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What do you want from her?

What level of commitment are you after?

Do you just want to lay her?

Do you want to get rid of her?

There are a lot of varibles. If I know your exact intentions then I may be able to give more specific advice......

But in general. She Likes you ....and if you want her.......

- Escalate Sexual tention
- Kino at every chance

Don't worry bout anything....! Just do it. Wipe her face like she a bit of food on it. Brush her hair back.... Like your already in bed with her.
I have this guy SPAM that consistantly creates frames (even on FB shamelessly).
He does it all the time, talks about me and him sexually.
He constantly keeps the conversation on it...
I'm just happy that someone else can take control of the direction of the convo, its about me having fun and I'm no longer carrying the convo....I'm just responding like a superstar(I feel like the centre of his world)
That is, he controls it......It's fun....It's is so powerful....it weakens barriers....I am too powerful for his framing ......BUT IT WORKS .......If you do it correctly, eventually she will be so used to the touch and sexual images your creating it will seem only the 'right' and 'natural' thing to do. . . . . Frame and kino
SunnyHolly,

Your feedback is informative, and very productive at the same time hhahah thanks. I already know about KINO ESCALATION and generating attraction and all that I own the MYSTERY METHOD, and THE GAME. I have no trouble in those areas, this woman is very different than others. I can't seem to understand her actions. I would love to do all those things you have mentioned but I have to be with her to do those things. We only see each other in school and she never sits near me or next to me? so that's why I' am really confused on her actions. REALLY WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT FROM ME? I mean I've causally asked you to hang out with me but you keep telling me that you're too busy......so then I understand that, then why don't you just leave me the hell alone? And then she keeps telling me that she cares about me so much? And that I'm jumping to conclusions on why she doesn't wanna hang out with me? whenever I'm near her she's very robotic she never looks at me or makes any kind of eye contact? so that literally tells me she's not into me. I mean you can tell if a girl is in to you or not? I don't know maybe she's going through a rough phase in her life? I don't want to get laid with this girl, because we have a lot things in common I would rather have her as my girlfriend and enjoy the sex afterwords. I don't know how to get her to open up to me? She keeps telling me that she's a very private person and that's why she doesn't hang out or share anything personal with anyone besides her family. So how am I suppose to find out how she feels about me? I feel like I should just ask her what she really wants from this friendship? I'm a very confident man I have no trouble talking to women, and I can do without her. I don't want this situation to interfere with my college. I've also told her many times that hey if you ever feel like talking or sharing anything I'm always here to listen!!!! But she has never complied with that? Because she keeps telling me that she's a very private person. I think she may have some anxiety issues or disorders when she hangs out with anyone besides her family because she's not comfortable with them. Okay that's understandable if you're not comfortable around me then please stop telling me that you care about me A LOT!!!! Yesterday was my birthday and she texted me very early in the morning wishing me a happy birthday and also bought a gift. But she has NO TIME FOR ME? hhhahah really WTF? Now what do you have to say about this? I really want to move on from this, but every time I try to she keeps doing things that remind me that may be interested in me more than a friend


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What do you want from her?

What level of commitment are you after?

Do you just want to lay her?

Do you want to get rid of her?

There are a lot of varibles. If I know your exact intentions then I may be able to give more specific advice......

But in general. She Likes you ....and if you want her.......

- Escalate Sexual tention
- Kino at every chance

Don't worry bout anything....! Just do it. Wipe her face like she a bit of food on it. Brush her hair back.... Like your already in bed with her.
I have this guy SPAM that consistantly creates frames (even on FB shamelessly).
He does it all the time, talks about me and him sexually.
He constantly keeps the conversation on it...
I'm just happy that someone else can take control of the direction of the convo, its about me having fun and I'm no longer carrying the convo....I'm just responding like a superstar(I feel like the centre of his world)
That is, he controls it......It's fun....It's is so powerful....it weakens barriers....I am too powerful for his framing ......BUT IT WORKS .......If you do it correctly, eventually she will be so used to the touch and sexual images your creating it will seem only the 'right' and 'natural' thing to do. . . . . Frame and kino
SunnyHolly,

Your feedback is informative, and very productive at the same time hhahah thanks. I already know about KINO ESCALATION and generating attraction and all that I own the MYSTERY METHOD, and THE GAME. I have no trouble in those areas, this woman is very different than others. I can't seem to understand her actions. I would love to do all those things you have mentioned but I have to be with her to do those things. We only see each other in school and she never sits near me or next to me? so that's why I' am really confused on her actions. REALLY WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT FROM ME? I mean I've causally asked you to hang out with me but you keep telling me that you're too busy......so then I understand that, then why don't you just leave me the hell alone? And then she keeps telling me that she cares about me so much? And that I'm jumping to conclusions on why she doesn't wanna hang out with me? whenever I'm near her she's very robotic she never looks at me or makes any kind of eye contact? so that literally tells me she's not into me. I mean you can tell if a girl is in to you or not? I don't know maybe she's going through a rough phase in her life? I don't want to get laid with this girl, because we have a lot things in common I would rather have her as my girlfriend and enjoy the sex afterwords. I don't know how to get her to open up to me? She keeps telling me that she's a very private person and that's why she doesn't hang out or share anything personal with anyone besides her family. So how am I suppose to find out how she feels about me? I feel like I should just ask her what she really wants from this friendship? I'm a very confident man I have no trouble talking to women, and I can do without her. I don't want this situation to interfere with my college. I've also told her many times that hey if you ever feel like talking or sharing anything I'm always here to listen!!!! But she has never complied with that? Because she keeps telling me that she's a very private person. I think she may have some anxiety issues or disorders when she hangs out with anyone besides her family because she's not comfortable with them. Okay that's understandable if you're not comfortable around me then please stop telling me that you care about me A LOT!!!! Yesterday was my birthday and she texted me very early in the morning wishing me a happy birthday and also bought a gift. But she has NO TIME FOR ME? hhhahah really WTF? Now what do you have to say about this? I really want to move on from this, but every time I try to she keeps doing things that remind me that may be interested in me more than a friend
follow my advice, get ready for shit tests of plenty, she might cry to get your attention once your frame of comfort has passed and she flakes, ignore it, she might tell you she loves you, ignore it, get ready for a flaky invite to something from her ignore it, she is going to try to do plenty of things to get an emotional reaction from you, be ready and conciously notice what she is doing, do not react,

the frame is, no that is ok, I allready told you how i feel and what i want, take it or leave it, it does not bother me, it does not overly excite me, I want you, but I don't need you, nice to see you, see you later, everything you do, is just the truth, not an expectation, but an expression, no need for anything to happen, but it is out there how you feel and what you want


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listen, this sounds like something I have familiarized myself with, now tell me if this fits the description,

she is between the ages of 16-24?

she talks to alot of guys/has alot of male friends?

she was the first to escalate the situation, by either touching you, or declaring some sort of interest (ie. giving you a compliment or saying something nice about you) / she is a flirty girl?

when ever faced with some sort of issue that could cause you to stop paying attention to her, she will deny what she has done, to cause this issue to arise?

if the answer is yes to all of the above questions, it is quite possible, you are dealing with a female player!!

she will keep hitting you up, contacting you, she will show some interest and attempt to get you to reciprocate/buy into her frame of flirting or sexting, next thing, if you get direct with her, and the answer is no, she will do everything she can to not lose your interest, she will come up with excuses, she will appologise, she will try to guage what sort of emotional effect she has on you, by saying things like

I like you alot, but blah blah blah excuse for not hanging out,

sorry, please i dont want you to be upset with me etc.

these are the steps you can take to have a chance with this ATTENTION VAMPIRE,

step 1) get direct, tell her in an extremely direct, honest, blunt way, what you want/expect from her and how you feel

step 2) give her a giant burst of comfort, after step 1, you must stop showing interest/kissing her ass, the theme of TODAYS SHOW CHILDREN, is be normal, make her comfortable

step 3) after creating as much comfort as you can during that interaction, give her a day, to hang out, if the comfort was really good, she will agree, try to make it that day, while she is in that state, if later her state of comfort breaks, better chance of her flaking

step 4) if she flakes, but trys to keep contact, you are going to play the indifference card, no more flirting/showing interest, everything is breif, non reactive, polite, but not nice, she has no effect on you, when she starts showing interest in what you are doing/what you have been up to lately, take that time, to say,

I have just been in and out lately, I would love to see you some time, but not today, anyways, I have to go, ttyl

do not contact her, let her contact you, do not invite her out, let her invite you out, if it is one of these

(hey im going to do x on xyz-day, but I might not be able to, would you like to come)

then you are doing something elese

in all of your texting interactions the one thing you want to have in your head, is that her opinion of you, holds no weight, hold that frame when you are presenting indifference, what she thinks of you, absolutely does not matter, make sure your texts reflect this without being rude,

IN SHORT, MOVE ON FROM THIS ATTENTION VAMPIRE, she just wants orbiters on her roster that she can show to her friends, be direct, state what you want, if she does not provide, she is not worth your time
Pumpington,

WOW for a minute I thought that you actually knew this girl? She has done everything to me that you have mentioned and she's 24 years old. I still can't believe this? Frankly I was thinking the same thing that okay "SHE LIKES ME BUT SHE HAS NO TIME TO HANG OUT WITH ME BUT THEN SHE ALSO TELLS ME THAT SHE CARES ABOUT ME A LOT WHEN I PUT HER ON THE SPOT FOR NOT HANGING OUT WITH ME"? Really WTF? The problem is I've asked her twice casually to hang out with me or have lunch or something but she has never complied with that and have always told me that she gotta run or she's busy and stuff like that. I really don't like this girl a lot that's why I'm trying to move on from this situation, but every time I try to do she does something nice which reminds me that may be interested in me more than a friend? She also has more male friends, because she does not get along with a lot of women. I don't want to be her friend anymore I'm trying to connect with her physically but that's not happening because we are never in a private location. I only see her in college. You asked me to be direct with her? What exactly should I say to her? Because she has always given me the IM TOO BUSY CARD......BTW your post was amazing thanks a lot


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What do you want from her?

What level of commitment are you after?

Do you just want to lay her?

Do you want to get rid of her?

There are a lot of varibles. If I know your exact intentions then I may be able to give more specific advice......

But in general. She Likes you ....and if you want her.......

- Escalate Sexual tention
- Kino at every chance

Don't worry bout anything....! Just do it. Wipe her face like she a bit of food on it. Brush her hair back.... Like your already in bed with her.
I have this guy SPAM that consistantly creates frames (even on FB shamelessly).
He does it all the time, talks about me and him sexually.
He constantly keeps the conversation on it...
I'm just happy that someone else can take control of the direction of the convo, its about me having fun and I'm no longer carrying the convo....I'm just responding like a superstar(I feel like the centre of his world)
That is, he controls it......It's fun....It's is so powerful....it weakens barriers....I am too powerful for his framing ......BUT IT WORKS .......If you do it correctly, eventually she will be so used to the touch and sexual images your creating it will seem only the 'right' and 'natural' thing to do. . . . . Frame and kino
SunnyHolly,

Your feedback is informative, and very productive at the same time hhahah thanks. I already know about KINO ESCALATION and generating attraction and all that I own the MYSTERY METHOD, and THE GAME. I have no trouble in those areas, this woman is very different than others. I can't seem to understand her actions. I would love to do all those things you have mentioned but I have to be with her to do those things. We only see each other in school and she never sits near me or next to me? so that's why I' am really confused on her actions. REALLY WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT FROM ME? I mean I've causally asked you to hang out with me but you keep telling me that you're too busy......so then I understand that, then why don't you just leave me the hell alone? And then she keeps telling me that she cares about me so much? And that I'm jumping to conclusions on why she doesn't wanna hang out with me? whenever I'm near her she's very robotic she never looks at me or makes any kind of eye contact? so that literally tells me she's not into me. I mean you can tell if a girl is in to you or not? I don't know maybe she's going through a rough phase in her life? I don't want to get laid with this girl, because we have a lot things in common I would rather have her as my girlfriend and enjoy the sex afterwords. I don't know how to get her to open up to me? She keeps telling me that she's a very private person and that's why she doesn't hang out or share anything personal with anyone besides her family. So how am I suppose to find out how she feels about me? I feel like I should just ask her what she really wants from this friendship? I'm a very confident man I have no trouble talking to women, and I can do without her. I don't want this situation to interfere with my college. I've also told her many times that hey if you ever feel like talking or sharing anything I'm always here to listen!!!! But she has never complied with that? Because she keeps telling me that she's a very private person. I think she may have some anxiety issues or disorders when she hangs out with anyone besides her family because she's not comfortable with them. Okay that's understandable if you're not comfortable around me then please stop telling me that you care about me A LOT!!!! Yesterday was my birthday and she texted me very early in the morning wishing me a happy birthday and also bought a gift. But she has NO TIME FOR ME? hhhahah really WTF? Now what do you have to say about this? I really want to move on from this, but every time I try to she keeps doing things that remind me that may be interested in me more than a friend
follow my advice, get ready for shit tests of plenty, she might cry to get your attention once your frame of comfort has passed and she flakes, ignore it, she might tell you she loves you, ignore it, get ready for a flaky invite to something from her ignore it, she is going to try to do plenty of things to get an emotional reaction from you, be ready and conciously notice what she is doing, do not react,

the frame is, no that is ok, I allready told you how i feel and what i want, take it or leave it, it does not bother me, it does not overly excite me, I want you, but I don't need you, nice to see you, see you later, everything you do, is just the truth, not an expectation, but an expression, no need for anything to happen, but it is out there how you feel and what you want
SunnyHolly,

Thanks again for your feedback.....let me give framing a try and I'll keep you posted on what happens next. I believe she might start to ignore me if that happens should I just leave it as is.....Frankly I don't really care if she does ignore me! What do you say?

Thanks,


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if she never contacts you, don't waste your time, from now on, please please please, DO IT FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF,

MAKE 1 APPROACH A DAY, 1 NEW GIRL A DAY, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,

IF NOT FOR YOU, DO IT FOR ME MAN!!! DO IT FOR ME!!!

just walk up, I KNOW THIS IS REALLY DAMN STRANGE, BUT I THINK YOUR CUTE, IM *ICEMAN* whats your name, (NOW BE NORMAL, AND TALK, SAY ANYTHING, MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU LEAVE, YOU UTTER THE WORDS, WHATS YOUR PHONE NUMBER, WE SHOULD HANG OUT SOME TIME NEXT WEEK)

if you get the number, fucking cool, if not, fucking cool, at least you tried, start texting her that day


GET ON IT SON!!!


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if she never contacts you, don't waste your time, from now on, please please please, DO IT FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF,

MAKE 1 APPROACH A DAY, 1 NEW GIRL A DAY, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,

IF NOT FOR YOU, DO IT FOR ME MAN!!! DO IT FOR ME!!!

just walk up, I KNOW THIS IS REALLY DAMN STRANGE, BUT I THINK YOUR CUTE, IM *ICEMAN* whats your name, (NOW BE NORMAL, AND TALK, SAY ANYTHING, MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU LEAVE, YOU UTTER THE WORDS, WHATS YOUR PHONE NUMBER, WE SHOULD HANG OUT SOME TIME NEXT WEEK)

if you get the number, fucking cool, if not, fucking cool, at least you tried, start texting her that day


GET ON IT SON!!!
Pumpington,

Thanks for your feedback and the great advice really appreciated. I have no trouble approaching, meeting, and closing with girls. But thanks for the reminder anyway. I was just trying to figure out the situation with this broad. But I think I'm done with her I don't have the energy nor the time to keep going along with this crap that she keeps bringing to me. I don't think I'll be contacting her anymore I'm gonna keep everything causal and let her approach me if she still wants to do something about this situation.

Thanks,


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I say....from what I've gathered, you sound like you know what the score is with her......She sounds like alot of headspace for you........Time will always reveal whats going on....I mean,,,,,how much does she really mean to you????.As you know, we are living in abundance :D.

I say shes into you, but other stuffs going on......That is to say ....you are definatly an 'option' in her mind....But for whatever reason, she couldn't care less.

:D

Anytime :D


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fuck her. You are wasting your time. Either you are an option in her mind or not you not make you blind to that you are a man, you are on a pua forum, there are guys who are fucking machine. What is she? Hb8? Fuck. Go and approach an hb9, ops you failed? Approach again, ops again failed? Fuck, approach an hb10, lol you failed again? Haha now approach an hb9 again. If you were learning from your failures and fixing your game, you would get the hb9 this time. Ya got me?

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I say....from what I've gathered, you sound like you know what the score is with her......She sounds like alot of headspace for you........Time will always reveal whats going on....I mean,,,,,how much does she really mean to you????.As you know, we are living in abundance :D.

I say shes into you, but other stuffs going on......That is to say ....you are definatly an 'option' in her mind....But for whatever reason, she couldn't care less.

:D

Anytime :D
Sunnyholly,

Oh yea I definitely know the score ICEMAN- 5 HER- 0 hhhahaha I think I've given her many chances already to come and hang out and open up to me. And I'm pretty much burnt out now. I used to think since we have so many things in common that she would be "THE ONE" for me, but she has a lot of "ISSUES" I mean everybody has issues or problems of their own, but it seems to me that whenever I tried to reach out to her to find out what's going on in her life she would not comply openly. So I knew that she didn't want to share anything about her life with me. I mean I know for a fact that if women start to tell about their lives and personal they're definitely into you because there's a trust that they have built with you. She's very weird in sense that she definitely LIKES ME I know that but she demonstrates in a very disinterested way. She never makes eye contact with me but then she suddenly shows up with a gift for my birthday hhahaa. I mean eye contact and smiling go a long ways with attraction. But she does neither so now I don't feel as attracted to her as I did before. She did use to make eye contact and smile at me a little, but then now I think there's probably something going on in her life that she's probably bothered by. But hey you gotta leave your troubles at home when you come to school and meet your friends? I have appreciated all the advice you have given me so far and I'll keep you posted on what happens next if you're still interested in my crazy disgruntled story hhaha But again I have decided to look pass this since there are so many of YOU GALS out there!!!!!!

Thanks,


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