i need some feedback just to let it sink into my obsternate brain...

situation :

i met woman... there was alot of sexual interest going on .. me gaming , she being cocky all the time like me.

anyway i was interested in her in a sexual way .... i talked to her for months ( 90 % over the internet, not much time to meet people right now )

and after a while i started care less about getting the woman.. because she seemed a great woman who really understands me. i was more aiming on a friendship with her because i didn't want to ruin our relationship. at first sight she also looked like perfect relationship material but after a while i decided that is actually not the case although we really relate.

so i told her i like talking to her but im seeing her as a friend and nothing else.. after while i started opening up - i have great difficulty being open to people but she was someone i really could talk to.

at this point she is avoiding me... she doesn't reply... normally she would initiate contact like 8 out of ten times but suddenly i don't hear anything. i see her changing quotes on the internet and all that stuff but i don't get hold of her anymore....

im totally fooling myself like my ego got hurt... like she rejected me... but deep down inside i don't need a girlfriend... i just want someone to relate to, i just want someone to care you know.

i've been 100 % open and real to her..... i told her im seeing her as a friend and nothing else ...lately i've been a little bit needy because of my situation right now ( lots of stuff going on )....

suddenly i don't hear anything from her anymore...my gut says she only wants sex and she doesn't care about me... she gave me compliments and told me she cared about me - after i told her how i think about our relationship i don't hear anything from her anymore....

most guys would fucking drewl that a woman is all over them this way... but honestly i don't - it kind of hurt.. maybe more than getting rejected by woman or girlfriends im dating..

what is your take on this ?

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i think has to do with this, not a 100% but similar:


MISTAKE #5: Sharing
“How You Feel” Too Early In
The Relationship With Her

Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.

Attractive women are rare.

And they get a LOT of attention from men.

Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE TIME.

An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.

And guess what?

Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men.

That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.

They know what to expect.

And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.

This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast... and can't control themselves.

Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.

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She doesn't reply to you, so you have not much to lose, right?

I guess that the most powerfull thing you can do is to wait a while first (couple of days or weeks, depends on the situation), and if you still don't hear from her to tell her what you just said here, and to be honest. Have a frame or say something like "okay, it's fine if you don't want to see me anymore or that you're avoiding me. I'm cool with that. I just want to tell you that [insert story (not too long)] (f.e.) I genuinly find you a great person with whom I enjoyed being with. I'm happy that I've met you, and it hurted me that it has to end this way. Wish you the best." And then shut up and let her do the work.

Hope this helps you. Good Luck

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this is the whole problem ...

i cannot have female friends .. i attract them... they are attracted .. i want friendship and they feel rejected or stop talking to me in a whole....
a few weeks ago this other female friend - out of the blue she start talking about how she's unhappy with her current relationship.. starting giving me IOI and shit. She could not stand the fact im hooking up with other woman...

i attract woman , and i attract woman that want sex ... somehow i just can't have female friends... im talking about woman who i don't want to fuck.. i don't even want relationships with those woman.

i agree with you skills60... but i didn't want to hook up with this woman... i just liked her - nothing more.

i attract woman.. they can't be my friends
or i friendzone the woman and they bolts a few weeks later....

if i behave like a chode they STILL are attracted ...until after a few weeks when i start being very open in our friendship - suddenly i don't hear anything from them. true but this is a repeating fashion... i almost have it with all woman i meet...

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no do not do this, nooooo!

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yes, same thing happens to me, exactly the same... Usually with me they stop being friends when they get a new man, cause he starts getting jealous..

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Can you explain why you find this so bad? I'm absolutely not saying it's ideal. I see it rather as a last resort. What does it matter if she won't answer you or seek contact with you anymore? If you say this ^ (which rather is a guideline, should preferably said much shorter) you might be relieved and think afterwards "wow that wasn't actualy that hard to say why was I making such a big deal of it?".

I think it's not bad to say it, because he already said that he just wants to be friends. So he'll say something: "too bad you don't want to talk to me anymore, because I genuinely like you [EVEN THOUGH I WANT TO STAY FRIENDS AND DON'T WANT TO GO IN A RELATIONSHIP AND WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY].
In the end, if you're looking for a female friend, it's just like with oneitis: better to prevent than to cure. If you're a bit picky then I guess that you don't want to fuck every girl right? Mirror what girls would do and friendzone them from the beginning so she knows what to expect.

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What you are suggesting comes across a bit needy, and will push her away even more, and make op feel even worst... women are not logical.... Op say he wants to be friends but his actions are not congruent with what he is saying or not coming across that way to her, or maybe when op was opening up she got turn off, or maybe she just found someone else that got her attention and she lost momentum/interest for original poster... Many possibilities...Bottom line i do not agree with your suggestion... but is my opinion base on my experiences.

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Sexual elements exist even in the most platonic m/f relationships. Both parties know that sex is always a possibility unless identifiable blockages exist; one is 400 pounds, believes in racial differences, social groups, etc . . .

What you told her, in the way you told her is to say, "You are a 400 pounder to me."

Even guys have problems with messages such as ^this. This forum is filled with guys yelping female-like hissy fits, "She just LJBF me!" The replies(advice) are even worse. "Brush it off! Move on! You're better than her! Take a breather!" - What would you have a girl do?

Not sure why so many of us feel as if we need to stand up on stage to offer Shakespearean like speeches but we often do this. And when things don't work out, what do we say? "Hey, I was 100% honest with her!" - In your case, I'd say that you weren't even honest. You tell US that you wanted a good friend who cares. If you HAD TO give her a 'speech', shouldn't the "Hey, I'm really glad we're friends," speech take precedence over what amounts to, "I am better than you. . ."?

You had sexual interests for her before, how do you know it won't ever return? How do you know which way your 'friendship' will go? You don't . . . and yet you felt you had to offer her the never ever speech.

"Oh . . . if we weren't such good friends, I'd rip your clothes off right now!" - Similar message, different dynamic.

lod i would love to share my thoughts even though i have to use my friends id as i have been following you around and i kinda feel what you are going through these days in your life. I read all the advice thats been given to you, i would say thats just the normal community talk,"dont show interest early, dont open up early" unfortunately we dont even bother to go out in the reall field and challenge these old ideas. Its perfectly ok to open up with girl with, "i am an alpha and i have going this and this going through my mind, and i dnt give a fuck about what you think" and its so so so attractive to women. And i say this with 100% confidence as i have gamed many girls and also learned from the experience of the guys that i taught.
And you told her that you dont want anything more then friendship so even if an old school pua thinks of it, its not wrong as it makes you look hard to get and more attractive. My intrepretation of the situation is
INITIALLY SHE WAS INTERESTED IN YOU (AND SHE STILL IS ) BUT YOUR SAYING I DO NOT WANT MORE THAN FRIENDSHIP MADE YOU A KIND OF CHALLENGE. SHE COULD NOT FIND ANY WAY TO BREAK YOU AND JUST DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO. BEING DISAPPOINTED SHE MINDLESSLY STARTED IGNORING YOU AS CONSCIOUSLY SHE COULDNT FIND A WAY TO GO. SO SHE IS JUST FOLLOWING HER NATURAL BEHAVIOUR (BEING GUIDED BY HER UNCONSICOUS) SO THATS A KIND OF UNCONSICOUS SHIT TEST.
Its nothing wrong with you, she just dont know how to handle being rejected (romantically) by a guy that she was attracted to.
That was about the situation, you are in.
Now how to game girls without making them sexually attracted to you?
And the truth is YOU CAN NEVER EVER STOP A GIRL FROM GETTING SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO YOU. GIRLS HAVE DIFFERENT LIKES AND DISLIKES SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE A GIRL WHO WOULD GET SEXUALLY INTERESTED IN YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD STOP HER BEING ATTRACTED TO YOU.
So the alternative best solution is to tweak your game. As we know when we start speaking to the girl, we start to convey an image of ourselves (thats where you are getting girls attracted) what we want to do is we want to control our image and we want to convey an image of a guy who is fun, attractive, cool BUT HAS SEX WITH MANY WOMEN AND EVEN DOES 3SOME. WE WANT TO CONVEY THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. So in the end we either get a girl who is your friend and doesnt get sexual with you because she thinks you are a player or we get a fuck buddy. Win/win
to your success
khuram

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wowow talking about perseverance khuram seriously lol!

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if you read carefully, i didnt say lod to keep gaming neither did i say not to game. I just explained the situation and left it to lod as its his personel choice whether he wants to continue gaming or not

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khumar i am talking about you and your personal perseverance, it has nothing to do with the post...You get banned, come back, get banned again and come back, you are not quitter lol...

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thanks buddy actually, its the first forum that i ever joined, thats true that i had been rude, and its also true that i got banned for my behaviour. But it being the first forum that i ever joined and then spending time here, i have developed a kind of attachment with this forum. And whenever i see someone in need or a post being ignored, i just jump in. True, there are many to help, true i may not be the best, but i just play my part.

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double post

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