren't getting laid. Most women are insecure about their looks, I wouldn't go there with a neg it just looks classless and will probably make most girls feel like shit.

the thing is all I'm doing is saying she looks tired kind of shows I care in a way plus I back it up with a compliment, its just being playful really.

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I think that every successful man should have 3 women at his funeral. One that's crying, one that's smiling and one that's buying things on her laptop with his will.

that sloth neg might backfire in ur face I would be careful with it. And it is kinda long for a checkout girl what if its busy,shes working does she really have time to help you shop? And the last thing you want to do is bottleneck her cue. I Dnt mean to put ur openner down, but you have 1 or 2 minutes at the most in the checkout line going direct with something short and fun will have more of a impact on her in the least amount of tym. Goodluck dude

I wouldn't be so specific with your opener, scenarios change all the time. You should just go in there and be confident and direct and talk to her, if you feel like the convo is going well, ask her out!

LMAO

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Well that`s the idea of investing you retard.
If she makes time for him she will offer him more compliance.

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When you give so much value to the opener it seems to me you've still got a very long way to go. There is no 'perfect' opener and while you are making a giant fuzz and even an internet-topic about it, it will be no more than a simple question te her. Which means to her it's jack shit.

But if you wonder if it's ok for a starter to ask a girl what she's wearing: yes it is.

when your going for a girl who is working at the time the openers very important cause you are basically going from opener to # close theres no time for mid game or kino. because time is money when shes working.
also your saying its not worth being a topic, I put an opener in the Aproaching and Opening section! sue me!

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I think that every successful man should have 3 women at his funeral. One that's crying, one that's smiling and one that's buying things on her laptop with his will.

I'm not saying it's not worth a topic. I'm saying you're making way to much of a fuzz about it in your head. Just go for it and chat with the girl. Openers mean nothing. Even when the period of time in which you can chat with her is very short they mean nothing. You can have equal chances on getting her number when you start with 'I do not like halloween." or "Halloween rhymes with drag queen, which I am not" or "I'd have the shop but I'll settle for your number". Four openers regarding your particular subject. It's all the same.

But don't see it as a personal attack. I know lots of people who think it's all about the opener while everybody knows that's just a very very tiny part of the game. The initial impression is non-verbal, not verbal.

I wish you the best of luck anywayz and be a date be with you on that halloween thing.

Yeah you definitely shouldn't call her a sloth dude that wouldn't work in your favor at all. Instead of sloth say a sexy police officer or sexy nurse. Not anything insulting like that neg or not BUT don't give her any compliments. Stick with the game

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I think that every successful man should have 3 women at his funeral. One that's crying, one that's smiling and one that's buying things on her laptop with his will.

I've got an opener that I've been itching to use with a cute girl at my supermarket -- except that I haven't seen her there for a few weeks, damn it. Goes like this:

"Hi. It seems like you're always checking me out."

Obviously, "checking me out" has two meanings, and you can look at her face to see how she takes it. If she blushes or something, then after a pause you say:

"so to speak"

This should make her giggle, and then you can say, "Nah, I like it. You seem like a cool girl. I'd like to give you a call some time. Why don't you right your number down on my receipt?"

If she doesn't react to the "checking me out" entendre, it probably means she's not interested, and you can just bail without feeling complete rejection. But if she does react, that's an IOI and it'll be a cinch to get her number.

Seriously, give it a try and let me know how it goes.

For starters, I think it says somewhere that you should only neg if they do something wrong.
Secondly, I think you should try this.
Do the whole stand next to her.
You: Hey what are you gonna be for halloween?
HB: Nurse or w/e...
You: That's boring, everyone else is probably going to do that this year, why don't you try something cool?
HB: What?
You: Well I'm gonna be shaggy this year, and I'm holding auditions for scooby. If you play your cards right, I might just let you do it. (delivery is important)

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hey dude, impressive double stacking of your negs in the opener!
people say the negs might backfire, that's true, why don't you have a rough contingency plan for if it doesn't go well?

I have a bad habit of over-negging but now I see that too many times I've appologised for over-negging instead of standing my ground and saying something like "oh come on, you can take a joke can't you?" or "jeez drama city, I was only kidding" I don't know, something I'm working on.

good luck!

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