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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:15 pm 
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So I was rejected rather harshly by a friend of mine.

I asked her if she was interested in going to a movie with me through facebook message. She ignored me and the next day I saw her and she gave me the cold shoulder. I felt hurt.

It's important for me to remember that I don't need her approval inorder to be confident and happy with who I am. It hurts me to be rejected by one of the most beautiful women I have ever known, but I will move on.

I didn't really want to fuck her or anything, I mean I would because she is so fucking hot. I'm not sure where the problem lies. I guess it is in the way I asked. I know I shouldn't have asked through facebook message, but i thought WTF it couldn't hurt. I had no idea she would be fucking ignoring me the next day because of it. Seriously we were kind of cool and she was asking me to walk her home and shit. After I ask her to a movie on facebook she walks away from me after I call her name? I don't understand this bitch at all. I think I must have triggered some sort of defensive mechanism in her. Like the "oh shit, Magnum is a creep" and then she must have lumped me into some sort of box. It's fucking strange.

Now I have to deal with this bitch. I will see her around and I have to act like a hurt little bitch around her. I guess I could ignore her, but then things will get weird. I kind of wish I didn't even ask her to a movie now. I didn't fucking know she would completely change her attitude towards me.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:44 pm 
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This is posted in the wrong forum.

Judging by this post, you're very AFC. Any guy who gets punani on the regular wouldn't even post this. A simple brushing off the reject would do.

Keep moving forward. If she's in your social circle, don't completely ignore her or else you will come off as the socially awkward purpose. Just don't bring the rejection up. Act as if nothing has happened.

If you're in a situation where you have no idea what to do, mirror her.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:58 am 
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asked her if she was interested in going to a movie with me through facebook message. She ignored me and the next day I saw her and she gave me the cold shoulder. I felt hurt.


work on your game, i can not believe draper was compering me to you lol... But anyways rejection is part of the game, work on your inner game...Also there is more to the story that you are not putting on your post... Finally, movie, dinner, courtship dates that will put you on the boyfriend zone, which means you will be scrutinized(i guess she did not want to go farther than a friendship), and sex will be delayed... Learn game inner game, you will laugh at me but pastor joel osteen first 2 books, if you want more pua stuff get blue print... Regular game just gave david d double your dating, some 60 stuff etc.. If you come to the forum for help be blunt, your story does not sound right...If you could post the convo... here is by mr. smiley :

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:39 am 
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i can't believe what people are telling you. I really can't. How come could they say so? Lack of experience? Eh?
But don't worry my friend, i am here to help you ;-)
first of all, i dont believe in rejection. There is nothing like rejection. Its only feedback. You got an ioi? Great, you got positive feedback. You got an iod? Just negative feedback.
Who the hell says that something is wrong with you? If any one says that, he would be the biggest fool here.
And who says that you lost the girl? No, you didnt. Its still gaming time. Game is not over tell she says you ,"fuck off" and in some cases even if she says that, game is not over.
Are you going to be shaken by behaviour and turn from a pua to into a pussy?
Who knows her behaviour is a shit test? She made the things awkward, situation seems to be out of control. And who knows she wants to see how you handle it? Do you get shaken and hurt or are you strong enough to stay firm showing her that you are not going to get affected by her shit? Think about it. No my dear, dont get affected, dont get hurt, it would make you weak and she is observing your behaviour, you want to sub communicate weakness? No, no, no. You are not weak, you just let things effect you, you didnt think about all these things that i am telling you right now. Convey the alpha image, no matter even if you are crushed inside. And dont worry about the negative feelings that you are having now, its just an emotional state, it has got no reality, emotions come and go, never let a shitty emotion shake you.
Now what to do regarding outergame?
Start by your behaviour, dont show her that you are effected by her. Have fun with your friends right in front of her eyes, show the bitch that if she is a bitch, then you are an Alpha. Ignore her, talk to everyone but ignore her (she may be thinking that you would crawl back begging, do the opposite and fuck her mind) if she talks to you, talk to her but dont show any interest in the conversation. Make her chase you (take away at a high emotional point), introduce jealousy and when she starts to chase you (text you, calls you, tries to talk to you) dont accept her immediately, make the bitch chase you a bit(you didnt lose the game, just situation got out of hand and you got to bring the game back to the normal stage). Then after sometime, start to show interest in talking to her and build comfort, after that break comfort and start building attraction, then drill her hard in qualification and game as normal.
Inshort you pass her shit test or just shit by behaving like an alpha and when she starts to feel attraction, you make her chase you (shaping her behaviour for the future) and then you come back to normal game
And dont care what some guys say here, most of them are virgins or guys who got a gf by luck.
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Game is not over tell she says you ,"fuck off" and in some cases even if she says that, game is not over.
Dangerously close to rape isn't it?

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Game is not over tell she says you ,"fuck off" and in some cases even if she says that, game is not over.
Dangerously close to rape isn't it?
no. You missed the whole point. I am not saying to go and rape her. If you carefully read what i wrote, i at no point said to move forward. I said NOT TO BACKOFF TURNING INTO A HURT BETA MALE AND CALIBRATE YOUR GAME CALIBRATING THE SITUATION


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Are you going to be shaken by behaviour and turn from a pua to into a pussy?
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first of all, i dont believe in rejection. There is nothing like rejection. Its only feedback. You got an ioi? Great, you got positive feedback. You got an iod? Just negative feedback.
I know khuram that you're trying to help this guy, which I very much appreciate, but I don't think that this kind of talk will realy help a heartbroken emotional guy.

Based upon your reaction, magnum45, I see that you can't handle rejection well. And that's ok, you shouldn't be ashamed of it, many people, me included, have often hard times dealing rejection. But it's not something you cherish.

Think about what caused you to feel so hurt by this rejection. F.e.: is it because you need approval from people? Did you had parents who didn't realy care about you? Why? ...?

Think about what realy makes you happy. When this woman will give you her approval? Wrong! Think again. That might make you happy on the short run, but on the long run, it doesn't change anything.

What fundamentaly things do you want to see changed in order to make you happy? Women? Wrong! Think again.

Work to what you realy want to change, want to be, what makes you innerly happy.

Then you will not need her approval. Women will beg for yours.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:05 pm 
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You guys are awesome. Yeah I got a little crazy. It happens a lot when I start to think about the girl. I start thinking, wow this girl is beautiful and she meets my standards physically, and if we get a long then we could have something special. I know I sound like an AFC but I'm not frustrated because of a lack of sex. I'm frustrated because of a lack of understanding. I really just want this girl to be a friend so I can hang out with her. Of course it feels great to know I could have her sexually. But I don't see the point. I would gain more from her if I keep her in the friend zone because she speaks spanish (i need to practice), she has a ranch, three sisters and a big jeep to go play off-road. I would much rather keep her around for a long time than risk a relationship with a girl 8 years younger than me.

I feel the presence of women who like me. They throw themselves at me. I think the reason why is because I do not want them. Because they don't fit my expectations or my ideals. So I notice they spend a lot of time with me. They are cute, but something is missing. So I try to refrain from being sexually aggressive towards them. Instead I keep them as a friend, but it feels great knowing they want to be around me. I also feel that they would be willing to sleep with me. But I don't feel comfortable sleeping with them because I'm concerned about expectations and jealousy factors.

I'm often tempted by women that I could fuck but I never make the move because they don't meet my standards physcially. Sometimes I think about the movie Van Wilder and how the antagonist fucks his nerdy friend after his girlfriend leaves him. Well a couple of girls I am talking about are exactly like the friend - they adore me but are really strange and quirky. I guess I have a vision of what I want and they don't fit the bill.

I'm trying to do something different with my life, but maybe I'm a hopeless idealist. I'm trying to become strong enough to be okay with women friends that don't want to sleep with me. So far it's very difficult. I have spent tremendous amounts of time with girls that are beautiful, smart, and educated. All the while, I fall in love with them knowing they don't want me and they won't allow me to touch them.

In the end I think it is better to stay stronger. I realize a women's preference to physically reject us is hurtful, even in the smallest way, to everyone, but it's important to stay positive and respectful. I don't think it is healthy to push woman away because they don't want to sleep with you. I think it is more healthy for me to put them in my friends zone. Maybe I should develop a friend zone for the beautiful women as well as the quirky, not so hot ones.

I'm tired of sleeping with women. It takes energy, work, commitment, and patience. If I must work hard at something I want it to last longer than one night or even three months. I want it to last a lifetime. Maybe that is too much pressure, but I want someone to help me live my life and not distract me from my purposes. Sleeping with a girl doesn't give me a what I want. It just gives me pleasure and power. But true respect comes from the intellectual aspects as well and the physical aspects of a relationship.

For me, I'm trying to bridge the gap between both aspects. But I'm not sure when to put a girl in the friend zone or how long she should stay in the friend zone. Maybe I am afraid to become a dedicated game master of PUA in order to fuck like crazy. But I find more satisfaction from long-term relationships. I'm not saying PUA's can't have long-term relationships. I am saying that sex hasn't lead me to a lasting relationship yet so I'm thinking there is something more. I enjoy my girlfriends that are only friends even though it sucks when they brush my hand off their shoulder sometimes. I'm still around for them and they are around for me - but not on a physical level. Why do I feel so terrible about that? Is there anything I can to do reframe myself.

I've been thinking about this subject for a long time. I'm convincing myself that it is possible to have female friends that don't want to sleep with me, and still be content with that. I'm struggling as an AFC out of principle.

That being said, it has been a couple of days since the girl ignored me. And I don't feel strongly about it anymore. I'm slightly concerned about my feelings towards her the next time I see her. I definitely know my thoughts are creating my emotions and it has nothing to do with her, so she really isn't a bitch. It is just that I have a lot of issues from my past that are coming up. I'm not sure exactly how to deal with them.

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So I was rejected rather harshly by a friend of mine.

I asked her if she was interested in going to a movie with me through facebook message. She ignored me and the next day I saw her and she gave me the cold shoulder. I felt hurt.

It's important for me to remember that I don't need her approval inorder to be confident and happy with who I am. It hurts me to be rejected by one of the most beautiful women I have ever known, but I will move on.

I didn't really want to fuck her or anything, I mean I would because she is so fucking hot. I'm not sure where the problem lies. I guess it is in the way I asked. I know I shouldn't have asked through facebook message, but i thought WTF it couldn't hurt. I had no idea she would be fucking ignoring me the next day because of it. Seriously we were kind of cool and she was asking me to walk her home and shit. After I ask her to a movie on facebook she walks away from me after I call her name? I don't understand this bitch at all. I think I must have triggered some sort of defensive mechanism in her. Like the "oh shit, Magnum is a creep" and then she must have lumped me into some sort of box. It's fucking strange.

Now I have to deal with this bitch. I will see her around and I have to act like a hurt little bitch around her. I guess I could ignore her, but then things will get weird. I kind of wish I didn't even ask her to a movie now. I didn't fucking know she would completely change her attitude towards me.
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Manage your perceptions:

From the post above, you are:

1. Unfavorable result.
2. Negative emotions.
3. Analysis(Usually just pop shot perceptions) of unfavorable result.
4. Slow down or STOP initial strategy.


Instead, get to this as soon as possible:

1. Negative result.
2. Analysis of negative result.
3. Emotions (Yes, I have emotions too)
4. Alternate Strategy.


So it should have gone more like this:

1. She ignores you.
2. FB 'ask outs' are lame. Something's up her ass. She's got diarrhea, has her period, doesn't like movies, etc . . . (She's showing you a reaction BECAUSE she likes you. A girl who doesn't care doesn't react at all. A girl who DISLIKES you will actually take pity on you and act EVEN NICER. She's being a dope because she doesn't know what to do in this situation nor does she know how to behave when somebody is genuinely nice to her and shows her some attention.
3. How do you feel about this? (Shouldn't we address some issues here?)
4. Address her in PERSON:

"Hey, so you don't like movies. . . How about line dancing instead? Comedy show? OK . . . how about a musical? Phantom of the Opera is here . . . in your mind . . ." (Sing it) Turn to the next girl . . ."You like movies right? Everybody likes movies . . . jeeze . . . LOL . . ."

Then you keep pouring it on as if she's a whiny little girl who's mad because her daddy didn't buy her the 53rd Barbie Doll. You're not punishing her . . . but you are highlighting her immaturity. Then you hang out with others in front of her and chat with others like ADULTS. As SOON as she matures up a bit, you bring her right into the conversation. She continues to act like a kid and you continue to treat her like one.

Khurham has the right idea but I'd prefer a more 'positive strategy'.

Kobe, Your attempts to brush it off and simply ignore reality is what forces you to act like a little kid, cutting immature jokes. Reality is really not so bad.

Magnum, you don't 'try' to be positive by rallying yourself. You 'become' positive by being more thoughtful of the situation and realizing that the reality of the situation is 'beyond' only your emotional reactions. What just happened is simply what comes naturally to a lot of girls. It's your job to DEAL with the situation, not DEAL with your emotions.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:57 am 
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As I said your game needs improving, your game should be in a way were a girl you ALREADY KNOW, should not be rejecting you specially the way this one did, the part of you asking out through Facebook, was very weak, and she instead of saying no, wanted to save face and she ignore you and keeps ignoring you( i do this to girls that i am not interested in instead of saying no i do not respond back to the text as hint hint), she is not interested, with that being said, punish her bad behavior, by ignoring her or being neutral...do not chase! All this mombo jumbo theory!!!! work on your game...When you ask girls dinner/movie (the girl is thinking in her head uhmm he likes me and wants to pursue me, do i see a future with this guy, do i want to date him and pursue him.. not good), next time hey me and my friends are going to club xyz, that shit is going to be jumping dj z will be there, me and my friends are going to met there, come out! in a way that if she does not show up you are there anyways.. Finally, if she is a friend for a while is complicated to go backwards into seduction, most of my female friend are girls that i already had and then became friends..."friend zone" will kill you 4 ever, super hard to get out of there...

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