its not my fault that i disagree with most of the posts so no offense. I just cant shooting my experience to help guys, i am expecting to be banned.
Anyways, i think your post is ridiculous.
You want to get a girl hot first?
There are many ways to do that than just rubbing her. Dirty talk, verbal techniques, physicall techniques, sexual qualification etc
now you want to grab your dick while kissing her?
Hmmm. Why not place her hand on you dick while kissing (if she is comfortable enough to be alone with you and let you suck her boobz then its no big deal)
and then after a you are highly aroused, take you dick out and start jerking off, ask her to spit (notice compliance level) then just say her,"why dont you help me with this?" and bang.
Ok whatever i said above and whatever you said indicates bad mid game.
Why dont you just take care of bj while setting sexual frame?
Just frame it as a positive thing and that how good it makes you feel, and how people take this shit so seriously blah blah blah, get her commited to the idea of bj
so that when you get into the car, its already taken care of. All you have to do is take out your dick and say,"suck"
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Khuram is wrong, while I generally don't plan what I'm doing, I've done almost exactly this several times when I've been keen for some head and can't be fucked seeing her again and it works. I never thought about putting it up as a routine, cos that's not normally how I think, but this is solid and works. Any slight variation around this will work (as your said) roughly 90% of the time.

its not my fault that i disagree with most of the posts so no offense. I just cant shooting my experience to help guys, i am expecting to be banned. YOU CAN DISAGREE ALL YOU WANT, I WELCOME DISAGREEMENT, YOU WILL GET BANNED FOR YOUR LACK OF GAME WITH FELLOW PUAS AND MODERATORS...
Anyways, i think your post is ridiculous.THAT IS YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE DONE THIS MORE TIMES THAT I CAN COUNT OF, IF IS NOT CONGRUENT WITH YOU DO NOT DO IT...
You want to get a girl hot first? I ALWAYS DO! READ THE ROUTINE
There are many ways to do that than just rubbing her. Dirty talk, verbal techniques, physicall techniques, sexual qualification etc
now you want to grab your dick while kissing her? WHILE MAKING OUT, BUT YES
Hmmm. Why not place her hand on you dick while kissing (if she is comfortable enough to be alone with you and let you suck her boobz then its no big deal)
and then after a you are highly aroused, take you dick out and start jerking off, ask her to spit (notice compliance level) then just say her,"why dont you help me with this?" and bang. YOU ARE TALKING TOO MUCH SHOWS LACK OF CONFIDENCE, NO TALKING LESS IS MORE
Ok whatever i said above and whatever you said indicates bad mid game.
Why dont you just take care of bj while setting sexual frame?
Just frame it as a positive thing and that how good it makes you feel, and how people take this shit so seriously blah blah blah, get her commited to the idea of bj
so that when you get into the car, its already taken care of. All you have to do is take out your dick and say,"suck" NO THAT IS TOO MUCH WORK AND TOO MUCH TALKING AND TO SAY SUCK IS WEAK, SORRY DUDE, TRY MY ROUTINE IT WORKS...
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Skills: excellent post friend. just like gapping the transition between verbal and kino in a set, i think another tricky gap is k-close to f-close (or bj/whatever). basically getting ur dick wet. great solution.

Khuram: i'd like to see a lay report from you sir. from the criticism that i just read from ur post, it seems like ur expecting NLP to turn ur target into a voice-activated sex robot. Now having read lots of nlp literature personally, i don't doubt the possibility of that. however thats an extremely difficult skill to hone and perfectly enough where the girl will just jump for your dick with the command "suck." But if u can, i'd really like to read an LR from u then.

khuram long gone he got kicked out from the community...

I haven't realized this before, but I seem to do something similar. Not because I was thinking it over, but mainly because I get horny if foreplay starts and I take it out lol. I noticed it gets rid of LMR. The last girl I f-closed, kept stopping me from escalating after our shirts were off and kept saying "We're not having sex" and wouldn't let me do anything. I took my dick out and put her hands on it and everything fell into place haha. Nice routine.