hey guys this is my first post. I went out last night and approched 3 sets, i'm having trouble getting passed the opener. heres how the first one went down.

I opened with the kissing cheating routine (say my brother caught his gf kissing another girs and now he's stressed and pissed and bailed on comming out tonight) to one of the girls and her friend was leaning in to listen. The friend was the first to answer saying that 'it is ok aslong as its not behind closed doors" (in short form). I said something like "oh....i see" instead of elaborating on what she said. She then turned away and talked to some friends behind her. The target stayed beside me and then gave me her oppinion which was basicly the same as her friend's. I blanked out and said "realy, ok thats interesting, thanks for your oppinion" and i went back to my friends

I know i should of said a time constraint but i forgot, and I didn't know how to stay in the set.

Can i get advice on how to better preform next time? thx

You can always elaborate her comment or switch it to using a FTC followed by "but one more quick question - insert routine". Than you can go for some light kino , negs and so on.

Awesome, thanks man. I'll try it out

You are clearly new to the game and even thought you may have read some books about the game, I can tell that you don't really understand the basic of pick-up.

First of, don't take it personal! You are clearly not the worst in here and that's why I am actually taking the time to answer you. Congratulations, you had the balls to open a set! By doing so, you are probably better than many guys who just posts in this forum and don't do anything to improve. Your opener's were allright. They did the job (They started a conversation) but you just couldn't do any transition...

Lets see this from a different perspective. When you are hanging out with your buddies and one of your friends starts talking with another friends that you don't know. What do you usually do? In this case, your friend did the opening part. He started the conversation with the guy. Now it's time for a transition in order to go further in the conversation. What do you usually do? You introduce yourself... Hi, I'm Matt, nice to meet you. blah blah blah...

This is a transition. You do it all the time with strangers in your everyday normal life, why don't you do it with girls? This has nothing to do with pick up, this is about social skills.

Let's have a look at your situation... From what I've read, the girls never rejected you. They didn't tell you to go away, they didn't tell you to fuck off, they didn't run away... They even answered you! They never rejected you, you did... You ran away... Without even trying. Forget the time constraint bullshit, just introduce yourself. Then follow up with whatever you can think of! Funny story, cool anecdotes, if you want to become a social robot, you could follow up with a routine you made up or DHV story (But you don't need to do it... I never plan what I'm going to say).

My point is... Do something! Whatever you do, it's okay, as long as you do something! Don't be afraid to come out too hard and be rejected. It WILL happen. Pick up is a game, sometimes you win sometimes you lose!

Wayne Gretzki once said: You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

You get my point.

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Well I have to let you know that I'm comfterble talking to girls, I'm able to make conversation with ones I don't know. But now that I take a step back I realize that it was always day game, i didnt have the intention of picking up, and they were always situational openers...never planed, and it worked great. My father always told me to "never look but always keep your eyes open". And that's awesome advice, but I now want to look and keep my eyes open

Now I want to learn how to approach with intentions, witch is making me thin twice about what I'm gonna say. I'm for sure gonna get better, I just need time.

I will post somethin next time I go out.

Jaycee.