hey guys I've been dating this girl for about a week now and she's extremely inexperienced, and it doesn't help that I've only gotten laid once and i didn't even have to spit game to earn it she was a slut, so now I'm dating this inexperienced girl who's never even kissed a guy before and I really want to get laid so please enlighten me

details: all we do is hug
I'm probably gonna kiss close tomorrow
she thinks that people should get married before sex
all she does is text never tried calling I think her phone plan has something to do with it
I've been needy with a few things but to balance it out I never text her first and I barely talk to her when I'm around her friends which are all girls and they all like it when im around so i have pretty good social proof

Iv been through the same thing, and its wasnt easy, comfort building is the key here and lots of it, if its her 1st time she wont give it up to anyone she doesn't trust. Be warned a virgin is not a slut, the sex is slow and bad and she will remember you forever good or bad its a big deal for her.Id stick to the ''sluts'' personally.

I feel you on that but when it comes to pick up I have approach anxiety issue so being picky between virgins and sluts really isn't an option lol and I would hate to give up I kissed her today but I felt like she was pushing herself to do it cause it's what I wanted instead of it being what she actually wanted so I really need to build more comfort any good ideas

she probably likes you so already so just keep dating her and she will probably keep showing up. But if shes a virgin I might have just an iota more compunction about humping her, so maybe you have to ask yourself if its really worth all this effort?

Oh ya bro, as far as your approach anxiety goes, there is only one way to overcome it. Talk to everyone and start to approach girls everywhere you go regardless of outcome or knowing what your going to say. Your going to be shocked about how friendly most woman are, and how most of what your inner voice is saying that's stopping you from approaching is almost always full of shit.

I dated the girl for 4 months before she allowd me to sleep with her for the 1st tym, I wish I could help you out but I got my own afc problems. Gudluck dude

Bro virgins are a tough nut.There are however a couple of things you can do:

1.Have a good mindset.Awknoledge the fact that it might take QUITE some time to pull it off.So,decide if it's worth it or not.You can't be questioning yourself *Is this worth it or not* because it will effect your performance.
2.DO NOT rush it,don't be pushy. She's a virgin ,it WILL freak her out.You don't wanna do that.What Im trying to say to you is try to make HER start wanting YOU trying to prove to her that you're "the one".Helps you gain lots of trust.

3. First of all , don't use the word 'sex' around the type of girl you just described.Talk to her about this subject.Tell her stuff that builds comfort and may give her something to think about ,somewhere in the lines of :"Making love is the ultimate intimite relationship two people can have , marriage is irrelevant."Go for emotion , ignore pleasure. Again , she's a virgin , going for the 'emotional' aspect of sex is much more indicated than trying to explain to her how good it feels. You know what I mean ?

4.This is very important. At some point you're gonna have to start being seductive.Dont do it like you usualy would with other types of girls. Commit to it. Make her believe she's all you want and most important make her have no doubt about it.Don't show any "agresion" at all. Patience is key.

Needles to say if you wanna get laid with a virgin you're gonna have to pop the 3 words: Suck my d**k. ) Kidding bro , but seriously now , saying :"I love you" will build extreme amounts of comfort and trust with a virgin.However , don't say it TOO soon or you might freak her out.
When you say that you love her you have to at least suspect she loves you otherwise you'll get a horrible setback.

5.Do you best to make her comfortable with her body.For some stupid reason there are TONS of HOT girls that have all types of looks issues.Compliment her on her body with a sincere tone. Don't be too sexual about it , you're goal is to make her feel comfortable with her body around you not letting her know you wanna get laid.
6. This is again very very important with virgins.
Scenario : First time she's naked or almost naked with you.Take you're time , she has to feel comfortable and get used to that sitituation. *of being naked in front of / with you*
You have 2 options: Play your lucky card and try to close right there.
Play it safe and don't even suggest actual sex the first time.
I'd strongly suggest playing it safe with the type of girl you're describing.Going for lucky may result in a horrible setback which will take much more time to recover from than actually waiting a couple of more days / weeks.

I had a virgin experience once.Popped the words after about 5-6 weeks , got the "I love you too" response which created extreme comfort on her side.After about 1 week or so I got here naked for the first time , didn't go for the fck close,I didn't even mention anything about the actual penetration that night.3 days later we're at it again and she actually tells me the 4 magic words : "I wanna do it"

So there you have it , about 2 months time.


Like I said ,its a tough nut to crack but it's extremly easy since they're so manipulative. All you gotta do is have huge patience at times. Good luck bro.Hope this hepls.

Honestly unless it's a girl you really want to be with I would just look elsewhere. Gaming a virgin just to get sex seems quite unethical to me. Just game someone more experienced.

And if you do want be with her then don't be pushy and build comfort as someone mentioned. I don't even think that playing a long term game is a good idea when it comes down to serious releationships. Game in my eyes is good for getting past that first contact...gaming any longer unless you're in just for sex is plain wrong. You're not showing your true personality and such a relationship will mostlikely fail when you run out of material.

Just take your time. Some good advice above.

Let her come to you.

Escalate when there's opportunity. When she texts, it means she wants to talk to you. Don't be too eager, if you start dating her you don't want to be at her beckon call. Wait until you have a 10 minute break (at work?) and return her text with a call. That's escalating from text to phone call.

Don't worry what to say. Just play it cool, relax and enjoy the woman. You can make the telephone conversation last a long time by doing this:

Women want details. What are you doing? Where are you? Who are you with? It's OK to tell her, but make it a little interesting by not *immediately*/*easily* giving up those details. Dance around the "what are you doing question so she has to wait to find out but then tell her later "Ok baby, well I'm at work and my break is over so I'll talk with you later". You gave up the details, but not easily and when YOU wanted to, not because she made you by prying. Little things like this make you more challenging.

I can tell now when I'm approaching and getting interest women will quickly start asking what's my name, what do I do, etc and I delay or make them demand to know etc.

Think of it like this. Any time you're saying "I am..", "I do..", "I .." it sounds like you are bragging, trying to impress her or something so try not to do that too much.

Moving back to escalating.
If she texts, call. (When you can, stay busy)
If she calls, suggest a meet.
Say "I'm going to pick you up"
Her: "when?"
You: "right now! How long until you're ready?" (many women like spontenaity)
Her: Well, I have to change, blah blah blah
You: Huh? My bad, I stopped listening after you said you were changing. Mental image, nevermind. Ok. So I'll be there in 15.
Her: Wait, where are we going?
You: Somewhere fun I like to go -or- (sigh)You'll see. Be ready!

If she invites you over or sets up a date, make sure you get physical a little. Put your arm around her while *leading her*.. " lets sit over here, this is the best seat in this place. etc. grab her hand and lead her (pull/drag...not hard though unless she's a badass)

Just enjoy her and kiss and touch her and escalate physically and back off (slow down some) if she pushes away a little.

Most ltr girlfriends I had, early on we would do a lot of kissing, fondling, grinding and things that led to sex and then later we both got lazy and either I went straight for sex (which is OK and exciting with an experienced woman, especially in risque locations. quickies in a car or bathroom or amusement park or beach, but not a virgin)

You don't have to be lighting candles and making bubble baths or nothing, just spend some time kissing and touching and she will warm up.

Sex is really better, in my opinion, when you get the woman so hot and bothered she just lets go and jumps you, so be a little patient.

I know, it's hard when you're young.

Just always "man up" and go for it when she's in the zone and close. Don't worry about "game" too much once you got her isolated.

Think of Night at the Roxbury when Will ferrell and chris catan get two hotties back in their rooms and theyre still dropping pickup lines. The chick says something like "dude, you dont have to drop lines any more.. you got me back to your room already" shes basically saying, you got me here, now make a move.

Just remember "no means no" so if she says no or stop... then just cool it for a minute or two and act like its no big deal. Don't get pissed. Don't say "what's wrong?" or shit. just be like,"ok baby ill be right back and go grab a drink or something and come back and try kissing some more.

Also, in the future, don't make her your girlfriend if you havent at least kissed her. It takes you off the market for other girls. Some dudes who are more advanced dont make a woman their girlfriend until he has fucked her, but some women will want you to be their boyfriend before they fuck you. So that's OK. You sound young, just hang in there.

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Run this routine on her. Convince her that you are aq far-sighted romantic type who has a vision of love for the future. Open up her world for her. Help her see that she has been looking at the dirty frame of reality when there is a beautiful painting in the frame once she stops worrying about the presentation. Give her something to think about and help her see a new world and when you tell her those final words, that you love her, tell her that you see her as an innocent person and remember who she really is and that you don't get confused with the fake world that everybody else is so caught up in. It's chick crack.

I almost feel bad for telling you this, because I don't really want you to take advantage of a sweet girl, but inevitably if you learn to understand that routine and use it to subvert her ASD, then you have been a PUA worth leaving your impression.

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