hi everyone, I lurk around the forum for a little while but didnt post any thing yet, so i finally get to move something out. This is my first try and i dont know if i do right or wrong. If you read this, dont mind putting any comment and correction that you might think it suitable. I really appreciate that. (sorry i have asked this question in one of Slywalker's thread, but it seems do not enough, so i decide to post it here, apology about that).

I recently get interested in a chick in my Uni class, thing is even better when we are in the same group. The truth is despite i have much interest in her, i didnt show any of it in my class, and she probably doesnt know it as well. One night, i started sending her emails.
First email: My whole intention is that i could get closer to her in the day time, by starting introduce myself, ticking, kicking random things a little bit then go for the main reason. After that, she replied: I just dont know what to do, she probably gave me shit test, but im not so sure soi replied her with an email: I was trying to do some C&F stuff, however i still feel like i was really DLV myself since that email. However, im trying to be a little nice here, but she didnt reply. So i push myself a little bit and send an email:
and it actually gain a reply from her: After the whole email things, i got really pissed off and start swinging without even thinking: She replied: I was literally furious and as trying to calm down i sent her: I dont know what i was sending have any effect, but I want everyone to have a little bit of seeing it and if possible telling me what did i do wrong and there are any way to recover the whole situation.

1: do not send emails to strangers.
2: she probably does have a boyfriend and she couldn't be more clear she wasn't interested. Quit believing in the concept of shittests. It will help you a great deal.
3: don't be a stalker nor a creep. (you were both)
4: I haven't read any C/F.
5: leave her alone.
6 (for extra clearance because 5 was very clear): no you cannot recover and yes meeting her again (which you will have to) will be extremely awkward. It's best to say you're sorry for your behaviour and then leave her alone.


This was below poor level. It's a disgrace to gaming.




(PS: sorry for being so harsh but in this case you needed a good punch in the face to wake you up)

... You literally punched in my face for being a douchebag. Its quite hurt and i hate it!

I know im in the deep shit now, when we meet its undoubtedly an awkward situation. If you were me, what would you do (or how can you write an apology email)?

That is not gaming. That is weird, freaky AFC behaviour of a low kind..

Any other advice beside from flaming my ass off?

Put less effort into trying to create a connection out of nowhere.. you don't want to come across to a girl like you have nothing better do with your time than to email her.. especially when she hasn't showed a trace of interest in previous emails..

There are millions and millions of women out there.. try game them all and never spend that much time going nowhere but downhill with one girl.

A few tiny tips I could be bothered writing :
By saying that you've just planted in her head that the fact you are emailing her IS inappropriate.. don't show any doubt in the things you say or speak lowly of yourself

Short and to the point is a better alternative and try to learn when to bail out - i.e after she kindly said she had a boyfriend and especially after the taking photos of her thing..

Yeah... You definitely started off on a bad not. Next time just be more straight forward and to the point don't dilly dally around what you're trying to accomplish. The whole, Oh I thought I would take your picture around campus is REALLY creepy after she had already said no. That was like 10 steps in the wrong direction.




Did you even talk to her before sending her the random e-mails?

And don't EVER tell a girl you were thinking of her all night when you barely know her... that leaves you vulnerable and leaves her feeling uncomfortable...

yeah sorry mate you fucked that up from the get go, but dont worry you live and learn, a few tips to learn from this experience.

1. BEMORE CONFIDENT! first email could have been short and sweet like "hey its daniel from art class, wanted to get to know you better, you free to hang out some time"

2. if she mentioned the boyfriend thing after that id have just said "whooah i wasnt asking you on a date, you just seemed like you might be fun to chill with"

after that if its still a no i wouldnt have bothered.

re read it yourself, you came across as quite needy,creepy (in the sense you wouldnt take no for a answer) and no self confidence.
im also sorry for being harsh, but use it as a learning experience

oh yeah- and you have defo lost this one, there is absolutely no way back from that now. i even think a email apologising and saying you would leave her alone would be creepy.

Thank you for be more constructive.

This whole experience is pretty hurtful to me, and I hate that.

Tomorrow, I will see her again, as Giz said, even saying an apology would be creepy then I dont know what to do now. Just keep silence and act normally or apologies her honestly?

Thank you again: P-style, MH, Maccas and Gizmo.

I would start by not letting it bother you. Yes you made a mistake, but you wouldn't be learning from it if it didn't happen. Failure is always going to happen no matter what. This is just one of those instances. Don't appologize. I would just avoid her and talk to other girls and act as if you don't even notice her. If she sees you interacting with other girls and having fun with them, she MAY realize that you're just a normal guy and may wonder why they are having so much fun.

But in the meantime, just don't bother talking to her.

Oh lord. Yeah, what you just did...never EVER do that again.

1. Don't email someone you've never talked to and tell them you've been thinking about them all night. How exactly did you get her email anyways?
2. Don't write off a no as a shit test everytime. Sometimes people really do have other commitments and you have to accept it at face value.
3. Don't apologize so damn much. It makes you look weak.
4. Never tell a stranger you want to walk around and take pictures of them to fondly look back at when you're old, I don't know why you would even think thats an option.



You need a lot of work man. This is a strategy I used when I started out. Imagine the coolest person you know, who gets the most ass. When you're talking to a girl, try to say something he would. It gets you in the right mindset. We've all had moments where we creeped out a girl, you're not alone. Just, please, learn some of these gaming concepts more in-depth so you know when to use them.


When you see her, just be like "Hey, I was really hammered and in retrospect, being creepy as shit. I tried covering it up when I was sober with the whole photography thing but that probably made me look even worse. My bad, I crossed the line and I learned that I probably shouldn't be anywhere near a computer when I'm drunk".

hmmm after thinking for a little bit im 50/50 on something and maybe others can say what they think.

im now thinking that in class you're going to be feeling awkward, and there is every chance she will as well and you will be avoiding each other in a small space.

you could try saying sorry to her in person. but all i would suggest if yo take this course of action is KEEP IT SHORT AND BE CONFIDENT! if you can say "dont want you feeling awkward in class so sorry about those emails the other day, dont worry il leave you alone" it might lift some of the negative energy in the room.

but im 50/50 to that. anyone want to chip in?

I would agree that appologizing and keeping it SHORT and SWEET is the way to go. Plan out a very short apology similar to what gizmo suggested and leave it at that. She's not going to want to be buddy buddy with you after that because even though you may have apologized, that still doesn't take back what was said in the first place.


SHORT and TO THE POINT is the KEY!!!