Ok so this is a chick i randomly added on facebook, shes prolly an HB 9, like fuckin stunner, Ive never spoken to her before this conversation completely random add. I like to do this for practice with my game because hot chicks get added by hundred of guys all the time so if they dig me that has to be a good sign, plus it alleviates some of the stress with coming up with witty responses in seconds. So check this out and tell me what u think, i didnt re rehearse this, just natural convo that came up and worked awesome. Feel free to use it as long as u help me with the last part ! PS I just finished doing the 1 to 50 magic trick which is why she asks how i do that and she wears leopard print in her dp.

HB

hahaha how did you do thaat

Rochester
52 minutes ago
i dont just go around telling my secrets to anyone, besides i never know wat u could do with all that secret info, u seem like a world domination kinda person to me
51 minutes ago
HB
hahahahaha gee thanks


49 minutes ago
Rochester
cant be to careful besides i make sure never to trust anyone who wears leopard print clothing ... lol

45 minutes ago
HB
hahaha hey i like leopard

42 minutes ago
Rochester
thats a shame im sure we could be best friends but ur leopard thing is tearing us apart


42 minutes ago
HB

aw soo devoo

40 minutes ago
Rochester
i know, i couldve taken u over to the greek islands with me and u couldve been my bag handler, i wouldve even got u a special hat but now...

37 minutes ago
HB
i think im gunna go cry now


32 minutes ago
Rochester
yea u wouldve been an awesome bag handler. Couldve had so many adventures, we wouldve been like the next indiana jones. Make movies about us and everything


30 minutes ago
HB
hahahaha that would have been fun


28 minutes ago
Rochester
Lol what do you reckon our movie would be called ? Awesome Alex and Mad Maddie ?


27 minutes ago
HB
hahaha sounds good


24 minutes ago
Rochester
yea we could take on the bandits of the Greek islands and save the people, then at the end of the movie your arch phrase could be, I'll take that bag for you alex and I'll look u in the eye and say I got this one BAM !! end of the movie haha


21 minutes ago
Rochester
hahah got it all planned do yaa


17 minutes ago
Rochester
well thats wat wouldve happened but lets not forget u are a leopard wearer

And then it stops !! I get nothing back ! Isnt the first time ive worked a convo like this aswell and all of a sudden the line dies. So please guys i feel like im just about to get there but these random dead zones are holding me back

(Seeing as its facebook I changed my name and the girls name from HB and Rochester for privacy issues, obviously im not concerned about people knowing either my first name or her first name so i left that in, also left the time in so u could see response, obviously i deliberately waited abit before replying anyway, cause i dont want to look to eager for the conversation)

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It looks pretty good game to me and i really can't find any mistake in it but khuram is asking me to give him the keyboard as he has got something to say
Over to him
hey I actually see some problems in here. After teaching hundreds of guys in real life and online, the biggest mistake that i see they make is they try to generate attraction right away. I mean, yeah, they do it. You strike up the conversation with a chick and you are worried about her being bored or leaving the interaction (bad inner game) so you immediately get into the attractions. BOOM! SHE LEAVES OR STOPS RESPONDING OR JUST IGNORES YOU. Why does that happen? Because they are not even comfortable talking to you and you try to attract them? Eh? Not gonna work. Attraction without social comfort is an unwanted move. DONT BE AFRAID OF BEING CASUAL AND ASKING GETTING-TO-KNOW THEM QUESTIONS INITIALLY. ITS PERFECTLY OKEY. second biggest mistake i see that guys make a lot is that right after the opener they start to talk about them (why would she want to know?) throwing out dhvs expecting to generate attraction. IT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK WEIRD. When you start the interaction, they may have no interest in you and why should they have? But guess what? PEOPLE LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THEMSELVES. Talking about them adds value to the interaction and value makes them feel comfortable. If you were talking to Bill Gates, would you like the interaction to be longer? Why? THATS VALUE AND VALUES HAS MANY TYPES AND THERE ARE NUMBEROUS WAYS YOU CAN TRY TO ADD VALUE.
Initiall you want to make them comfortable talking to you and when you sense that they are comfortable talking to you and are not looking for excuses to leave the interaction THEN YOU WANT TO BREAK RAPPORT AND START BUILDING ATTRACTION.
Next thing is that you made the role play too long, think of it like this, if you were sitting on pc using fb and there are too many people messaging you, now a contact starts to tell you a false interesting story, would you really listen that till the end? I wont.
While gaming online, you want to talk about various topics quickly, generating comfort and giving an idea of what kind of person you are and then try to go for the number.
ANOTHER THING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN TOLD BEFORE AND I AM THE FIRST ONE TO INTRODUCE THAT TACTIC IS
What to do when a mistake of yours causes your target to lose interest? How to recover from that?
People say behave as if nothing happened and keep gaming but that doesnt help much, i mean in your case, you ignored you now what can you do to get back into the game?
WHEN EVER A MISTAKE OF YOURS CAUSES YOU TARGET TO LOSE INTEREST OR GIVE YOU AN IOD, TREAT IT AS A SHIT TEST AND AFTER YOU HAVE PASSED THAT, NOW GAME AS NORMAL.
To your success
Khuram

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Notice that every single one of her responses starts with "hahaha" and ends on the same line with a dead-end statement. She's not even thinking about the responses she's giving you back. She's not asking questions. She's not showing interest. Yeah, you're carrying the conversation forward, but you might as well be conversing with a stuffed animal.

Ok thanks khuram yea i was thiking maybe the story was going abit to longill keep it shorter next time and also i opened with the jealous girlfriend opener just because i thought she could relate to it and using an open thread i started talking to her about travelling which is why i came back to the greek islands but yea i can see where ur coming from with the dont jump into attraction right away although alot of guys say opener, transition, ATTRACTION, qualification, comfort etc. i remember reading in magic bullets that u want to get to the attraction phase as soon as possible, like within 2 minutes, not saying either way is right or wrong but if you could elaborate on how to make a convo interesting without attraction seeing as again i thought the point is to be someone different that she can talk to not the same boring conversation she has with every guy. ALSO she did reply after like 30 mins lol which i gave her shit for. She replied by saying leopard isnt that bad and i said wow it took u 30 minutes to come up with that response !? lol and joked with her about that. So yea any other little tips would be appreciated

@thedocta: I think thats a pretty negative way to look at this conversation, if she didnt want to talk to me then she is under no obligation to watsover especially on facebook where she could block me and delete me and never have to worry about running into me ever again. So instead of looking at the conversation negatively and saying how useless it is, as with the whole point of this post id appreciate help to tweak my game into perfection not have u just sledge it.

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magic bullet missed an important female's psychology rule and that is that women never let themselves get emotionally invested in someone that they are not even comfortable with. Think of it like this if a stranger came up to you and said, "hey monkey how is your day?" how are you going to feel? That is teasing but without initial comfort it feels awkward and like an insult. And now if that person had already talked to you for a few minutes and then delived it with a smile? Think about it. And how about if a man came up to you talking about his ex stripper gf right away, arent you going to feel weird? Or think why would he tell me all this? Whats his agenda? That just dont feel natural. Here is khuram's post on social comfort what-to-do-after-the-opener-social-comf ... 16860.html

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I'm just pointing out the facts. Who cares if she is an HB10, if she is this boring why keep wasting your time with her?

...... Im afraid he has a point here mate.... The stuff u are saying is great ,funny and witty BUT....She is not invested in the conversation , your coming up with all the wise cracks and she is just responding to them. The next time you run this try to get her involved in the answers ....Ask her what the film could be called etc... But the main thing is you need to be taking it somewhere ... What i mean is she is not likely going to meet up with you yet or give you her number ....The way it ended is technically fine . You elicited some good feeling in her which is the point...

Because u have done this she is likely going to chat to you again ...When she does try to get her to qualify herself to you then try to take it somewhere sexual .... Eventually number close...

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Thanks vision yea that clears up some areas i was having trouble with, i just find it hard to get through to the qualifiers so i guess thats something i need to work on, bu yea thanks again

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Yeah I agree with the posts^^^^^^. Its as if shes just going "lol" and "ok" to everything you say. Very one sided conversation. Have to engage her.

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The problem is you're trying to chat with a total stranger. Which with the right skill will work in real life but online it's far harder. Hot chicks are not waiting on random guys trying (yes I'm deliberately using the verb trying) to tease them. It just doesn't work that way.

But - yes this may sound weird reading the earlier part - it's always supportable you atleast try. This girl wasn't receptive - a probable mixture of firstly her being so hot she gets hit on too often for her to be waiting on someone to do it online and secondly a lack of initial attraction - but that doesn't mean other girls won't engage in your teasing.

There's a concept in some PUA communities called the 2/3 rule-- you give a girl 2/3 everything she gives you. This applies to everything from text messages to "I love yous." It's a good ratio for keeping her pursuing you without coming off as too aloof.

As far as numbers go, I counted the number of words per message in your conversation, starting from where you began (all hahahahas counted as one word):

Her: 6
You: 33
Her: 3
You: 18
Her: 5
You: 18
Her: 3
You 30
Her: 7
You: 27
Her: 6
You: 15
Her: 3
You: 53
Her: 7
You: 14

Total words: You: 208, Her: 40. Far from the golden 2/3 ratio, this conversation is going at a clip of 5/1. Imagine this dialogue in real life; would you expect the female to be wet with lust?

I can understand there will be times in which you need to speak more, especially when you're creating a role playing scenario such as this. And actually, I like your grasp of role-playing. You do a lot of things right (i.e., negging about leopard print, keeping your status above her pedestal, cold reading with the world domination line), but ultimately you reward her for not contributing to the fantasy with more effort. (You follow a 3-word response with 53 words.) When she throws out lines like "got it all planned out do ya," it means she's lost interest. Next time I'd suggest that you make her accountable for the banter more; ask a well-timed question or two to get her contributing, and the tone of the conversation would flow with a lot more push-pull synergy.

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