Very cute (8.5) but inexperienced girl. How to progress?



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:33 pm 
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OK so I have met this girl (cute rather than sexy, a bit nerdy and obviously well educated 8.5) at one my University social clubs 3 times and each time it has gone great. Immense rapport and attraction. The last time she asked me to walk her home so she obviously trusts me. I really want to step it up with her, meet her out of the club and kiss her.

Anyway, I think she may be very inexperienced, a bit scared, and possibly a virgin. She made a joke about her ex-boyfriend to me, and then mentioned that that was back in year 7 at school (in UK schools this would of made her about 11-12). Even if shes not a virgin, she seems inexperienced and genuinely innocent. She is not stuck up, and does not think that she is hot shit and untouchable at all.

I'm a bit confused about how to progress with her, especially over Facebook chat (rather annoyingly she doesn't have a contract phone so therefore never has money to text-message, which I find a lot better than the immediate relayed replies of FB chat).

I asked her to meet me a few days ago and she ignored the message so I'm a bit anxious about asking again...I may in a few days anyway.

Any advice on how to advance with hot, but possibly inexperienced girls? How do I not freak them out? Should I tone down the alpha male stuff for her?


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OK so I have met this girl (cute rather than sexy, a bit nerdy and obviously well educated 8.5) at one my University social clubs 3 times and each time it has gone great. Immense rapport and attraction. The last time she asked me to walk her home so she obviously trusts me. I really want to step it up with her, meet her out of the club and kiss her.

Anyway, I think she may be very inexperienced, a bit scared, and possibly a virgin. She made a joke about her ex-boyfriend to me, and then mentioned that that was back in year 7 at school (in UK schools this would of made her about 11-12). Even if shes not a virgin, she seems inexperienced and genuinely innocent. She is not stuck up, and does not think that she is hot shit and untouchable at all.

I'm a bit confused about how to progress with her, especially over Facebook chat (rather annoyingly she doesn't have a contract phone so therefore never has money to text-message, which I find a lot better than the immediate relayed replies of FB chat).

I asked her to meet me a few days ago and she ignored the message so I'm a bit anxious about asking again...I may in a few days anyway.

Any advice on how to advance with hot, but possibly inexperienced girls? How do I not freak them out? Should I tone down the alpha male stuff for her?
Calibration. It's all about calibrating the interaction. She might be innocent, but she still has a vagina. Meaning, she can still get excited and all that.

Do not treat her like she's Virgin Mary or whatever, simply be confident without being too sexual too soon (unless you can tell things are getting there...calibration ;) ).

If you invited her out and it didnt work, you may have to step back and start all over. First, I'd double check to see if there's still attraction/interest from her. If you get to talk to her and things seem normal, then it's safe to assume you still have a shot.

Do not bring back the fact that she didnt respond to your invitation. It's not necessary.

Again, if you can still establish some sort of interaction with her, rinse it all off and start gaming her again. Do not rush things, do not be creepy, do not try to invite her out right away (unless you seem extremely interested....calibration...did i mention this word before?! lol)

Good luck Alphabet.

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Yeah I guessed all that stuff but thanks for the response. It helped me get some validation on the situation.

I think I may have confused her and maybe acted like I actually don't want her, rather than that I don't need her. I'm mainly worried that I have acted totally out of her league since talking with her over Facebook chat. I have tried to redeem this a few times over FB chat by acting nicer to her, and subtly complimenting her, but she ignores it (except for once where it got the conversation going again after she ignored me because she thought I was just being really mean and nasty to her), so I don't want to keep doing it and make it awkward. Possibly I should simply try and converse with her as little as possible over Facebook chat until a later date?

In real life, when I have seen her I constantly bust her balls and she seems to love it (she even told me I was the funniest guy she had ever met - blatant IOI as well as other IOI's she has given me), but this approach doesn't seem to work as well over Facebook chat. So I have tried to calibrate the online conversations into something less intense, and more into general humor and jokes, but still a bit cocky, so that she responds more consistently (which has worked).

Luckily my housemate is having a party next week so I will invite her to that.


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Make out with her, I'm sure you can do this much... After that


DRY HUMP HER!!!



after you dry hump her, shit comes easy. I bang mormon girls left and right!


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The thing is, I totally forgot to do any kino with this girl when I have seen her. I had plenty of opportunities in retrospect, but it just slipped my mind for some reason...I was too busy making her laugh with my words. Wouldn't she be a bit freaked out if I tried to kiss her without any prior kino?

I didn't even get to hug her when I walked her home. It was my mistake, my mind went elsewhere for a second as I looked around her street and the next thing I knew we were outside her house (I didn't know it was approaching), she had locked the gate behind her leaving me outside it and was unlocking her front door. I was kicking myself on the way home as it may of made me seem like a bit of a wimp that I didn't try and hug her, or that I wasn't actually very interested in her. I didn't want to open the gate and seem like I was going to attack her haha. At least now I know her house is the ONLY house down the street with a gate on it.

When I next see her I will try and do some kino with her and see how she receives it as it seems a bit weird not to, and then try and kiss her at the end of the night.

If the kino isn't well received, I can assume that trying to k-close her at this point is a no. If it can be escatalated, then why not :D.

When it comes to a hug at the end of the night, perhaps I can say "well Im sure you can walk the rest by yourself (when her house is like 4 doors away)" so then there will be no physical obstacle she can use to evade it (makes me sound like I'm going to attack her :shock:) if she begins to over think stuff. Good idea?

I invited her to the party last night and she hasn't replied...I know she has seen the message as she has updated her status. If she ignores it, I will just start a whole new conversation with her and only ask her if she wants to come on the day (she knows its approaching, so I don't need to seem like I am trying to remind her).

This girl has been a lot more of a challenge than I anticipated. I thought she would literally be like putty in my hands and jump at an opportunity to spend time with me outside the social club.


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Any advice on how to advance with hot, but possibly inexperienced girls? How do I not freak them out? Should I tone down the alpha male stuff for her?
yeah forget the fact she's hot because there is one hot girl passing by on the streets in like every 5 seconds

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Any advice on how to advance with hot, but possibly inexperienced girls? How do I not freak them out? Should I tone down the alpha male stuff for her?
yeah forget the fact she's hot because there is one hot girl passing by on the streets in like every 5 seconds
I'm not intimidated by her looks anyhow. That hasn't been anything to do with my problem.

But yeah, truth. I do feel like I'm getting oneitis with this girl so I have been trying to combat it with that attitude.


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innergame issue ..

or you are investing too much because she's shy... ( you like her too much )

anyway .. close the deal or leave..

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Try to avoid fb chat and stuff. Not saying you screwed up, but the walk home was an opportunity to get a little physical.

Not necessarily sex and maybe or maybe not kissing but definitely some kino.

Don't be super anxious to communicate, especially on facebook. Not ripping you, because I've chatted and even met an old gf off of FB, but face to face is even better always.

If you've ever read David D, where he said,"give her the gift of missing you." You definitely need to give some women some time/space to think about you and literally miss you. Also, when you get used to this concept, you also can find it's better for you too.

Trust me, 10-15 years ago, after a great date with a new gal I was ready to see her again, but after dating some women who might've been Satan and some women who didn't give ME space to do do shit with my boys and stuff, I began to enjoy that too. It was like, hey I just had a great fucking time with this girl and now I'm going to go do man shit.

I will see her again and in the meantime, I will enjoy the last encounter for what it was and the next time I see her I will have waited so I'll be all the more amped or "in state".

Many men, especially younger, need external factors to "distract" their emotions. They don't have control over teir emotions. They don't self validate the feelings they want and invalidate the ones they want to ignore. So, they fill the void with external supplements, other women, alcohol, drugs, work, whatever, anything to distract their minds from that girl and not seem too eager.

Calibration, as mentioned above is a huge factor.

Also, escalating. Being on the lookout for opportunities to make moves and capitalizing on them when they come up. Again, not saying you did anything wrong when you walked that girl home but you would be better off in that situation to flirt more, try to get physical, try to hold her and kiss her and let her reject you if its not OK, than to not make a move and then try to establish something through Facebook.

Just mark this girl as a potential and meet some other girls but try to start again with her as mentioned above next time you see her as mentioned above.

Don't try to be an old married couple with her in establishing regular communication; try to be a fun, flirty, & sensual guy with confidence that every time she sees she wants to be around and let her win YOU over.

Just know your worth. Know you are awesome regardless and wait until your next opportunity to see her. Chill on the FB. You have now just let her know that that is one way she can feel comfortable contacting you, you projected interest by going for the meetup, which shoes your cards a bit so its ok, you may have shown too much too soon, but back off immediately and recalibrate as mentioned before. You got this.
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