I've got a few (3-4) targets picked out from day game and through friends. If we hang out they consistently laugh, we talk about sex subtly throw in ideas of sex between me and the girl, even throwing in some kino and intense eye contact. I have no idea where I am going wrong. I get the flake vibe every once in a while and it throws off my confidence. I get the feeling they are all into me but still seem to hold back when it gets to anything physical. K closes are even difficult. On the other hand i have some other fems that i cant stand to hang out with that are obsessed with me. How do i make , feel the same my targets feel the same way about me that the ones i am less attracted to do?

Overall, it seems like you know what you are doing with kino and sexualizing the conversation. They are obviously attracted to you or they wouldn't be hanging out with you past the first day. What are you doing to build rapport and comfort with them? How long are you spending doing that?

There are certain questions that women want to know about a man before they sleep with him. Things like: Are you close to your family? Do you have siblings? What you do for a living... Your name obviously... What you do for fun. What are you passionate about? Who are you friends? What was your longest relationship? Where did you grow up? Where did you go to college? (Credit Sinn)

There are definitely others that some women want answered but these are definitely the basics women want to know before sleeping with someone. Now granted you can't just tell her this stuff you need to spend a little time during comfort going over these things so she has a better feel for who you are as a person.

I spent a couple hours with one of them going through all of that. I told her im not looking for a relationship after i got the vibe she wasnt either. I am generally not a believer in the friend zone but i feel like i might have finally gotten stuck in it. one also mentioned not messing around with any guys, i forgot the reason since i took it as a load of shit.

Well keep in mind it usually takes a while in comfort to get there. Usually a few hours worth. Some say 7, I say that's shit and think it's at least 4 could be as many as 10 depending on the girl... An hour isn't much time for her to really get to know who she's gonna sleep with. Don't get me wrong you can seduce a girl into sex in under and hour in some cases but you won't be able to build much from it.

Her objection to not messing around with any guys could be a real objective or it could just be a small hurdle. You'll have to spend more time with her to know. Sometimes it means I just need to be more comfortable with you first. Other times it means, I'm saving myself for marriage period...