I figured that I'll just make a new thread for this question. I have been going through the forum to find some information on this but its all conflicting. I've spent the past couple months learning my opening game and I have seen some great results so far. My confidence is as high as its ever been, I can easily get numbers from girls, and my mid-game has seen some great improvement. However, once I connect with a girl at a bar and get her number I am lost on what to do next.

I use to think that the next step was to get a date going. But now I am understanding that the next step is to build comfort, get her use to talking to you, then get the date set-up.

So my question is; how do I go about doing this? Should I wait 3 days like some people say then call her to "see whats up?" and not ask her out on a date? Or should I hit her up the next day and start the comfort building while I am still fresh in her memory? What are some ways to build comfort over the phone?

And finally, WHY IS THIS SHIT SO COMPLICATED lol? I mean I am the type of person who hates wasting time, all of my approaches are direct, I am very upfront and honest with these girls, I use a lot of kino, so I would assume that when I call/text them I should still be direct, cut the bullshit and say I want to take them out on a date. Isn't this more congruent with the way I acted when I first met them?

ah man! You got late. I just decided not to reply any post and do gaming just an hour ago. I wanna see, if i dont reply then how many posts some mumbo jumbo bullshitters reply. I am sure, half of the posts are gonna be left unreplied or may be much more then half. I will get back to you tomorrow

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I personally set up dates the day after. I send a normal to slight teasing text and when she gives me fast reponse I ask for a drink. I do not like to actually call a girl because I hardly know her and odds are great I might get awkward.

And it's only a hassle if you make it a hassle. Just do whatever you feel best with.

Offcourse alot depends on how much comfort you've built. When you think there's too little comfort you might consider calling but I prefer texting.

So then theres nothing wrong with setting up a date right away?

I think that I need to spend less time on this forum and more time doing what works for me. Everytime someone here tells me I did something wrong I start questioning everything, got to smoke one down and just chill lol.

Whats the general consensus here on calling vs texting?

Forget about 3-day rules and all that crap. That's all unnecessary.

Here's how you set up a date: http://www.bosproject.com/how-to-set-up ... watusippin

Basically, you set up the date, and build comfort the days before the actual date. By the time you two get together, she already feels like she knows you for some time. The chances of flaking are also decreased that way.

You may also want to read this too: http://bosproject.com/blog/why-do-women ... uys-part-2

Hope it helps

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Appreciated sir! That is exactly what I needed! So my next question is how do I get a girl more interested through text without coming off as needy? I have been talking to a couple girls that I met at a bar but after a short convo they either stop responding or take forever to get back to me.

When they stop replying it's like totally over. It means you need to make more rapport with the girl. Make her want to hear and see you again.

Having the same issue. After reading some of these pua books, I have started to overthink the way I game women and now second guess myself. What is the best statement/question to say on day 2 to break the ice while at the same time demonstrating higher value?

I am a fan of sunset myself, I try to make it a point to watch them everyday. So yesterday I tried sending a couple text to these two girls I met asking "are you watching this sunset right now??" (it was an exceptionally good one)

It seems like a good 2nd day opener to me, had good responses from both girls.

So question; how should I follow up when the first convo went like this:

HB 8:00AM: Thanks for coming out! It was fun! XO Smile
HB 8:03AM: This is _______ right? Just realized it was from a different number
Me 12:08PM: No this is _______ the ________ gentlemen haha. (I made a word play off her friends name but idk if I should put any personal info in here)
HB 1:50PM: Haha! Glad you made it home safely!
Me 3:19PM: So when are you going to take me out?
HB 10:08PM: I might be free for (local event) on Thursday. Hope you had a nice day!
Me 10:14PM: Whata coincidence, my business in having a party for (local event) and I needed a cute date.

I have had a couple other short text convos with her since then but never brought up the "possible" date. The event is tomorrow night and I would like to see if she is going to be available. If she cant make it then I would like to have enough time to ask someone else instead of calling the back-up a few hours before the event starts.

So how should I go about this without seeming needy? The last time we "talked" was last night and I ended the convo first by not responding. The last convo I told her that I would give her a tour of my exclusive sunset watching spot the next time she is free for a sunset and she responded with "That sounds like fun!".. So maybe I can go off of that?

Do not push the idea of her being your formal date for an event. It might look as if you're taking things a bit too fast. If you already told her, and it didnt go anywhere, then just drop her as an option, call your back-up, and arrange another date with HB on a different occasion.

It looks like you're doing things fine, so keep going that way. But this time, do not go for that even date. Take her to the sunset spot thing better .

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Thanks man, ive been taking the advice you gave on your site and now have 3 different dates set up with 3 different girls.

Going to be a busy weekend lol, but im stoked!

Oh sweet!! I'm glad the stuff I put out there can help you guys.

Hope you have a "busy" weekend haha

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So another question; I hooked up with this girl last night, we didnt have sex, just made out for a bit. But the entire night leading up to getting back to her place and making out we were all over each other.

I took her to a gay bar, (highly recommended if you can handle it). It was a spur of the moment thing, we were walking past it and I decided to go check it out with her. I was able to pull some serious DHV cause I got hit on by every guy there lol. I also had them telling the girl "how hot we looked together". The gay bartender was the best wingman I've ever had. Besides having to go to the bathroom and take the scariest piss of my life haha its a fucking priiime place to take a girl. If the gay guys know your straight but are open to their lifestyle they will help you get laid like no one else haha.

Anyways, back to my question, hooked up with this girl, we definitely connected, she texted me a couple times after I left but I only responded once with "did you lock your door after I left?". So, how long should I wait before I contact her again? She told me last night that she has a lot of studying to do this weekend but that she might be free on Sunday. So whats the best course to get a second date set-up for this Sunday? Shes into horses so I want to take her to the stables to feed and chill with the horses.

Gay bar idea, priceless. I can totally relate to that. Gay bartenders can definitely help you out. It happened to me recently at my favorite bar in NYC. The bartender basically convinced this chick I was the best guy in the world. The result..well...it was a fun first date afterwards .

Now, back to the Sunday date. In your case, it's all about calibration at this point. Do you think she's into you? Has she taken the initiative to text or call after the first date? If you guys have talked, does she seem interested and not bored?

If your answer to all those questions is YES, then inviting her out for the second date should really not be a problem.

Call/text 3 days before the date, and invite her out. It's a Sunday, and she should be free. Women don't usually make plans with friends on Sundays (confirmed) so if you sense she's giving you any resistance, well, you might have to re-evaluate the situation.

Again, if you feel she's into you, it's time to take charge and show her you're confident. If you want to talk to her, you call her and say just that. It's not time to play games. You have to take control.

In my case, if the first date goes well, I become EXTREMELY sexual for the second date. Note that I didn't say vulgar, but at that point, i'm not afraid to show my sexuality. Should you do that? It all depends on your level of confidence.

Don't think too much about it, invite her out, and stop thinking about game. If she likes you enough to go out with you again, she definitely wants you.

Go for it.

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