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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:41 pm 
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Been some talk of LMR (Last minute resistance) in the chat lately and I figure I would share my .02 cents on the matter.

I hardly ever get LMR anymore... its pretty damn rare. If your constantly getting LMR from a chick then your not expressing your sexuality.

LMR is not really determined by your "end game" skills. LMR is determined by how well your expressed your sexuality and how well you was aligned with your intent.

Think of it this way: A guy approaches a woman indirectly and interacts with her as a friend would to another friend. He maks some excuse to get her back to his place and when he tries to get his dick wet she puts up resistance.

On the other hand, a guy approaches her directly, interacts to her like a man to a woman, is comfortable expressing his sexuality and is very much align with his intent, she is going to know what he is all about. Now when she agress to go back to his place, she is going to know whats up and is agreeing with it even if its only subconscious.

So, the big solution to not getting LMR? Being sexual and sexually escalating! If your not sure how to do that, read the link in my sig called "Guide to Sexual Escalation"

So what do you do if you have her back to her place and she is giving you LMR?

What you DON'T want to do is a freeze out. If your not sure what that is, a freeze out is where you bascially ignore her and take away all of the validation she was getting before. While this can work its often hit or miss and often times the chick will think your a chode. Also, sometimes she will have sex with you just to not hurt your feelings when you sue a freeze out. Do you want a pitty fuck? Didn't think so...

So what should you do?

Keep a playful attitude and start sexually teasing her.

Smell her neck
Kiss her all over
Pull her hair
Bite her neck
Whisper dirty stuff in her ear (This one works really well)

Do them all. The more turned on she gets, the more she will want to fuck you.

If shes letting you tease the shit outta her but still not letting you get it in you can use a trick I call "Pitching a Tent."

This is a simple trick that involves you pulling the blankets over top of both of you and doing s small role play.

"Wow, this is a pretty awesome tent. Looks like we picked such a beautiful place to go camping, way out here.. in the middle of no where!"

Then go back to teasing her under the covers. As silly as it sounds, it also works super well. The sillyness of it all, combined with her only being able to focus on you with the covers blocking out all outside stimuli, takes her out of logic mode and into her emotional mode where she will feel free to do what she wants... which is you!

Once you start having sexx you can pull the blankets down of course.

If that still doesn't work just turn and say to her, "It seems like your not comfortable going all the way. Its fine and I understand. We'll just continue to have fun fooling around. Just say stop if you get uncomfortable." Make sure to say it with a smile and don't be mad. If your mad she will sense it and not be comfortable. But, if your genuine when you say this, she will start to feel extremely relaxed and comfortable.

Go back to teasing her and if shes still enjoying herself, start taking off the rest of her clothes and escalate to sex.

Don't ask if she wants to because she will know to just say stop if shes not comfortable.

Being open with her and letting her know she can be relaxed and comfortable around you will make her more open to having sex.

After all that, more than likely you will be having yourself some sex with a pretty lady but if not be understanding. After all, its just sex and besides, maybe the next time she will give it up. ;)

Have fun guys!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:47 pm 
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I'm not so sure about getting her more aroused will cause her to have sex with you. I would rather do a freeze out instead of that.

Anyways, why not just ignore the LMR, and replace it with sexual tension?

Her: Wait. We're moving too fast.
You: *Stares into her eyes*
Her: *Starts escalating on you*

I know Chief did something very similar to this, and it worked nicely.


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I'm not so sure about getting her more aroused will cause her to have sex with you. I would rather do a freeze out instead of that.

Anyways, why not just ignore the LMR, and replace it with sexual tension?

Her: Wait. We're moving too fast.
You: *Stares into her eyes*
Her: Starts escalating on you.

I know Chief did something very similar to this, and it worked nicely.
The more aroused she is, the more she will want a release. The way for her to get that release is to have sex with you.

The tech Chief uses is great but again, its sometimes hit or miss.

By all means, use it and if it doesn't work, continue on with with what I suggested in the rest of my guide.

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I'm not so sure about getting her more aroused will cause her to have sex with you. I would rather do a freeze out instead of that.

Anyways, why not just ignore the LMR, and replace it with sexual tension?

Her: Wait. We're moving too fast.
You: *Stares into her eyes*
Her: Starts escalating on you.

I know Chief did something very similar to this, and it worked nicely.
The more aroused she is, the more she will want a release. The way for her to get that release is to have sex with you.

The tech Chief uses is great but again, its sometimes hit or miss.

By all means, use it and if it doesn't work, continue on with with what I suggested in the rest of my guide.
I heard that was a myth. She'll just chew up the attention you're giving her.

This is what I think. I could be wrong, so feel free to drop your 2 cents...

Women are not like men. They can say no even if they are very aroused. We get blue balls, they don't.


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My experience disagrees with it being a myth. Best thing to do is to try it for yourself and see how it works out for you personally.

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I agree with Warped Mindless on this one whole heartily, specifically with your intention from the beginning is so crucial.
This let's her know what's going on, and 9/10 she will go with the flow.

Now, in the rare occasions that you do get LMR, in my personal opinion, I always found that you put the blame on her for you being horny.

Her: Stop
You: You stop being sexy

anything she throws at you, blame her for it. This is gold. In absolute RARE occasion that she is just not feeling out, back out. A man knows when to call it quits, and do it in a respectful tone.

You: It's unfortunate that we couldn't release our sexual desires on one another, but I understand "whatever reason she gives you", and respect your decision.

simple and done, remember you can't make sex the priority, even though it is, she is still a human being, and if you respect her decisions as a human being, than it's all good. Most of the time this will ensue to a guaranteed slam the next time


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dis-agree with this concept warped, just had this happen, used the exact same logic as you, myself, it was counter productive, setting up challenge and backing off from her ended up getting me the lay in the end,

here are some points,
directly stated sexual interest in the girl that gave me LMR,
physically comfort level/compliance very high (kissing no prob)
was sexting on a regular basis with her

gets to my house all talk no action, she was nervous as shit, she knew sex was probably on my mind, did all of the above

smelled neck, told her she smelled nice,
pulled bottom of the hair by scruff of neck,
kissed her,
did not bite her neck,
sexually framed before i escalated into cuddling,

was somewhat aggressive, and it caused more resistance, and I actually blame this on the boner I had, she even noticed it, and began to torture me as a result, rubbing her ass into it, then caressing it with her forearm, only to 2 seconds later dig her elbow into my nuts and call me a perv, she then asked if I wanted a handjob, when I said, a handjob would be nice (in a manner that tried to sound not too excited or enthused) she then said, well too bad no.

2nd time I got her over, started setting up the frame of a challenge, I was not going to sleep with her, all I wanted was her company etc. got the lay no LMR.


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dis-agree with this concept warped, just had this happen, used the exact same logic as you, myself, it was counter productive, setting up challenge and backing off from her ended up getting me the lay in the end,

here are some points,
directly stated sexual interest in the girl that gave me LMR,
physically comfort level/compliance very high (kissing no prob)
was sexting on a regular basis with her

gets to my house all talk no action, she was nervous as shit, she knew sex was probably on my mind, did all of the above

smelled neck, told her she smelled nice,
pulled bottom of the hair by scruff of neck,
kissed her,
did not bite her neck,
sexually framed before i escalated into cuddling,

was somewhat aggressive, and it caused more resistance, and I actually blame this on the boner I had, she even noticed it, and began to torture me as a result, rubbing her ass into it, then caressing it with her forearm, only to 2 seconds later dig her elbow into my nuts and call me a perv, she then asked if I wanted a handjob, when I said, a handjob would be nice (in a manner that tried to sound not too excited or enthused) she then said, well too bad no.

2nd time I got her over, started setting up the frame of a challenge, I was not going to sleep with her, all I wanted was her company etc. got the lay no LMR.
First, congrats on the lay. :)

A few things tho, you said you escalated into cuddling? Does that mean you was trying to cuddle before the sex? If so don't do that. Could be a factor in you not getting any the first time.

Also, you said being sexually aggressive made her give you more resistance but that she also started rubbing her ass into your boner...I wouldn't call that resistance. You said she asked you if you wanted a hand job. If they have to ask it means your probably not escalating fats enough and that your not leading. Her asking is putting the role of leading onto her which is not her responsibility.

When she first started to rub her ass into you thats when you should have started to lead. Pull it out, take her clothes off, flip her over...ect...

Also, after what happened the first time, you could have done pretty much anything and still have gotten the lay the second time.

I'm not criticizing you, merely pointing out some stuff in which I feel can help you out for the next time. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:54 am 
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2nd time I got her over, started setting up the frame of a challenge, I was not going to sleep with her, all I wanted was her company etc. got the lay no LMR
This is to my opinion a good strategy. Sexual tension is necessairy but I think some are overdoing it too much. If you're a confident, cool guy, not easy to get, bit mysterious, can give good eye contact, then most girls will be already turned on by your mere pressence.

As what I red from pumpington's story, he was overdoing it to a sense that it was no normal behaviour anymore. When he pulled himself together, started acting normal and thought "I don't need this shit anymore I am just going to enjoy my time", she started crawling back.

Conclusion: he needed sex badly and wanted to do all the work => few results, LMR.
He didn't need it anymore and let HER then do the work => hot sex


I am exaggerating a bit ofcourse to make a point. Like I said, sexual tension is necessairy and ofcourse there should be an escalation but I think I made my point: act normaly and don't overdo it. Every extreme phenomena in the world will ask for resistance.

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